QQ Mereg AoD

Kreig · Jul 30, 2004

Was out 2nite xping a few alts around DM, when i happened to come across Mereg of AoD (48 Cabalist) afking xping. Spinning on the spot infinitly with Saphire Sim up on Agro killing Neutral con mobs.

Sat there and watched for an hr or so, waiting to see if they did anything what so ever. To which they didnt. First off i thought ok well this is blatant abuse so i thought i'd record it on fraps or something.
Decided not to as this was my first encounter with this, but instead i logged on another char. Ran off and charmed a higher/equal con mob to the Sim, proceeded to buff it up, then i went and followed the Sim with this un-charmed Agro attacking me. Not a problem didnt hurt me to much, eventually the Saphire Sim agroed the fully buffed/eb/absed mob and attacked it.

Saphire Sim died, Mob agroed AFK xping pet owner and subsquently died. Now if this person wasnt afk they surely would have "woken-up" from there afkness and moved/shouted or just done something other than spin on the spot. I even waited at there body till they /auto released.

Yes you got an XP death, serves you right tbh. Next time i catch you afking XPin, or any other person for that mater i will record it and send to RightNow for some kind of hopeful banning/punishment. This sort of abuse shouldnt be tolorated by the community, it may seem harsh but its lame for all the "normal" ppl who have to xp genuinely.

I hope AoD doesnt condone these kinds of activities.

/rant off

P.S. Couldnt give a flying fuck from all the QQer's who may or not flame, never can tell as there logic (lack of) preceeds them.

bottler · Jul 30, 2004

how can he afk xp'ping?

Kreig · Jul 30, 2004

bottler said:
how can he afk xp'ping?

Pet on agro mode in Neutral con mobs > Lifetap Sim, rigged kebo so ur constantly moving on spot so's not to afk (Enter/or talk key pressed then arrow key or directional key held down). Go bed or watch tv etc come back with more xp than started with.

Its even easier with a BD u just stick to one of ur pets in a certain fashion and u cant ld, whilst bone commander kills all and gets heal by bone healers.

Its not allowed tho

NeonBlue · Jul 30, 2004

tut tut naughty cabby !!

sounds like he might be using that script whats out that allows u afk xping....infact sounds exactly like it

theres no excuse for this ....and from what uve described he wont even realise hes dead until he wakes up in the morning !!

personally i would do everything i could to get the fecker banned!

Jorge Regula · Jul 30, 2004

Mentioned a caba spinning on the spot AFK and someone on irc pointed me to this thread.

Mareg the AFK level 48 cabalist of AoD spinning on the spot for 5+ hours in Wearyall

Thundercat · Jul 30, 2004

Kreig said:
Spinning on the spot infinitly with Saphire Sim up on Agro killing Neutral con mobs.

Do you mean running in a circle so he woudn't drop the connection?

If so the I really think you should do whats the right thing... contact GOA in some form ( GM or rightnow ) with screenshots or fraps recordings. Just getting the Cabby killed (XP loss worth of what? 15 minutes?) wont solve anything.

As for posting it here I don't know what that helps either? If you have no proof what so ever then why bring it in here and ask if AoD approves that. I could claim some guy that annoyed me did this and hope he would get some trouble from it (not saying that you made it up thou).

Well not that I've started I have one question related to cheating: How do people happen to know what's the latest macro that cheaters are using? Are some of us just browsing around so they know whats happening? Personally I don't know how you make macros, radars or anything else that's used for cheating work in this game, but quite many seem to know that it really scares me. I just can't bring myself to really trust the guys that tell us "it works this and this way and you can get it from here, really easy, but no I'm not using it".

Is macroing and radars just too common these days and people don't care? If we all just ignore the cheaters or tease them abit (get them xp killed, oh my) then it's our own loss. We're letting them do it and that's like diggin our own grave.

Report him and let GOA do their job.

Uberlama · Jul 30, 2004

heh lol do what u want, just one little thing.

If you would look around more in alb, or in anywhere imo, u would see that loads, and loads of ppl are doing this. As well you should report every afk-crafting ppl ? which means at least half of the daoc population :>

well nm still morning here, and do whatever you want if you feel its right, jsut think about it

/edit , before you say I didnt mean its alright he can do it , because no its against the rules, and I am sure it will not happen again.

Cirandi · Jul 30, 2004

Uberlama said:
heh lol do what u want, just one little thing.

If you would look around more in alb, or in anywhere imo, u would see that loads, and loads of ppl are doing this. As well you should report every afk-crafting ppl ? which means at least half of the daoc population :>

well nm still morning here, and do whatever you want if you feel its right, jsut think about it

So loads are cheating and therefore it's ok?

