Zeppelin .. my oh my

[od_immortalis]

Give Screenshots! Xd!

 

[blejs]

You left a random group, saying something like: I can't play under these conditions.
.

Havent read whole thread yet, but random groups sucks often if u dont play atleast with random ppl you know.

Not fun to get owned by other really.
So i understand a thing like that.
But should leave under a nice way to try not look down on others.

 

[Grayh]

I agree, when the screenshots are up you will see one of them says that they saw the group but ignored them. Yet he claimed he didn't see them, like you said some things are perception, example: who was camping first etc... but on the "debate" he had with me he clearly says that he didn't see the others, yet on the screenshot he says he did. I doubt that is a perception issue.

Would absolutely love to see a screenie of the other group sitting at battler before we came there, the screenie you are referring to shows our group fighting battler and then the other group joins in and kills the add that came, which was very nice of them, our alliance would never attack an artifact (or any other campwhathaveyou) that some other group is camping/attacking, no matter how small or big the guild in question is, and that's fact. Anybody in our alliance doing so (deliberatly) would find themselves without a guild before you could spell mama.

With you calling me a liar in almost every response I get from you, trying to explain that we (I) never saw that other group on our way to the site was what really made me post this, I mean geesh, how in all that's holy can you actually know what I saw or didn't see ?!

Like some other people has posted here earlier, maybe you need to work on your communication skills (and by that I don't mean spelling) and take a deep breath before launching yourself into namecalling-frenzy, has it ever occured to you that you might not actually be right every single time, and like in this case we honestly didn't see that other group (it is rather dark in ashen at night) coming there?

Had we come to the battler prior to them engaging/camping the battler this would have happened,
a) we ask them if we can join them and slay the battler, had they said yes we would have been all praise etc, had they said no then fine, they deserve the right to say so
b) we spank our raidleader for not checking if ashen isle-zone was empty before moving in and we move off to do some other artifact


If anybody from the other group/guild reads this, know that I'm truly sorry if you feel that we "took" that arti/camp from you, it was an honest mistake if you were there camping it before we came, feel free to send a tell to any in our alliance and I'm sure they'd be glad to help out, since it's common knowledge that we're the most friendly alliance in all of prydwen ... atleast that's what our leaders tells us every day

 

[polgra]

Amen

 

[Aremeriel]

Would absolutely love to see a screenie of the other group sitting at battler before we came there,

Do you usually take sshots when sitting at a mob before you attack it, just in case someone else engages it while you're talking tactics? No offense meant. I just think it's highly unlikely that they have a sshot of themselves sitting at battler BEFORE anything happened.

Had we come to the battler prior to them engaging/camping the battler this would have happened,
a) we ask them if we can join them and slay the battler, had they said yes we would have been all praise etc, had they said no then fine, they deserve the right to say so
b) we spank our raidleader for not checking if ashen isle-zone was empty before moving in and we move off to do some other artifact

Going by what's been said here... You DID come prior to them engaging, otherwise it would be no question about whether you stole the mob or not. If you had come prior to them camping, this thread would never have been made, as you would then have engaged the mob and died even faster than you did (cause none to kill add) and this not an issue at all, since they hadn't been there. No offense here either, but when saying other people should improve communication skills, maybe you should reread before posting? Your first sentence in that quote is quite contradicting really.

a) To keep all possibilities open here:

1. Let's say they were already there camping and you didn't see them: Why then think "tough luck guys" as you stated you did in your first post when you DID see them? Wouldn't it have been better to join forces anyways, since you didn't manage to kill the mob when you tried? I know, you couldn't know you'd get killed beforehand though...
2. Let's say they were already there camping and you DID see them, then you're contradicting yourself again....
3. Let's say they came after you. Then my #1 point would apply again..

b) Did you check the zone first?

 

[Haroat]

was said earlier they did /who ashen, and wether or not it was their camp or not, a mob IS NOT camped until the first blow is given, simple as that, therefore grayh's grp got the rights to it. as for inca's reply to it.... well, he wasnt there he doesnt know all the facts so he was in no position to call anyone a liar about it tbh, and inca, before you try to insult someone.. try to think of something theyve _actually_ done.. and not making some shit up about them kk?

 

[Aremeriel]

was said earlier they did /who ashen, and wether or not it was their camp or not, a mob IS NOT camped until the first blow is given, simple as that, therefore grayh's grp got the rights to it.

Aye.. Awol and his grp have said in this thread they did a /who ashen before going in there, but not Grayh and his grp as far as I can see. And feel free to prove me wrong (with post # if you can find where Grayh says they did a /who first).

