WoW Paradise..

[Vasconcelos]

The main problem is they want to hang around here and flame a game they don't even play anymore. Whilst proclaiming an alternate product has no glitches, when in fact it has many just like every other game. The real test will be if Blizzard will listen to thier customers or another diablo 2 will occer.

The main reason they proclaim the so called game were talking about is just that, the old players who started DAOC at feb2002 are finding that game more like wot DAOC once was.

 

[Gamah]

I started back then too but I dont whine about it, games change..just as WoW wont be the game in 3~ years as it is now.

 

[Xeanor]

Oh Mr Xeaonor god..explain to me how linking to a few whine threads on WoW boards is dumb.

Not just that is dumb.

Personal flaming of moi in a thread which is showing the other side of WoW

It's not just showing "the other side of WoW", it contains incredibly dumb posts by you too

 

[Gamah]

I see, care to quote me happy?

 

[Xeanor]

games change..just as WoW wont be the game in 3~ years as it is now.

No-one ever thought of that!

 

[Xeanor]

just tired of these people hyping it as flawless and perfect.

There's a "Close" button at the right top of your screen.

 

[Xeanor]

And I'm not the only one thinking it:

Stupid fucking post to be honest Gamah.

 

[Poon]

Well played Xeanor ^^

 

[Morchaoron]

No point in preaching that it will/wont be perfect, people who want to play it will do it anyway regardless of whines, after that they will draw their own conclusions...

 

[Gamah]

Random Shit

Heh your a tard.

 

[Revz]

That would be a good comeback had you not spelt it incorrectly you tard.

 

[Gamah]

wtf?

Suggest a mod closes this thread, its gone way off topic with the usual trolls getting all excited because they have an opotunity to flame someone.

 

[Laston]

wtf?

Suggest a mod closes this thread, its gone way off topic with the usual trolls getting all excited because they have an opotunity to flame someone.

your being silly so it´s your own fault for acting like a tard. I havent seen anyone say that WoW will be perfect. for myself compared to DAoC WoW beats DAoC

1) no grind (yes pve´ing is fun! amagad!)

2) no BBs (say what you want, i cant stand BBs)

3) new (DAoC is rather old

4) more n00b friendly (DAoC you need ml/rr/arties/scrolls)

5) cooler enviroment (Hibernia, nuff said)


no matter what you say people should try WoW themselve and no reading the official forums does not count (seen whineboards maybe)

 

[Ctuchik]

So lets take a look at some of the recent titles of posts on the WoW forums, because its such a perfect game there could not be any whine right?

"Daoc has bad quests with bad rewards"

High Level, End-Game Quest TERRIBLE DESIGN
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=403205&p=1&tmp=1#post403205

"Daoc is an unbalanced game overpowered classes WOW is perfectly balanced"

Good job ignoring the blatant Paladin problem
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=398460&p=1&tmp=1#post398460
Updated Post Blizzard, what is the story with mages?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=392499&p=1&tmp=1#post392499
Why are hunters so OVERPOWERED?!?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=402772&p=1&tmp=1#post402772

Have fun in your balanced game.

high level end game have terrible design because they havent IMPLEMENTED IT YET! was the same with DAoC when that went retail! and probably with ANY MMOrpg that go gold...

and paladins dont have a problem. they are more or less ALWAYS the last class standing after a fight... them and those bloody priests..

 

[Z^^]

type Wow - Daoc

pve 1 - 0
basicly, you done all in Daoc Toa didn't add anything more fun execpt maybe
ml rush but doing mls with two chars is as fun as eating the pizza after u puked.

pvp 0 - ½
who knows nf totaly ruined the game for my type of players (the fgvsfg ppl)
anyhow some of ous have been bored of grinding all of the noobs anyhow for along time and the thing toa added was your basicly stuck with one char if you dont like pve like svartmetal, but ofc pvp is full of action in both games but it gonna take alot of grinding to get to level 60 in wow but on the way you can have some fun pvp if your not getting stomped by some highlevel.
Daoc is better atm because you can if you like it and dont have to do shit.

Class balance well daoc been running for (3?) years and they never figured out if they wanted it to be realm vs realm balance or groups of 8vs8
or pvp balance like 1vs1, they didn't get it right at all for any of thise imo
realm sure....
albion might be the best realm for zergs with power transfare/taps cabbalist pet recycles and etc but pbae on two classes in hibernia with animist etc you get my point?
8vs8 Maybe savages wasn't such a good balanced class 1.63 but still dh managed to play good, but for the casual players who dont play on the same levels as RVR guilds they never see the top layer of the best setups.
If im not being totaly unfair to dh or jh we had about 50% win/50% loss ratio with dh. (1.65 albion might had the best setup in any realm)
1vs1 uhm if you played both sb and infil there is no doubt that the infil with buffbot is a much stronger class and what about bonedancer(witch any noob can play like a pro using debuff and dmg buttons)
Even when I was speced aug with my healer i had not much chance vs heavy thanks because of the 100% interrupt, but then again it wasn't supposed to be a good 1vs1 char i suppose.