Old discussion, sorry for bringing it up really but i couldn't help myself

Interesting too that this comes from a guild officer. I guess there's no point in reporting cheaters/abusers to you guys then? Since many are cheating/abusing others?

Uberlama · Jul 30, 2004

Cirandi said:
So loads are cheating and therefore it's ok?

Old discussion, sorry for bringing it up really but i couldn't help myself

Interesting too that this comes from a guild officer. I guess there's no point in reporting cheaters/abusers to you guys then? Since many are cheating/abusing others?

lol did I say this ? no.. As I corrected myself just before your post I know its against the rules and no its not right, and we will tell him not to do this again.

I just wanted to say that many ppl doing this (not in aod but in the realm, every realm, ever server I m sure) to make macro and let it to craft or something, I have seen it from many ppl in albion thats why I say it.

Anyway, it is still against the daoc rules, and not allowed to use, so if you see him doing this again , just report on Rightnow, but I am sure it wont happen again, we will inform Mereg about this, I think he didnt know that its illegal.

Simba · Jul 30, 2004

I hope you all will be Very Happy If he gets banned.

If you success you will get banned an rr8+ armsman who just wanted a second char, and trust me i know him very well, he is one of the clean players from rvr and thats the most i respect.

Oh and btw if anyone used macros to raise trade skills, that isn't the same thing ? Because if so, then if he gets banned, then 1/2 of the servers deserves a ban too.

Cirandi · Jul 30, 2004

Uberlama said:
lol did I say this ? no.. As I corrected myself just before your post I know its against the rules and no its not right, and we will tell him not to do this again.

I just wanted to say that many ppl doing this (not in aod but in the realm, every realm, ever server I m sure) to make macro and let it to craft or something, I have seen it from many ppl in albion thats why I say it.

Anyway, it is still against the daoc rules, and not allowed to use, so if you see him doing this again , just report on Rightnow, but I am sure it wont happen again, we will inform Mereg about this, I think he didnt know that its illegal.

Ok, you must've edited it whiler i was typing my post

Nice to see that it wasn't as bad as i feared :cheers:

Simba · Jul 30, 2004

Cirandi said:
So loads are cheating and therefore it's ok?

Old discussion, sorry for bringing it up really but i couldn't help myself

Interesting too that this comes from a guild officer. I guess there's no point in reporting cheaters/abusers to you guys then? Since many are cheating/abusing others?

I think the really cheaters are those who use external programs to abuse other players game, and not a level48 cabalist who just put some weight on the left arrow...

Smurflord · Jul 30, 2004

Ok afk exping is bad, agreed.
But to deliberately exp kill someone is just griefing plain and simple, regardless of what they were doing.

So if they ban him, they should ban Kreig too imo.

Thundercat · Jul 30, 2004

Simba said:
I hope you all will be Very Happy If he gets banned.

If you success you will get banned an rr8+ armsman who just wanted a second char, and trust me i know him very well, he is one of the clean players from rvr and thats the most i respect.

Oh and btw if anyone used macros to raise trade skills, that isn't the same thing ? Because if so, then if he gets banned, then 1/2 of the servers deserves a ban too.

I think using macros to raise trade skill IS the same thing then using macros to level up. Don't you? So if nessessary then yes, half of the server should be banned. It's boring to craft but who's forcing you to?

Now how the heck did he level his Armsman up and to RR8+ if he can't level a Cabby without cheating? It's not that hard. Nearly everyone thinks it's boring but thats a big part of the game. Get someone to PL you if you can't be bothered to level. Killing blue/greens when afk ain't the fastest way to do it anyway.

And what the heck his RR got anything to do with it anyway? Do you mean that when people are higher RR they can do it because they know how to play the game?

Speeedy · Jul 30, 2004

I though exp killing fellow albs was also against the CoC ?

So ban both of them? :flame:

Sobek · Jul 30, 2004

Kreig said:
Was out 2nite xping a few alts around DM, when i happened to come across Mereg of AoD (48 Cabalist) afking xping. Spinning on the spot infinitly with Saphire Sim up on Agro killing Neutral con mobs.

Sat there and watched for an hr or so, waiting to see if they did anything what so ever. To which they didnt. First off i thought ok well this is blatant abuse so i thought i'd record it on fraps or something.
Decided not to as this was my first encounter with this, but instead i logged on another char. Ran off and charmed a higher/equal con mob to the Sim, proceeded to buff it up, then i went and followed the Sim with this un-charmed Agro attacking me. Not a problem didnt hurt me to much, eventually the Saphire Sim agroed the fully buffed/eb/absed mob and attacked it.