No offense, Haroat. About when a mob can be considered camped has been discussed here a million (+-) times. Most agree on a grp being at mob first has rights to it. I know this is not GOA's stand though. But, what's wrong with some common courtesy and actually letting people who are at a mob first get it? And Grayh himself says that if GW had been there first and SU had seen them, they'd have considered Battler as belonging to GW cause they'd ask to join, but it was GW's right to say no. So, you thinking that Grayh's grp had all the rights to the mob is fine by me, but apparently Grayh doesn't think along the same lines as you when it comes to camping a mob.

But you're also saying that if you have cleared the Moon Island apart from last mob (the one that counts), I can rush in and kill it before you hit it, cause

a mob IS NOT camped until the first blow is given

 

[Tasslehoff]

Havent read whole thread yet, but random groups sucks often if u dont play atleast with random ppl you know.

Not fun to get owned by other really.
So i understand a thing like that.
But should leave under a nice way to try not look down on others.

The problem wasen't leaving the group, it was the way he did it.

And I wrote it because he was telling people about the other being arrogance and such, which after that episode I'm considering him. But nevermind, shouldn't have posted it.

 

[Runimatrix]

Toa

Seeing all these hate n spam threads i have realised that ToA has broguth out the very worst in people, ofcourse b4 ToA there were sum jerks but since ToA came out evry1 is flaming each other for nothing. Its clear they didnt c the group camping the artifact(if they even were) and it was an honest mistake, they died on it so they didnt get it anyway and then u flame them looking for a fight when they have already said it was an honest mistake. Yes ToA brings out the worst in people but it also brings out the best and so far i havent seen many people beeing to good. You claim to be defending smaller guilds from bigger guilds, thats bullshit you just got involved in something that didnt concern you so imo you should stop trying to blame others and try to become a nicer player.

 

[Grayh]

Do you usually take sshots when sitting at a mob before you attack it, just in case someone else engages it while you're talking tactics? No offense meant. I just think it's highly unlikely that they have a sshot of themselves sitting at battler BEFORE anything happened.

It was Inca who said that there would be screenshots available, showing that we clearly overran them on the way to battler, I never demanded any screenies from the other group

a) To keep all possibilities open here:

Let's say they were already there camping and you didn't see them: Why then think "tough luck guys" as you stated you did in your first post when you DID see them? Wouldn't it have been better to join forces anyways, since you didn't manage to kill the mob when you tried? I know, you couldn't know you'd get killed beforehand though...

"tough luck guys" wasn't ment as a remark in any way, just a figure of speech. Regarding to not joining forces, we never got a question from them asking if they could hook up (on the other hand, if they thought that they had firstbids on the battler why should they) before the battle began and secondly we were on a hunt for one of the members of the alliance, the rest of us on the raid would only lotto for the loot, not the battler itself, so I'm not sure if they'd want to join up knowing that.

b) Did you check the zone first?

Hope so, wasn't running the raid so I'm not sure.

Want to clarify once again that if the other group felt that we stole that opportunity to kill the battler, I'm very sorry, for it was never our intention to do so, neither will any of our alliance. If you guys (other group) have a hard time finding enough people to do that encounter, feel free to pm me and I'll most likely help out, don't want you to have any hard feelings against us, we're all on the same side after all.

 

[Rayko]

hmm, only read the first post and tbh I'm not surprised to find such a post... had more trouble with this person earlier

 

[aw0l]

Theres so many things about this that are annoying me now, at the time someone stole our mob .. and it was ah well never mind, we was annoyed but wasnt gonna take it further, now after seeing the way the people acted, im really pissed with it all.

We arrive, on the way our resident afk specialist dies, hes afk and it takes us ages to get him back up, we get there first thing we do as i get over the bridge is /who ashen. Only us great .. we run round the mob see if theres any anon afk bb/greys camping. We go to the usual pulling spot from it, from that point 15-20 mins later we see a small grp cross the bridge CLEARLY your not telling me they didnt look towards the hill where battler is as they crossed, weird thing .. they didnt do a /who ashen, they didnt look up to the hill, they didnt run round checking for camps, they did run past us and run up the hill at a point where the adds will always attack, hmm this is weird ah well perhaps they have never done it before, so we trott over, we are a friendly guild and was gonna suggest they join us equal rolls the lot. As we go over it triggers them into action. I say to them whats the score and they say that they took a while to get here. Why the hell would they say that unless they know we was already there it makes no sense !! ( and btw im on my way to GOV camp all day tomorrow so no one kill danos)

