Your daily terrorist bullshit.

[Wij]

And all the stupid fucking shit put there by the NRA like mental health professionals being barred from asking of you own guns.

In fact, curbs on the NRA full stop. They don't represent gun owners. Many people who buy a firearm are automatically enrolled whether they want to or not. They don't have millions of actual, willing members. The NRA represents gun manufacturers and nutters.

 

[Wij]

And all the stupid fucking shit put there by the NRA like mental health professionals being barred from asking of you own guns.

In fact, curbs on the NRA full stop. They don't represent gun owners. Many people who buy a firearm are automatically enrolled whether they want to or not. They don't have millions of actual, willing members. The NRA represents gun manufacturers and nutters.

I mean, fuuuuuck. These are shitty, scary people. They send this sort of threatening crap out to elected officials across the US:

FACT CHECK: Did the NRA Ask Judicial Candidates for 'Position Letters' on Guns?

 

[Scouse]

Peaceful protest and civil disobedience on a massive scale.

Read a new scientist article a number of years ago that weighed up the efficacy of peaceful protests as opposed to direct (sometimes violent) action that leads me to think that's a recipe for being ignored. Plus - that would happen earlier on anyway - but if you have a criminally oppressive regime it's likely that armed struggle would end up being the only option.

 

[Wij]

Read a new scientist article a number of years ago that weighed up the efficacy of peaceful protests as opposed to direct (sometimes violent) action that leads me to think that's a recipe for being ignored. Plus - that would happen earlier on anyway - but if you have a criminally oppressive regime it's likely that armed struggle would end up being the only option.

How did the Eastern European dictatorships fall?

 

[Moriath]

How did the Eastern European dictatorships fall?

By peaceful protest and western promises.

 

[fettoken]

By peaceful protest and western promises.

 

[Job]

And whats bringing them back?

 

[Embattle]

Got to love Captain Bone Spur - Trump: 'I'd have run into Florida school'

 

[Job]

Before we start pointing the finger..no one knew how many attackers there were..or where they were in a large school...you could have easily ended up shooting an innocent kid.
Situations like that need information and a careful approach.
I wouldnt have run in myself..into what exactly...hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

[DaGaffer]

Before we start pointing the finger..no one knew how many attackers there were..or where they were in a large school...you could have easily ended up shooting an innocent kid.
Situations like that need information and a careful approach.
I wouldnt have run in myself..into what exactly...hindsight is a wonderful thing.

So why have armed guards in the first place?

 

[Exioce]

Before we start pointing the finger..no one knew how many attackers there were..or where they were in a large school...you could have easily ended up shooting an innocent kid.
Situations like that need information and a careful approach.
I wouldnt have run in myself..into what exactly...hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Suggesting that arming John McClane the maths teacher maybe isn't the best solution.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/967862672476790789

 

[Job]

I hear the new John Wick movie...'His school years', has been toned down to less than 100 kills after the bully steals his pen.

 

[Hawkwind]

So why have armed guards in the first place?

Even law enforcement work on a safety first principle, you don't run in without backup. Although I heard on one report that when the cops turned up they saw 3 sherif's/marshal with guns drawn behind cars outside.

The fact that no one has informed the media what the actual procedure is that ther are some lessons to be learned.

 

[Hawkwind]

The fact that no one has informed the media what the actual procedure is that ther are some lessons to be learned.

BSOD (work laptop) interrupted - should read
The fact that no one has informed the media what the actual procedure is indicates that there are some lessons to be learned

 

[DaGaffer]

Even law enforcement work on a safety first principle, you don't run in without backup. Although I heard on one report that when the cops turned up they saw 3 sherif's/marshal with guns drawn behind cars outside.

The fact that no one has informed the media what the actual procedure is that ther are some lessons to be learned.

Yes, but this shows up the ultimate flaw in the gun lobby argument;by the time the “good guy with a gun” takes out “the bad guy with a gun” it’s all a bit too late.

 

[Job]

They need to fit everyone with a control chip so they can switch you off if need be
Sounds a bit ridiculous and peurile to mention it, but the day they invent one is the day pressure starts for everyone to have one.

 

[Wij]

Depth Of Russian Politician's Cultivation Of NRA Ties Revealed

 

[Gwadien]

Depth Of Russian Politician's Cultivation Of NRA Ties Revealed

snowflakes making up stories about nothing.

What's wrong with the Russians being mates with trump ffs/

 

[fettoken]

German newspaper Focus mentions a vehicle having been driven into a crowd of people in Germany, Münster. Driver shot himself afterwards, apparently.

 

[Moriath]

Several dead as van drives into German crowd

 

[Gwadien]

Toronto police quiz van attack suspect

Kudos to the Canadian police.

'Shoot me, I have a gun'

'A, I don't care, get down'

 

[Job]

Which is good except they will follow it up with 20yrs in jail..out in ten on good behaviour.
He can wave to his victims loved ones on his way out.

 

[Gwadien]

Which is good except they will follow it up with 20yrs in jail..out in ten on good behaviour.
He can wave to his victims loved ones on his way out.

Which is the law of the land, the law that these terrorists want to dismantle.

Or would you rather have beheadings?

 

[Job]

You will end up with beheadings on a much grander scale when the people feel they are being let down.

 

[Scouse]

Which is good except they will follow it up with 20yrs in jail..out in ten on good behaviour.
He can wave to his victims loved ones on his way out.

He was a loner at a special needs school who used to wander around making cat sounds to himself. He needs to go into a care unit, not a prison. Prison would be a waste of money and achieve nothing.

 

[Job]

Or back into mental health institution..released after not doing anything too weird for 5 years.
Of course we are into a different area of free will, is anyone actually responsible for what their brain tells them to do.
Your cuddly idiot scenario doesnt line up with a guy mowing people down and then asking the cops to shoot him in the head.

 

[Gwadien]

Or back into mental health institution..released after not doing anything too weird for 5 years.
Of course we are into a different area of free will, is anyone actually responsible for what their brain tells them to do.
Your cuddly idiot scenario doesnt line up with a guy mowing people down and then asking the cops to shoot him in the head.

Your views are so Victorian its untrue.

Problem is, Victorian approaches weren't brilliant.

Look at the USA as an example of locking people up and throwing away the key; they've got a HUGE prison population.

Look at the Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands (IIRC?) who are shutting prisons due to a lack of prisoners because of a much more 'liberal' (ie actually caring about other people) approach.

The problem with the UK is that we do half and half which is terrible.

 

[Job]

The liberal approach is a smokescreen...as all liberal policies are...under the carpet politics.

 

[Scouse]

Your cuddly idiot scenario doesnt line up with a guy mowing people down and then asking the cops to shoot him in the head.

I never said cuddly idiot at all. I said special needs (and it's clear that he's dangerous) - as can be seen by mowing people down and then asking the cops to kill him.

Answer this, directly: How does prison help fix things here?