Saphire Sim died, Mob agroed AFK xping pet owner and subsquently died. Now if this person wasnt afk they surely would have "woken-up" from there afkness and moved/shouted or just done something other than spin on the spot. I even waited at there body till they /auto released.

Yes you got an XP death, serves you right tbh. Next time i catch you afking XPin, or any other person for that mater i will record it and send to RightNow for some kind of hopeful banning/punishment. This sort of abuse shouldnt be tolorated by the community, it may seem harsh but its lame for all the "normal" ppl who have to xp genuinely.

I hope AoD doesnt condone these kinds of activities.

/rant off

P.S. Couldnt give a flying fuck from all the QQer's who may or not flame, never can tell as there logic (lack of) preceeds them.

IM SO HAPPY THAT WE GOT PEOPLE LIKE YOU KREIG! MAKES PRYDWEN A BETTER PLACE! WHERE CAN I SIGN UP TO ME AN INGAME TELL TALE? DO YOU GO AROUND IRL AND LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO DOES SOMETHING WRONG? THEN REPORT THEM TO THE POLICE?

Really, instead of posting here you should have gone to a officer/gm from AoD, posting this just courses bad atmosphere, and giving him exp dead is against CoC, sooooooooo mate, Dont throw rocks when your living in a glass house.

Uliea · Jul 30, 2004

How did he give him an exp death? He ran past the cabbys pet with aggro and the pet pulled it. The Cabby obviously wanted his pet to aggro the mob. Isn't also against the CoC to pull a mob from another player like the Cabbys pet did?

Calgacus · Jul 30, 2004

I have to say by getting him an xp death Kreig let him off lightly. He should thank Kreig for not getting him banned and giving him a second chance. Also, WE should thank Kreig for posting this here so the community know that this guy is on his second chance. It's simply not fair on the rest of the players who obey the laws and the CoC. He's making mugs out of us by getting away with this.

As for him having a high RR amrsman......come on, what a lame argument. You say he's an experienced high RR player so shouldn't be banned, but yet he doesn't know that afk xping isn't allowed??

Just think if you logged on early to get a spot to camp for a couple of hours xping, then when you get there there's some cheat in his bed asleep while his char gathers up all the xp in the area. No way would I put up with that. It's cheating, it's lazy and it's not fair on the rest of us.

Also, I have to say I've never ever seen anyone doing this sort of thing in alb pryd. I'm sure it must go on but it must be a small minority of people (as usual) who think the 'rules' don't apply to them.

Arus Canus · Jul 30, 2004

Hehe.

Ever wondered why crafters are so quiet? :touch:

Calgacus · Jul 30, 2004

Yep, crafters are quiet because it's so boring. The crafters in my guild have a telly beside the comp and also alt tab while doing something else. But they are physically pressing the keys and aren't afk using macros. If people are using macros for crafting then yes they should be banned also.

Arus Canus · Jul 30, 2004

Calgacus said:
I have to say by getting him an xp death Kreig let him off lightly. He should thank Kreig for not getting him banned and giving him a second chance. Also, WE should thank Kreig for posting this here so the community know that this guy is on his second chance. It's simply not fair on the rest of the players who obey the laws and the CoC. He's making mugs out of us by getting away with this.

As for him having a high RR amrsman......come on, what a lame argument. You say he's an experienced high RR player so shouldn't be banned, but yet he doesn't know that afk xping isn't allowed??

Just think if you logged on early to get a spot to camp for a couple of hours xping, then when you get there there's some cheat in his bed asleep while his char gathers up all the xp in the area. No way would I put up with that. It's cheating, it's lazy and it's not fair on the rest of us.

Exactly how does his "aFk" xp session effect you? ... cant really see hes been bothering anyone.
I play cabalist to, i could go afk with pet on aggressive as well and come back later with little more xp. Realised that after sitting in Castle Sauvage for 2½ hours afk without my client shutting down. Usualy it does that after 30mins or so.

Gorryk · Jul 30, 2004

Bah.. a cheat is a cheat.... The minute you start saying one cheat is less severe than another, you start to give people justifications for using them all... Krieg did not release an aggro mob next to the cabby to xp kill him. He released a neutral mob next to the cabby which would have done nothing, if the cabby was not afk with pet on aggro mode... therefore it's the cabalists fault as his pet pulled the mob...

