You'd never think...

[Pippic]

Beacuse i have seen numerous friends from school fall down that path and its not a pretty sight.

i know what u mean

 

[harebear]

once again , you dont know me so please stfu ..... i know what i do , so it just makes you look stupid
i dont take E or any drug regulary , and wouldnt touch crack//heroin either.

a fucking tool.... lol.....aint even going to say anything about that.


stop trying to insult me ( if it can be called that ) , theres no need m8.

Tbh I agree with what Marc said about you, tool boi.

 

[Bishibosh]

rofl

1 line of coke can kill ??/ rofl u hitting grams in one ??

Tallen , you clearly have listened to too much bs in school.
your more likely to die from being hit by lightening than a E. alot more. alot alot more.
about people not knowing what there buying , you dont know who I know.

of course drugs are dangerous , thats fucking obvious ???
trying to be cool ..... lol u geeks ..only a clueless person would think in that way..

i think drugs are bad , but they sure are alot of fun

"Occupation:
i clean plates at a resturant while stoned"

Well if that's the life you want to lead, feel free, the more people like you there are the more vacancies in the real world there are for people who want to make something of their lives. Live it if you want, I seriously have no problem with that as long as you're not affecting other people (which I asume you may well be) and are aware of what oppertunities in life you could have if you changed the way you lived... Whatever.

 

[Driwen]

"Occupation:
i clean plates at a resturant while stoned"

Well if that's the life you want to lead, feel free, the more people like you there are the more vacancies in the real world there are for people who want to make something of their lives. Live it if you want, I seriously have no problem with that as long as you're not affecting other people (which I asume you may well be) and are aware of what oppertunities in life you could have if you changed the way you lived... Whatever.

uhm if you use drugs, doesnt mean you use them often nor that you can hold a responsible job.

 

[Raven]

i smoke the odd joint now and again - there is nothing wrong with it if its in moderation, i have a job a house and a marrage. i start studying for a degree soon too.

 

[Pippic]

i smoke the odd joint now and again - there is nothing wrong with it if its in moderation,

word

 

[Buffer]

rofl

1 line of coke can kill ??/ rofl u hitting grams in one ??

Tallen , you clearly have listened to too much bs in school.
your more likely to die from being hit by lightening than a E. alot more. alot alot more.
about people not knowing what there buying , you dont know who I know.

of course drugs are dangerous , thats fucking obvious ???
trying to be cool ..... lol u geeks ..only a clueless person would think in that way..

i think drugs are bad , but they sure are alot of fun

Clearly dont know what you are talking about.

1 line of cocaine can kill, some people are incapable of breaking the drug down in thier body, yes its rare but does happen. As for the bullshit in school I would agree there is too much, including the press.(The Sun for example)

Headline: I SMOKED CANNABIS AND WAS A BURNT OUT JUNKIE
Within 2 years I then moved onto grass to feed my addiction
.
Far too much misinformation about drugs, it would be better to educate people about the risks etc rather than telling lies or reporting in a bad way.

In school in germany when i was about 14 the teacher even told the whole class where we could buy premade reefers(quaint term) for 5dm(about £1 sterling at time). Then warned us however you dont know how strong they are. You may buy two joints, 1 for you 1 for your friend. The first gets you high, your friend smokes the other and dies. absolute bullshit. The lethal dose for cannabis is something like 28kg. Would of been far better for the teacher to say u dont know whats in them , 1 may be cannabis/grass the second may be laced with rat poison.

Drugs are not fun period ok m8, the long term physical and psychological consequences are not fun for the individual or friends/family. Constant Use causes behavioral change. And lets not forget the problems of drug related crime.

Cannabis: depression, lazyness, lethargy,paranoia
Speed: Irrational behaviour, psychosis
Acid/LSD: Paranoia, flashbacks
and the list can go on.

Your post makes you sound that you are being cool, by saying that you take drugs.
Sure I do drugs but I can handle it.
You obviuosly do not know the nature of addiction.

 

[Tallen]

rofl

1 line of coke can kill ??/ rofl u hitting grams in one ??

Tallen , you clearly have listened to too much bs in school.
your more likely to die from being hit by lightening than a E. alot more. alot alot more.
about people not knowing what there buying , you dont know who I know.

of course drugs are dangerous , thats fucking obvious ???
trying to be cool ..... lol u geeks ..only a clueless person would think in that way..

i think drugs are bad , but they sure are alot of fun

I used to be a drugs councelor, did it vouluntarily for 18 months and it was very rewarding (and quite heartbreaking at times), but you do get to know a few things.

Kids are impressionable, thats a fact, the point is that this is a forum for a computer game, kids play this game and read this, if someone wants to glorify drugs then it stands to reason there is a need to post some real facts.

If i can disuade even one kid from trying E by posting the facts then it was worthwhile.

