WoW Paradise..

[Gamah]

So lets take a look at some of the recent titles of posts on the WoW forums, because its such a perfect game there could not be any whine right?

"Daoc has bad quests with bad rewards"

High Level, End-Game Quest TERRIBLE DESIGN
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=403205&p=1&tmp=1#post403205

"Daoc is an unbalanced game overpowered classes WOW is perfectly balanced"

Good job ignoring the blatant Paladin problem
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=398460&p=1&tmp=1#post398460
Updated Post Blizzard, what is the story with mages?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=392499&p=1&tmp=1#post392499
Why are hunters so OVERPOWERED?!?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=402772&p=1&tmp=1#post402772

Have fun in your balanced game.

 

[Pinp]

Will do, thanks!

 

[Bellona]

Hundreds of threads just as polite, contructive and informative (or moreso, with tons of numbers and data) have been posted over the past 6 months or so, with absolutely ZERO useful info from Blizzard about the class. Every single one, ignored/deleted/canned response.


They just dont care.

 

[snoz]

People will whine about anything ... and where are u getting your quotes ? Who ever said wow is perfectly balanced ?

 

[Leleith]

Touché!

 

[SilverHood]

Who honestly gives a toss?

Tyren said they don't listen to their customers when balancing classes...
They're probably fix'ing most things in the new patch anyway. (Thumbs up for yanks who are paying for our beta)

The bNet kiddies wouldn't be happy unless everyone used the same weapon, were the same class, had exactly the same stats, and identical armor.
Oh, and they want to be level 60 instantly.
Of course, then they'd whine for a greater weapon choice. Say 2 weapons. Of course, one would always be over powered.
Most of all, they all want to play an overpowered class. Which doesn't exist in their perfect game, so they go whine on the WoW boards some more.

Reading those threads doesn't show Blizzards lack of response on balancing. It highlights a few flaws... DAOC was far from perfect when it came out (still is far from perfect)
Those threads also highlight that 90% of the posters on the US WoW boards are morons. Biggest one is Zhala, from those threads, I think.
Judging from the US WoW boards, United Nations need to implement birth control in the US of A. Minimum IQ 70.

 

[Driwen]

So lets take a look at some of the recent titles of posts on the WoW forums, because its such a perfect game there could not be any whine right?

I think you could pick any game and go to their main forum and "prove" that the game is unperfect though.

And the NERF X class is just started by someone who is clueless about the class they want nerfed (they dont know what their weakness is) and most likely about their own class aswell.

The mage thread is most likely a concern though (cba to check wether or not it actually is). However it happens in mmorpg's that certain classes are broken.
And about the quest, you might miss an item you need to initiate a quest. However you can get it again if you kill the mob and Blizzard might fix it aswell.

Off course this does prove that Blizzard isnt perfect, but I doubt many actually believed them to be. Also you can find similar threads on the vnboards about daoc aswell and it is 3-4 years old now I think? (my point being that while wow is just a normal game, it can be for some still be a better game than daoc)

 

[Ning]

Touché!

coulé

 

[Poon]

QQ

 

[Vasconcelos]

Damn a game that has imbalances after 1month of release date!!

Call 911 hurry!

 

[Sharma]

People will whine about anything ... and where are u getting your quotes ? Who ever said wow is perfectly balanced ?

Nearly every single person ive spoke to has said the typical "Blizzard is omnipotent and WoW is flawless" in some way or another.

WoW is a complete re-hash of every other MMO on the market packaged in a cartoony gfx package.

If thats your bag then go for it i'd say.

 

[Gamah]

Damn a game that has imbalances after 1month of release date!!

Call 911 hurry!

Its 999 where I come from.

 

[Equendil]

I've played MUDs and stuff for a long time now, and tbh, you could have the most balanced game ever made, you would still get a shitload of people crying about stuff for all the wrong reasons (not saying anyone complaining is doing it for the wrong reasons of course).

I once had been given the complete source code of a certain MUD I was playing, curtesy of its main developer, and it was quite funny to read the boards filled with "wahh wahh, my spells need a boost", "wahh wahh, it's unfair, dorfs are gimp", "wahh wahh, <insert class> is hitting for twice as much as mine", with the source code undeniably saying exactly the opposite no matter how one looked at it.

You could make a game with two classes having the exact same average damage output, let's say two casting classes with nukes doing the exact same damage on average, but with different sounds and animation, open a board, and laugh at retards claiming they get hit for twice as much as they do in return.

Now, there is legit reasons for complaining about balance etc, but the point is, there can be smoke without fire in the matter.

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

ahahaha,

anyhow Im not switching to wow cause daoc has unballanced classes or lag issues
or whatever Im swithcing for 1 reason only (well 2) NF and toa.

Id love to play daoc instead of wow as I like the "feel" of the game alot more then wow
but after master levels, artifacts and new fronteirs I just dont like rvr anymore
in daoc.

 

[Fafnir]

Wish people played the classes they whine about.

 

[Buppi]

the game is 3 weeks old. go figure

 

[Jaem-]

Nearly every single person ive spoke to has said the typical "Blizzard is omnipotent and WoW is flawless" in some way or another.

WoW is a complete re-hash of every other MMO on the market packaged in a cartoony gfx package.

If thats your bag then go for it i'd say.

Snap, most I've spoken to have said the same thing, reading about the game made me want to try it all the hype etc, but trying beta just made me lose interest, too simple, rather pay to play something complex.

Balance is near to imposible to achieve in a game imo.