If we had just turned up, come accross the bridge and ran upto them, would they normally say .. oh it took us ages to get here, huh but your already here? lol anyways perhaps they are not uk residents and there english isnt so good, so why didnt we get an invite for at least enc, no the *friendliest* guild on the server prefered to have a go at battler in a straight out fight without using any of the methods and got wasted real fast, oh and guess wot .. it was my fault ! i agroed battler with my healing field and thats why he minced them... great ... i dont flame i dont cause agro but imo these guys took ages getting there... got annoyed .. went out their way to avoid talking to us .. got greedy and died ... then flamed a guy who tried helping us out

sorry for the long post and sorry for the whines its not me really it isnt

 

[Aremeriel]

Just remembered something that buggered me before I wrote my first post here, but had work to do in the meantime, so forgot it....

We arrived at the battler-site after many hardships getting there, Kling obviously left his drivers license at home, and when we finally did get there the battler was popped as we had expected, since we'd had been informed from another member of our alliance that The Battler had just popped once more, 10-15mins later we arrived at the scene

We died on the way here 20 mins ago, now we finally got him.

Tjockis - fastpaced healingdude

Tjockis was on the Dragon Raid yesterday. Is Tjockis and Klang on different accounts?
If not, then how could you have had time to switch char, run towards Battler, getting trouble and then attacking Battler 20 mins later, when I first heard about this incident right after hammer loot lotto on Dragon Raid, which was NOT 20 mins after Gjalpi was dead? And that was even after GW group had tried to kill Battler even after his size increase. I'm just wondering...


Aye. Inca said screenshots would prove they were there before you, but you were the one talking about screenshots of them sitting there before you even came along. And I have to agree with Awol on the convo going on in the sshot.

And no, Awol. I don't think they're UK residents. Iirc, Svea Ulvar is/was all Swedish?

 

[aw0l]

I didnt mean that as abuse or anything we have a lot of scandanavian types in our guild and most speak waaaay better engrish than me I was just saying perhaps they didnt understand, making excuses up on their behalf.

sry

 

[Slatelighttone]

This was my Grey Wolves guild group that was camping battler before Kling's group turned up.

I have a screenshot of a pm from Anelia (part of Kling's group) who apologies for stealing the mob, and says that she did tell (her) Kling's group that there was another group waiting but was ignored.

I will post the s/shot later when I get home from work. People need to have more respect for each other in this game, and pointless flaming of each other gets us nowhere. The very least that should have happened is that the two groups should have joined forces, as it was Kling's group was pwned and Battler became impossible for everyone. Hopefully lessons will be learnt.

Slatelighttone
50 Skald
Realm Rank 3 and a bit
ML4
Co-GM Grey Wolves

 

[Darksword]

>pulls out a AK> bitch please!


<screws over the diary room chair> lets b honest, AHMED ROCKS!!!

omg y dont we just settle this mess and go do battler as 2fg + and roll for it?

ok so it may have been camped it may not, and tbh aremerials right, goas official stance on campings crap i mean, u sit at SoM for xx hrs only for 1fg just run past u and take it, fair? oh and i didnt read all of the pages = too long winded for me but i vote for King Leuan (p.s. dude yer ranger aint even 50 yet (dont worry ill lvl him soon just need 1 more 50 on mid and ani 2 50 then the task of 11days PL will comence)

 

[Reebs]

i hate all noobs irl

Remem for president.

Two other things that crossed my mind.

First, I do not see why Inca decided to pm and ask things since he was not there. I understand that he wants to help his friends but I would prefer letting my friends pm Grayh instead.

Second, Leuan you should learn how to spell.

"Those who dream and walk, dream of wise and well, and tred carefuly, for you will be treding on my dreams."

TREAD, TROD, TRODDEN is the correct grammar and it is spelled CAREFULLY. So please stop trying to be some smartass when you spell like shit. Go back to school.

Leuan..good game you nugget

 

[Darksword]

Do you usually take sshots when sitting at a mob before you attack it, just in case someone else engages it while you're talking tactics? No offense meant. I just think it's highly unlikely that they have a sshot of themselves sitting at battler BEFORE anything happened.

/blush i take screenies of mobs quiet a bit actually, i took 1 of the dragon last night coz she looked so proud and happy i dunno how 2 post screenies though :< <tard>

 

[Aremeriel]

I didnt mean that as abuse or anything we have a lot of scandanavian types in our guild and most speak waaaay better engrish than me I was just saying perhaps they didnt understand, making excuses up on their behalf.