I personally think afk macroers have done more harm to daoc than radar. They've ruined the economy with trinketting, and meant crafting items is worthless, as they can alwasys undercut you as they don't need payment for the time they put in (as it's essentially none for them). I couldn't care less if he got banned tbh...

Uberlama · Jul 30, 2004

lol getting funny this thred.

Anyway. We talked to Mereg and it turned up that he didnt use any third party program at all, jsut left a cup on the left arrow. I am not sure and correct me if Im wrong but this isnt agains the CoC.

So as this is what happened u can close this thread and ask for sorry as Mereg didnt use any illegal program nor did anything that is cheating, as Simba said before me, Mereg is one of the few , still "clean" players who never used any 3rd party program.

So Kerig go and find real cheaters and dont post such thing on FH to destroy someons reputation like Warbar/Mereg when u r not sure nor have any proof.

Cirandi · Jul 30, 2004

Uberlama said:
lol getting funny this thred.

Anyway. We talked to Mereg and it turned up that he didnt use any third party program at all, jsut left a cup on the left arrow. I am not sure and correct me if Im wrong but this isnt agains the CoC.

So as this is what happened u can close this thread and ask for sorry as Mereg didnt use any illegal program nor did anything that is cheating, as Simba said before me, Mereg is one of the few , still "clean" players who never used any 3rd party program.

So Kerig go and find real cheaters and dont post such thing on FH to destroy someons reputation like Warbar/Mereg when u r not sure nor have any proof.

Afk xping is illegal and ppl have been banned for it.

Arus Canus · Jul 30, 2004

Gorryk said:
Bah.. a cheat is a cheat.... The minute you start saying one cheat is less severe than another, you start to give people justifications for using them all... Krieg did not release an aggro mob next to the cabby to xp kill him. He released a neutral mob next to the cabby which would have done nothing, if the cabby was not afk with pet on aggro mode... therefore it's the cabalists fault as his pet pulled the mob...

I personally think afk macroers have done more harm to daoc than radar. They've ruined the economy with trinketting, and meant crafting items is worthless, as they can alwasys undercut you as they don't need payment for the time they put in (as it's essentially none for them). I couldn't care less if he got banned tbh...

Jumping to conclusion are we... already branded him as cheater even tho he is not? ALB STYLE!

Uliea · Jul 30, 2004

Uberlama said:
So Kerig go and find real cheaters and dont post such thing on FH to destroy someons reputation like Warbar/Mereg when u r not sure nor have any proof.

Kreig never said Mereg was using a third party program he said he was afk exp'ing which i'm sure is still against the CoC, as i think i've heard about BD's getting warnings about it. Anyway it's still a lame thing to do no matter what, as a high realm rank player Mereg should know that it really isn't in the "spirit of the game".

Thundercat · Jul 30, 2004

Uberlama said:
lol getting funny this thred.

Anyway. We talked to Mereg and it turned up that he didnt use any third party program at all, jsut left a cup on the left arrow. I am not sure and correct me if Im wrong but this isnt agains the CoC.

So as this is what happened u can close this thread and ask for sorry as Mereg didnt use any illegal program nor did anything that is cheating, as Simba said before me, Mereg is one of the few , still "clean" players who never used any 3rd party program.

So Kerig go and find real cheaters and dont post such thing on FH to destroy someons reputation like Warbar/Mereg when u r not sure nor have any proof.

I'm pretty sure people got banned before because of afk exping.

You're not there controlling your pet and not even near the computer to do something if things go wrong.

Good to hear that no macros were involved but the method he used ain't much better.

afaik GOA and Mythic have told us: don't do it like that.

Miff · Jul 30, 2004

If he is afk exping , it is 100% clear that he is using macro programs. If he did use macro program to do this GOA should and probably will check logs.

When GOA banned Juj for afk crafting a few days ago , I think this deserves a ban just as much. In my opinion GOA check logs and if he is cheating then give same punishiment as to juj, or unban Juj.

Chrystina · Jul 30, 2004

Sobek said:
Really, instead of posting here you should have gone to a officer/gm from AoD, posting this just courses bad atmosphere, and giving him exp dead is against CoC, sooooooooo mate, Dont throw rocks when your living in a glass house.

lol irl tbh ... look at Uberlama's comments here (he's AoD officer) and make up your mind what they would have done if he was just reported to an officer: NOTHING :twak:

Tafaya Anathas · Jul 30, 2004

Gorryk said:
The minute you start saying one cheat is less severe than another, you start to give people justifications for using them all...

Gorryk said:
I personally think afk macroers have done more harm to daoc than radar.

*cough* *cough*

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