What wow did is they said they didn't care how class balance where they only focus on 5vs5 pvp battles, unless i got it wrong. Anyhow you as paladin didn't have much chance vs mages but some mages who fought paladins found they didn't have much chance of winning even when they where of equal level.

//edited oh and wow have gone gold sold out record in the us, Daoc with new frontiers and toa have in many daoc players eyes made the game more crap. Wow is maybe not the "best game ever or anything" but certainly more fun then continueing with daoc. (all my daoc accounts sold)

 

[Gamah]

your being silly so it´s your own fault for acting like a tard. I havent seen anyone say that WoW will be perfect. for myself compared to DAoC WoW beats DAoC

1) no grind (yes pve´ing is fun! amagad!)

2) no BBs (say what you want, i cant stand BBs)

3) new (DAoC is rather old

4) more n00b friendly (DAoC you need ml/rr/arties/scrolls)

5) cooler enviroment (Hibernia, nuff said)


no matter what you say people should try WoW themselve and no reading the official forums does not count (seen whineboards maybe)

I think many of you don't read..or read the first post and hit reply... great stuff calling me a tard right off the bat really gonna make me listen to your arguement

People havn't said WoW will be perfect, they have implied it (as said before). Yes people should try WoW and make up there own minds. infact I will probably be doing the same thing untill the "1337 warcraft kiddies" drive me off the servers with "1337 5[]D33k" and what is the difference in your post to mine? You list only good points and I list only bad posts..Golly your right I am a tard for only listing one side of a game. However people are only allowed to say good things about the game? Right... But hey its the daoc boards which means we should all be daoc haters and slag off the game 24/7 and if anyone blemishes the uber WoW then they must be hevens (sp?),

Get a grip and stop being a Fanboi, yes WoW is new but I think if you list all the "good" things about WoW you would have found them at daoc when it was released, but *sigh* like most internet posters you can't see past your giant egos.

The problem with the internet is everyones an expert at everything.

By the way I'm kinda glad the "amagad" type people are leaving for WoW to create there own easy mode paradise, and god forbid I may actully see some proper English when I am playing the game.

 

[Gamah]

type Wow - Daoc

pve 1 - 0
basicly, you done all in Daoc Toa didn't add anything more fun execpt maybe
ml rush but doing mls with two chars is as fun as eating the pizza after u puked.

Some people do find collecting artis fun. Yes mythic did screw up, making artis such a powerfull thing in RvR meaning that PvE haters had to do countless PvE just to continue to do what they loved. NOthing thats not really addressed in the upcomming patches though.

pvp

0 - ½
who knows nf totaly ruined the game for my type of players (the fgvsfg ppl)
anyhow some of ous have been bored of grinding all of the noobs anyhow for along time and the thing toa added was your basicly stuck with one char if you dont like pve like svartmetal, but ofc pvp is full of action in both games but it gonna take alot of grinding to get to level 60 in wow but on the way you can have some fun pvp if your not getting stomped by some highlevel.
Daoc is better atm because you can if you like it and dont have to do shit.

FG Vs FG is still very possible, just all the lazymode FG Vs FG cba to try and make it work and because they can't farm 4fg of "noobs" as you put it any more they quit..good ridence.

Class balance well daoc been running for (3?) years and they never figured out if they wanted it to be realm vs realm balance or groups of 8vs8
or pvp balance like 1vs1, they didn't get it right at all for any of thise imo

I agree here but class blance is a VERY hard thing to achieve and I doubt WoW or any game will ever get this right unless all chars have the same abilities as each other, and who wants to play a game like that.

realm sure....
albion might be the best realm for zergs with power transfare/taps cabbalist pet recycles and etc but pbae on two classes in hibernia with animist etc you get my point?

This paragraph doesn't seem to have a point except calling albs zergers prehaps?

8vs8 Maybe savages wasn't such a good balanced class 1.63 but still dh managed to play good, but for the casual players who dont play on the same levels as RVR guilds they never see the top layer of the best setups.
If im not being totaly unfair to dh or jh we had about 50% win/50% loss ratio with dh. (1.65 albion might had the best setup in any realm)

No comment ont this.

1vs1 uhm if you played both sb and infil there is no doubt that the infil with buffbot is a much stronger class and what about bonedancer(witch any noob can play like a pro using debuff and dmg buttons)
Even when I was speced aug with my healer i had not much chance vs heavy thanks because of the 100% interrupt, but then again it wasn't supposed to be a good 1vs1 char i suppose.