The other reason for posting what i did was for others to be able to recognise the symptoms if they see someone in distress, simply knowing the signs of a bad reaction can be enough to save a life.

Everything i posted is true, those are the grim facts, if you cant realise this then thats up to you.

As for your "it'll never happen to me, i know what im buying is good" attitude, i can tell you from experience, you are wrong.

 

[Marc]

once again , you dont know me so please stfu ..... i know what i do , so it just makes you look stupid
i dont take E or any drug regulary , and wouldnt touch crack//heroin either.

a fucking tool.... lol.....aint even going to say anything about that.


stop trying to insult me ( if it can be called that ) , theres no need m8.

No, i think you will find its YOU that looks stupid,. acting the big hard man cos you have listened to too much Eminem and you now think you are a gangster. There is every need to insult you for posting such crap on a forum that minors read.

And I am not your m8.

 

[Tasslehoff]

This sure is Excalibur off-topic

I'm back to pryd =)

 

[Marc]

There is also one other major thing regarding drugs that hasn't been mentioned yet. The fact that soft drugs can lead to hard drugs. Im not saying that EVERY person who smokes cannabis will end up taking Heroin but you ask any smack head what drug they took first and I bet that that 99% said cannabis. I have seen "well to do" people from good backgrounds end up addicted to heroin having originally said "its ok m8, its only a joint, i wont do anything harder". Its also the social circles you mix with. Chances are if you are going to a dealer to buy drugs, that dealer will also sell heroin so again, you are mixing in them circles. All it takes is for you to be drunk and a dealer offer you some heroin and you dont know what you are doing, then BAAM! Insta addicted and the dealer has a brand spanking new heroin customer lining his pockets. Again, im not saying that this will happen in every case, in fact its probably very minimal that this will happen to you, but there is still that chance that it could.

 

[Conchabar]

marcs been listening to alot of propaganda from his skewl

 

[behatch]

Haha,Most off these "facts" about drugs are full off crap and are just people thinking they are cool using google too find out facts.

Drugs are illegal,hus they tend too exajurate(sp) a LOT..

Or you could look a ozzy osbourne

 

[behatch]

Haha,Most off these "facts" about drugs are full off crap and are just people thinking they are cool using google too find out facts.

Drugs are illegal,hus they tend too exajurate(sp) a LOT..

Or you could look a ozzy osbourne

I also think alcohol should be banned seeing recent statistics...makes you wonder why it is legal....

Then why are most things illegal in this "free country"

Aparantly we are born free,roflage! So much crap,come on kids,do drugs.The good die young!

think i fuxed this post a bit
edit
yes i pressed quote instead off edit ; (

 

[Marc]

marcs been listening to alot of propaganda from his skewl

Funny, considering I left school ten years ago and back then, the only thing that was said about drugs was "just say no". If you want to take drugs fine, just dont glamourise them like its cool. Trust me its not. I used to do the doors a few years ago and its not funny trying to throw out a group of lads who are high on cocaine I can tell you. Its also not funny when 78 year old pensioners get murdered in their flat from some heroin addict for the sake of £3.

 

[Conchabar]

If you want to take drugs fine, just dont glamourise them like its cool. Trust me its not.

this is the first thing ive said in this thread o0 and i havent said anything "cool" as you put it about drugs either

I used to do the doors a few years ago and its not funny trying to throw out a group of lads who are high on cocaine I can tell you. Its also not funny when 78 year old pensioners get murdered in their flat from some heroin addict for the sake of £3.

no its not funny. i agree ... whose to say everyone is like that ? you are just useing the most extreme examples of junkies =) i for one smoke gwan and i have yet to do anything like that (i have smoked gwan for 5 years or so now) from the way u have been speaking about drugs it would seem that taking drugs leads down all these roads..

 

[Buffer]

this is the first thing ive said in this thread o0 and i havent said anything "cool" as you put it about drugs either



no its not funny. i agree ... whose to say everyone is like that ? you are just useing the most extreme examples of junkies =) i for one smoke gwan and i have yet to do anything like that (i have smoked gwan for 5 years or so now) from the way u have been speaking about drugs it would seem that taking drugs leads down all these roads..

I think his general thrust is that you are mixing within a social group. ie say u want to get some cannbis, but fail, your usual supplier has run out. A friend says i know someone, off he goes. 30 minutes later he returns. Bad news and good news lads, he didnt have any smoke but he did have some dexys(speed). You are now gonna take speed, thats how the cycle starts.

The drug dealing system in my area is a tiered structure (well was 15 years ago). Most people will buy what they need from a person low in the tier, who is probably dealing just to fund thier own smoking. So u probably wont get the chance to get in contact with the harder drugs.

The point is tho that you have contact with people who do know how to get the harder drugs. Wether from temptation or circumstance there is always the danger you will slip and succumb to them.

