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DaGaffer

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Skip to the Bronys bit for some interesting background on the Indianapolis shooter.


This fight was pretty much over after GamerGate. The incels won. The fact that mainstream opinion ignores this is a huge problem for society.
there is simply no place for young men to socialize online that isn’t full of extremists.

I don't really believe that. Sounds more like hyperbole than evidenced facts.
 

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there is simply no place for young men to socialize online that isn’t full of extremists.

I don't really believe that. Sounds more like hyperbole than evidenced facts.
Hyperbole maybe but large communities of young men online are almost always full of misogyny. Try visiting some. Scary shit.
 

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Hyperbole maybe but large communities of young men online are almost always full of misogyny. Try visiting some. Scary shit.
The caveat to the statement in the article should have been " there is simply no place for young men to socialize online wihout young women that isn’t full of extremists.

There are plenty of places where young men are that aren't automatically hotbeds of incels and terrorists. The reality is that there are historically two male dominated subcultures, games and sports (with comic books a smaller niche) and while aspects of all three have developed a misogynist subculture (or indeed always had one) they are also developing entirely new (and enormous) inclusive subcultures where "girls are allowed" but amazingly boys and men can still socialise with each other within those groups.

Any sub-culture that is explicitly excluding women is by definition going to be a misogynist group, but also by definition, they're not the default place for young men to congregate anyway, because most boys don't think girls are icky or evil bitches. Incel stuff and "Bronys" (Jesus wept) are not mainstream, and not actually that large in real terms;
 

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Gaming culture dominates the internet life of young males though and females get pushed off some of those platforms due to the culture. Sure, they can end up on friendlier platforms but that just reinforces the trend that some platforms become shorn of female voices to counter-act the drift to extremes.

Outside of gaming it's been noted for a while that there's a steady drift of men from the 'intellectual dark web' to 'manosphere' to bitter nasty fuck-ups.

Manosphere: The “manosphere” is getting more toxic as angry men join the incels
 

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I'm still struggling with the concept of actual grown men being obsessed with an infant's toy, let alone that half of them appear to be white supremacists. Googling it is one seriously dark hole.
 

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So, surprised nobody has posed about this. But just received the vid on WhatsApp and it's fucking weird.


But this:
"Remarkably the taxi driver escaped from the cab."
When? Did he jump out? Did he kindly hand the steering wheel to the "terrorist" so they could drive and come to a halt?

And who parks up nicely when they're going to detonate a bomb in a car?
 

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I heard that he was in the motor when the bomb went off but somehow just survived it. Ex soldier so maybe knew what to do to give himself the highest chance of survival?
 

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I heard that he was in the motor when the bomb went off but somehow just survived it. Ex soldier so maybe knew what to do to give himself the highest chance of survival?
Wowzers. I had a 4th look. And could see him this time.

How could I miss that??!

Still, it's weird as fuck. He must have been sat right next to the bomber. How can a bomb go off right next to you and not kill you? Did he make it out of fireworks?
 

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Depends on whether it was made properly, it might not have had much explosive force and just been incendiary. If it was explosive then the doors and roof would be blown off the car
 

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Just seen the vid, failed explosive. Very lucky taxi driver and lucky people at the hospital.
 

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I just sawed a fing saying that the taxi driver intentionally locked him in when he realised.

source: Facebook :sneaky:
 

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Ha, good on him if true, probably saved lives.
 

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The covid screen they use in taxis must have shielded him from the blast... AntiVaxxers will be pissed.

It didn't take long for social media to be rife with fear mongering though.
"Had a woman in taxi pretending to be pregnant wearing a bomb vest.
Potentially another one in Garston train station.
Now another one at the Liverpool Christmas market"
 

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Ooo terrorism oo terrorism.

Oh wait, he converted to Christianity in 2017 AND he was detained under the mental health act AND they have a person quoted as saying he was a 'lovely person'.


Just wow.
 

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I like that they need to increase the threat level because there have been 2 completely unrelated events from 2 completely unrelated groups...2 loners by the look of it. It would be interesting to see what temporary extra powers are dished out in these times of national emergency...I've never looked.
 

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He was brown though....
He's brown with a brown name vs he was christian, mental health issues (although I'd say the two previous are pretty similar), he was a 'nice guy' and he was the only one that died...
 

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Anyone who converts to a religion - any religion - has mental health issues. Religions pray on the disturbed and if you convert in your adult like it's most likely because you're desparate.

Given where he came from he's probably been properly fucked up by his past tbh.
 

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He failed because the target isn't to kill just yourself, hell he didn't even manage to do much to the cab driver either.
 

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"In 1992, in reference to the hostilities in Yugoslavia, the UN General Assembly declared ethnic cleansing to be “a form of genocide,” and in the following year the Security Council, citing widespread and flagrant violations of international humanitarian law within the territory of the former Yugoslavia, established a tribunal to investigate allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity, including ethnic cleansing."

A distinction without a widely agreed difference.

I'm not talking about Pilger in the 70s. I'm talking about him now. He disputes that Putin poisoned anyone and that Assad is anything but a stand up guy. He has been a conspiracy kook for a long time.

View: https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1483768478951784453?s=20

The Tories engineered Partygate to victimise Russia now?

Conveniently ignores the fact that Russian troops are in Ukraine in their thousands now (and that's just in Donetsk and Luhansk, never mind the annexed Crimea. We're just supposed to forget that?)

British troops are about 100, doing training.

Ukraine has a Nazi government even though Zelensky is a Jew?

Russia is ringed by US missiles? Even if that were true (which it isn't) he forgets that the Kaliningrad Oblast has Iskander missiles capable of reaching many European capitals.

Pilger is a fucking awful human being.
 

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View: https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1483768478951784453?s=20

The Tories engineered Partygate to victimise Russia now?

Conveniently ignores the fact that Russian troops are in Ukraine in their thousands now (and that's just in Donetsk and Luhansk, never mind the annexed Crimea. We're just supposed to forget that?)

British troops are about 100, doing training.

Ukraine has a Nazi government even though Zelensky is a Jew?

Russia is ringed by US missiles? Even if that were true (which it isn't) he forgets that the Kaliningrad Oblast has Iskander missiles capable of reaching many European capitals.

Pilger is a fucking awful human being.
There was a time (about 40 years ago) when John Pilger was a journalist who had something to say; that hasn't been the case for a very long time; he's a sock puppet.
 

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There was a time (about 40 years ago) when John Pilger was a journalist who had something to say; that hasn't been the case for a very long time; he's a sock puppet.
See also Fisk, Oliver Stone, Chomsky...
 

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