 

[oblimov]

all mmorpgs have their issues, im just looking forward to something new after grinding in the same shite for so long

no doubt wow will end up the same shite but for just now its new shite

 

[Azathrim]

I find it pretty funny when people describe their motives for changing to WoW.

Often it is a combination of ToA and NF'. Ok, let us look at those two reasons:

You have most likely already completed ToA. Got an ok suit, done some or all master levels on one or more of your characters. Now you want to change to a game (and start from fresh), where there is 60 levels. No expansions have been released yet, meaning you still don't know how they increase the level limit. So all in all, you whine about a little more PvE in DAoC, just to change to a game where you have tons of PvE ahead. Riighto.

Now, you also whine about NF. And the alternative is? As far as I know, Blizzard havent released any details of how they want to implement their PvE system (other than the system about the zones - but nothing about bonuses, etc). But, uh oh, "Everyone zergs in NF and I don't like keep fights!" Well, duh! Noone forces you to hug a wall with the zerg. Noone. I haven't so far, no reason you should. And, don't fool yourself and think there won't be more zergs in WoW.

 

[Flimgoblin]

people move to WoW because they want new shinies.

If they really hated ToA that much they'd have quit a long time ago.

btw, I don't think Gamah is trying to say "omg wow sucks it's so unbalanced" incase anyone thought he was.

He's saying "moving to WoW to get away from any perceived imbalances in daoc is entirely futile"

 

[Oro]

I seem to remember a recent Gamah post complaining about people making endless WoW posts on here

I really can't be bothered to go through the WoW vs DAoC debate endlessly. Different games, different feel.

Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks.

 

[SoulFly]

Damn a game that has imbalances after 1month of release date!!

Call 911 hurry!

Where's the WHAaaaaaaaaaaaambuuuuuulaaaaaaanceeeeeeee?!?!??!! 8<

 

[old.Tohtori]

But what about HL2?

 

[DavidH]

Its a bit strange when people say, "omg wtf, I hate ToA, its pve pve pve amagawd" and they actually move to a game which is MORE PvE oriented. And trust me, I'm pretty sure everyone will be shit tired after a while with their so-called "nice leveling" and "fun questing" and actually "not so bad crafting".

 

[Sobek]

But what about HL2?

HL2 is unbalanced, Gordon Freeman got superior weapons, and not to mention Bug Bait!

besides what does HL2 have in commen with mmorpgs? oh yes.. a few "npcs" speak now an then

 

[Raewyn]

Who gives a fuck ?

 

[old.Tohtori]

besides what does HL2 have in commen with mmorpgs? oh yes.. a few "npcs" speak now an then

If we don't take into consideration of the joke factor in my comment, then:

*takes in a deep breath*

Both games.

Both very very popular.

Both discussed in wrong forums most the time.

Both have the dreaded "addict" "danger".

Both are developed over many many years.

Both are quite similar in production, considering graphics atleast and in some parts code.

Both have silly things in them that you rarely see in real life.

In massive you stare (usually) at a male butt for hours on end. In HL2 you "play" with Gordon. Obvious homoerotic drives in both of them.

Both have a lot of bugs in them, in HL2 they are a bit more visible.

Both have whiners in them.

Both have the "eleet" factor.

*pant pant*

Ok, i'm done.

 

[Revz]

If you aren't going to play it then does it really matter? Threads like this probably won't change peoples minds one way or the other and if you are posting it on the offchance that you might sway some people then I'd be more worried that you thought DAoC needed your personal intervention to keep it alive. Just going by the number of threads about it (hello 15 page poll with over 10,000 views) there is obviously something slightly different about the DAoC -> WoW movement than for most of the other MMOGs that barely register a single post in here. And if there is so what? DAoC won't die and WoW will be a success.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Give gravity gun in DAoC, oh wait, thats zephyr.

Im sure WoW will attract a lot of ppl from all MMORPGs, DAoC is not alone here, but lets face it, we will all try something new, even I tried SWG (yuk!). I do beleive ppl will eventually find WoW to be worse than both DAoC and SWG for its PvE content, or will cap everything in a few weeks and find things a little dull. Time will tell.

 

[Fafnir]

people move to WoW because they want new shinies.

If they really hated ToA that much they'd have quit a long time ago.

btw, I don't think Gamah is trying to say "omg wow sucks it's so unbalanced" incase anyone thought he was.

He's saying "moving to WoW to get away from any perceived imbalances in daoc is entirely futile"

Well i've played about 30 days this year total of daoc, and each time i quit was due to TOA and its crappy bugs, and the time you had to put into each game session to be able to complete anything. ML's was the worst idea in the way they are right now. Alot of players cant sit 6 hours in a row to complete a raid. Ohhhh forgot the shite thats called ml3 thats what made me quit first time after toa release 17 times i've been thru that dungeon and 16 times 1 mob was bugged so could not complete it.

You can wonder why a game that advertise being a rvr/pvp game puts so much effort into being pve, what would make toa more intressting is to make the arti mobs spawn faster, fix the bugs on the bugged arti encounters increase arti xp from rvr alot.

What i like about WoW its new, its fun, i never laughed when i started playing daoc, when I played WoW beta i got atleast one good laugh a day, and even when getting chain ganked in barrens i didnt get the feeling i got in daoc when getting chain ganked by infils in emain. And in daoc you die in 2 sec if you are lvl20 and goes up against a lvl50, in WoW you have a chance to escape if you play smart, managed to get a lvl60 dead at the elevator in Barrens when he tried to jump after me. But will have to wait and see what happens when the pvp system is put into the game as it was intended.