 

[Conchabar]

I think his general thrust is that you are mixing within a social group. ie say u want to get some cannbis, but fail, your usual supplier has run out. A friend says i know someone, off he goes. 30 minutes later he returns. Bad news and good news lads, he didnt have any smoke but he did have some dexys(speed). You are now gonna take speed, thats how the cycle starts.

The drug dealing system in my area is a tiered structure (well was 15 years ago). Most people will buy what they need from a person low in the tier, who is probably dealing just to fund thier own smoking. So u probably wont get the chance to get in contact with the harder drugs.

The point is tho that you have contact with people who do know how to get the harder drugs. Wether from temptation or circumstance there is always the danger you will slip and succumb to them.

ye i can if i "want" to yes ive tried harder drugs but i havent continued to take them=) if sum one is stupid enough to keep taking harder drugs thats there own fault... this is where free will comes in mmk if someone wants to take something all the advising etc aint gonna do shit

heh the few ppl i know who can get hard drugs easily dont take them

 

[behatch]

Its also not funny when 78 year old pensioners get murdered in their flat from some heroin addict for the sake of £3.

Yes,drunks dont do this either...more violance is caused due too alchohol.

Accidents
Murder
Theif
Rape
Car crash's
etc

You are more likely to do the things mentioned above,when under the influence off alchohol but this doesent get brought up,just blamed on drugs..

 

[Conchabar]

Yes,drunks dont do this either...more violance is caused due too alchohol.

Accidents
Murder
Theif
Rape
Car crash's
etc

You are more likely to do the things mentioned above,when under the influence off alchohol but this doesent get brought up,just blamed on drugs..

aye just go out side after a drinking session and notice the violence

 

[Aoami]

The Streets - The Irony of it All

go listen to that song for a summary of the drugs vs alcohol debate.

 

[Driwen]

aye just go out side after a drinking session and notice the violence

doesnt make the voilence caused by other drugs any better though?

 

[Aoami]

no it's not, but it's far less frequent.

 

[Raven]

The Streets - The Irony of it All

go listen to that song for a summary of the drugs vs alcohol debate.

ffs last week i agreed with Glottis, this week i agree with Aoami - something is a miss, next week i will probably agree with something that slithers out of K9

 

[Nuked]

been there, u have fun dude, til one day u wake up and realize how much that shit fucks u up

and how much you end up spending on it

 

[Boni]

To the person who wrote about 1 line of etc blaa, def wrong, one smoke of a spliff will do nothing as the receptors in your brain wont have been roused enough yet (it takes a few smokes before you really feel anything), most typical reason why peope say 'I smoked once but it did nothing for me'... Cannaboid receptors or summint

Apoligies for this beforehand, but this is something i feel very strongly about

Thats the most rediculous post i have read for a long time, kids read these forums you jackass.

MDMA (E) isnt what i would call a "real drug", its a fashion drug for retards and its highly dangerous!

E isnt as addictive as other drugs but it is infinitely more dangerous. It increases pulminary activity, your blood pumps faster, your body temperature rises to unnatural levels and your blood pressure goes off the chart. In essence you "blow-up" internally and there is a significant % of the population who's bodies cannot handle this.

Physical symptoms such as muscle tension, involuntary teeth clenching, nausea, blurred vision, rapid eye movement, faintness, and chills or sweating.

Psychological difficulties, including confusion, depression, sleep problems, drug craving, severe anxiety, and paranoia -- during and sometimes weeks after taking MDMA (Psychotic episodes have been reported).

MDMA can fuck you up for life, it can also kill you in a heartbeat (LITERALLY!!), illnesses include nerve damage, strokes and heart attacks.

This drug has long term effects, and as for so-called "Herbal Ecstasy", it has been proven to have killed 17 people and the cause of 800 serious illnesses.

Consider this:There are two additive sources of official statistics on drug-related mortality: verdicts of dependent or non-dependent drug abuse by Coroners Courts, and reports by doctors on death certificates of fatal poisoning by controlled drugs.

First, between 1986 and 1995 there were 58 Coroners’ verdicts of deaths by drug abuse which implicated amphetamine-type drugs (notably ecstasy and/or speed). Cases of fatal poisoning during the same decade indicate a further 100 deaths involving speed and 45 involving ecstasy (MDA-type drugs, typically MDMA). Separate figures for ecstasy and speed deaths have been made available on both official mortality indicators since 1993. Between 1993 and 1995, the total number of ecstasy-related deaths was 55, while the total number of speed-related deaths was 73. Speed deaths peaked in 1995 (34), while ecstasy deaths peaked in 1994 (29). Employing British Crime Survey prevalence statistics, the annual mortality rate for ecstasy users in 1994 was estimated to be 40 linked deaths per million users, compared with 12 speed-linked deaths per million speed users (and one LSD-linked death per million LSD users).