I didn't think you did, AND I didn't mean my reply as offensive either..

Even though all Norwegians know that Swedes aren't the smartest out there... (No offense or anything.. This was meant to be "funny", as we tell jokes about Swedes, and they tell the same ones about us)

<------ See location.. hehe


LOL Dark.. I've taken some screenies of dragon too, but I don't take screenies of myself before I kill all mobs that are camp-worthy..

And to post screenie: On bottom of page when you reply there's a button called manage attachments.. could try that... Or, if you want a fullsized screenie in your post, you'll have to have somewhere to upload it first, and then using (img)URL to piccie(/img) with [] instead of ()

 

[Lepet]

bla bla bla bla zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

to avoid more probs, on battler encounter, i will run a suicide run on him if he's up tonight, goal is to get 4-5 fg's to suicide on him, so noone ever never more will do this boringggggggggggggggggggg tread's

 

[Darksword]

he has a max lvl :touch:

 

[Leuan]

Leuan you should learn how to spell.

if u could read u would read my later thred where i said i cant spell eaither, also im still in school so 1-0

 

[Reebs]

if u could read u would read my later thred where i said i cant spell eaither, also im still in school so 1-0

1. I can read, really good as I was able to figure out what nonsense you tried to write.

2. Another thred? (thread) you don't mean another post that you made

3. if you continue to spell like that, you will probably be in school for a very long time.

game over, Reebs 5 and Leuan 0, point was never supposed to be there.

 

[Grayh]

Just remembered something that buggered me before I wrote my first post here, but had work to do in the meantime, so forgot it....
Tjockis was on the Dragon Raid yesterday. Is Tjockis and Klang on different accounts?
If not, then how could you have had time to switch char, run towards Battler, getting trouble and then attacking Battler 20 mins later, when I first heard about this incident right after hammer loot lotto on Dragon Raid, which was NOT 20 mins after Gjalpi was dead? And that was even after GW group had tried to kill Battler even after his size increase. I'm just wondering...

Yup two different accounts, can only have that many chars on one account if you want bg-chars/bb's as well .

This was my Grey Wolves guild group that was camping battler before Kling's group turned up.

I have a screenshot of a pm from Anelia (part of Kling's group) who apologies for stealing the mob, and says that she did tell (her) Kling's group that there was another group waiting but was ignored.

Can't recall seeing one of those messages, find it quite weird that we proceeded with encounter if one of our members had spotted you and told the rest of the group that is was camped already.

I've checked it up and Aneliah confirmed that she saw GW standing by the trees somewhere when we arrived, but she weren't able to tell the group until we had pulled/started killing (or dying to in this case ) the battler. She's not sure that she sent it to the group tho, might have been a misstell to /gu instead, cause afterwards she thought it was a bit strange that nobody responded either.

So it seems that GW were there before us and are now pissed off with good reason, our only defence is that we (except for one person, who weren't able to alert rest of the group) noticed you until it was too late. Once again, sorry that it went as it did fellas, will spank Kling (raidleader and bruh) severely next time our paths cross, for not checking the camp better

 

[Slatelighttone]

Grayh, thanks for your apologies, it takes guts to come back onto the board and apologise. As Awol posted we (Grey Wolves) weren't going to take this any further, sometimes things like this just happens.

 

[aw0l]

So it seems that GW were there before us and are now pissed off with good reason

No not at all, we had took the thing in our stride, annoyed possibly, pissed off .. no not at all.. your guild/group got no abuse or pms from any of our guild complaining.

The only thing that pissed me off was the attack on zep on these forums for sticking up for us, otherwise this would have just passed as another small guild being tredden on . I know myself and slate would have totally let it pass otherwise. Being made out to be a liar did annoy me a little but im willing to forget it now, perhaps you should apoligise to zep rather than us?

 

[Inca]

Likewise i apologise for the tone i pm'd in. Its not a good enough reason to say i hate this happening and since TOA have seen it to much, of course there will still be genuine mistakes and much like Grey Wolves i had no intentions of taking this further.

 

[Kraben]

Or Inca should appoligy to Grayh as its now proven that it were in fact a mistake that they took Battler? Continuesly calling a person a liar and bringing his/her guild in to miscredit arent a good thing.. Grayh reacted to Inca's pm's as how he had thought the scenario had come down.

 

[Kedaran]

Haven't even bothered to read the post but I've known Grayh for a long time and support him..
I belive it was a honest mistake and nothing more..
And if anyone is a liar I don't belive it's Grayh..






-K.

 

[aw0l]

Oh i didnt realise we could call character witnesses