Err no a healer is not supposed to take out a heavy tank....heh.

What wow did is they said they didn't care how class balance where they only focus on 5vs5 pvp battles, unless i got it wrong. Anyhow you as paladin didn't have much chance vs mages but some mages who fought paladins found they didn't have much chance of winning even when they where of equal level.

So WoW developers Blizard said they didn't care about class balance? mmm, speaks for its self..but I hardly think they would say that, would be public suicide. And what your saying is Paladins didn't have any chance against mages but mages couldn't kill Paladin's...I see.

//edited oh and wow have gone gold sold out record in the us, Daoc with new frontiers and toa have in many daoc players eyes made the game more crap. Wow is maybe not the "best game ever or anything" but certainly more fun then continueing with daoc. (all my daoc accounts sold)

Great the game went gold? Well not really supprising as its based on one of the most successfull titles in the gaming world. Doesn't actully make the game any better though does it?

 

[Gamah]

and paladins dont have a problem. they are more or less ALWAYS the last class standing after a fight... them and those bloody priests..

Nice to see you actully read the posts before comenting...the "Paladin Problem" is that they are apprantly overpowered which you just confirmed with your own statement.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

The only problems with imbalances associated with MMORPG is the players themselves, in most cases.

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[Daedalus]

I was just wondering.. is there a relation between the overpoweredness of certain classes in a game, and, the amount of a certain class occuring more often in any 'best setup' than in a random group?

 

[Raewyn]

Nice to see you actully read the posts before comenting...the "Paladin Problem" is that they are apprantly overpowered which you just confirmed with your own statement.

So you've never actually played the game and by reading the boards you decide on, if the game is balanced or not / better than daoc or not.

Nice to see you actually have played the game before commenting.

 

[Tiki]

Funny how people spring to the defence of daoc, its total shit now. If mythic even half thought through an expansion not so many people would be leaving just for the hell of it. But Nf is so bad its scary and I have RR5+ hunter, sick template, red spec haste bot & buffbot. Just think if I only had a tank class..

 

[LordjOX]

Blizz boards are so full of shit, dont read them, fuckin yanks

 

[Z^^]

I was just wondering.. is there a relation between the overpoweredness of certain classes in a game, and, the amount of a certain class occuring more often in any 'best setup' than in a random group?

How could you balance a game with 1full group of dedicated players vs 8 random ppl joining forces to run out tk you basicly can't not in any game unless that game is pure 1 button classes, but Imo guildwars is gonna do that good with the random fg vs random fg.

 

[Zapsi]

How could you balance a game with 1full group of dedicated players vs 8 random ppl joining forces to run out tk you basicly can't not in any game unless that game is pure 1 button classes, but Imo guildwars is gonna do that good with the random fg vs random fg.

Hmmz not played it to much but cant u fight guild v guild in 1 zone ?

 

[living]

Im only playing WOW cuz buffbots and PL ruined DAOC for me .. running solo unbuffed with a non stealther class actually got u RPs once.. heck u might even kill more ppl than u would die. Buffbots caused people to solo their way tru the levels rather than grping, or they would just join some random pl grp and be 50 in a few days...

Daoc was a kick ass game before they brougt in spellcrafting, buffbots, toa and all the l33t kids who coulden't care less about others other than their e-penis

 

[Laston]

I think many of you don't read..or read the first post and hit reply... great stuff calling me a tard right off the bat really gonna make me listen to your arguement

People havn't said WoW will be perfect, they have implied it (as said before). Yes people should try WoW and make up there own minds. infact I will probably be doing the same thing untill the "1337 warcraft kiddies" drive me off the servers with "1337 5[]D33k" and what is the difference in your post to mine? You list only good points and I list only bad posts..Golly your right I am a tard for only listing one side of a game. However people are only allowed to say good things about the game? Right... But hey its the daoc boards which means we should all be daoc haters and slag off the game 24/7 and if anyone blemishes the uber WoW then they must be hevens (sp?),

Get a grip and stop being a Fanboi, yes WoW is new but I think if you list all the "good" things about WoW you would have found them at daoc when it was released, but *sigh* like most internet posters you can't see past your giant egos.

The problem with the internet is everyones an expert at everything.

By the way I'm kinda glad the "amagad" type people are leaving for WoW to create there own easy mode paradise, and god forbid I may actully see some proper English when I am playing the game.

yeah quests where great fun in DAoC at start go kill mob behind a tree in a forest somewhere :kissit: mucho fun! and dont get me started on the crafting system.


<shrug> the only bad thing i can think of is the whiny players

and a few retarded quests (get 15 of low drop rate item from rare mob spawn type) other than that it´s fun easy.

way to go on calling an majority of the WoW players retarded kids who can only type in l33t speak btw. really good impression there