Second, a review of newspaper reports revealed 114 deaths linked to dance drugs/parties in the decade January 1988 to December 1997 – of which 78% involved ecstasy, and 7% involved speed. The typical case was a man in his early 20s, who had taken two or three tablets at a dance party or nightclub, often with other drugs such as speed, cannabis or alcohol, and who was later admitted to hospital showing signs of heat exhaustion or heatstroke. Estimated mortality rates based on press reports declined steadily from 31 linked deaths per million ecstasy users in 1992, to 21 in 1994 and 12 in 1996. Trends generally mirrored those indicated by official statistics, though the annual number of reported speed deaths was significantly lower than the official toll. It is concluded that the British press – particularly tabloid but also broadsheet newspapers - are guilty of sensationalism, providing coverage of the majority of ecstasy deaths (typically with graphic headlines and moralistic editorials) while reporting only a minority of the fatalities linked to equally prevalent and risky drugs such as speed and cocaine.

Dont come here with your hard-man bullshit because you once dropped an E and think your an authority on drugs, you arent!


Please lock this.

You should now go read the pharmacopedia on something like... paracetamol, that would shit you up.

Heres an interesting FACT, if you are a middle aged gent with a 16 year old daughter, she is less likely to die after taking E than going horseriding...

 

[ilaya]

boni... hornets nest

btw.. at least i know why u logged earlier tonight haha

oh ignore me.. hehe, so off my tits i dont know what i'm typing

YEAH.. believe what u will.. i know truth with myself.. do you know same about yourselves?

 

[Buffer]

ye i can if i "want" to yes ive tried harder drugs but i havent continued to take them=) if sum one is stupid enough to keep taking harder drugs thats there own fault... this is where free will comes in mmk if someone wants to take something all the advising etc aint gonna do shit

heh the few ppl i know who can get hard drugs easily dont take them

That is your personal experience, maybe you was offered the hard drug once, what if your mate came along next weekend and said, hey i got some more speed you want some? Yes you can choose to say no, but once you have started it is very easy to fall into the trap.

Addiction and escapism does not mean the person is at fault, addiction is a disease, u lose your choice to free will. It takes a lot of self willpower to climb out of the pit of addiction(and a lot of help from family etc)

As for the advice, its far better to educate people about drugs rather then let them rely on press or street/urban myth. Sure u can talk till you are blue in the face about it, but if u wake up and decide u want to smoke crack, i cant stop you, but at least you will be informed about your choice

As for your friends who can get hard drugs but dont take them, think on this.
I went around my best friends house, his missus let me in, i asked where is xxxx, she said he dont live here anymore we seperated at weekend. WTF turns out he had been taking heroin for the last two years, i was his best m8 and didnt even know. So you cant always tell.

If you know people who smoke/take drugs your chances of doing so yourself are increased. Peer pressure etc.

btw dont use the term mmk, makes u sound patronising

 

[Pippic]

and how much you end up spending on it

yeah id be fucking rich if i had saved that money instead

 

[Buffer]

You should now go read the pharmacopedia on something like... paracetamol, that would shit you up.

Heres an interesting FACT, if you are a middle aged gent with a 16 year old daughter, she is less likely to die after taking E than going horseriding...

But at least she would be doing something healthy. All sports have risks, u accept and live with them. Your average sports player is a lot healthier than your average person with a drug problem.

As for your discussion on pharmacopiea it has to be put in perspective
I worked for a major drugs company and dealt with a large amount of these compunds in raw form
Drug 1:
causes skin and breathing problems, and a permanent reaction, can be fatal if reaction bad enough
Drug 2:
Can cause genetic mutation,also nausea
Drug3:
can cause termination of pregnancy, skin irritation etc
Drug 4:
Has been found to promote cancer of intestine, also of lympathic nodes, heart muscle problems, leading to cardiac arrests
Drug 5:
Causes muscles to relax leading to terminal cardiac arrest
Drug 6:
Increases blood pressure leading to a cardiac arrest. increased urinatory problems, headaches and nausea.

They are all true by the way.

The point about paracetamol is u getting it a pure manufactured way
as in a measured dose. With drugs on black market you never know. You go buy drugs from a dealer he can be selling u anything, 50% cocaine 50% plaster dust or even worse u never know.

Also when u take a prescribed medication the dosage is low enough to restrict/negate any physical harm from the drug its self. You take speed/coke whatever the dosage is high enough to make a mental effect on you and will have a physical(ie medical) effect on you

I mentioned drug 2 above , this drug works wonders, for it to cause a genetic mutation in me would require me to sit in a bath full of it for about a week, a big differnce to someone jacking up speed every day

You can use a drug ie i have headache i take 2 paracetamol or you can abuse it and take 100 with a bottle of whisky to kill yourself