WoW new screenies, looks cool

[acei]

Looks farrrr too cartoony for my tastes, it's meant to have some realism to it, not cartoon graphics.

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Hmmm i like the way WoW looks, yes its a bit cartoony but they pull it off.

And with those RA changes in DAoC i think many people will see WoW > DAoC

erm... with the utterly little and very silly PvP in WoW? :eek2:
My guess is that many will jump on the WoW fotm and bounce back saying it sucks 'cus it do't have any proper PvP.
Just my Cheesy guess tho, good as any!

 

[Archeon]

That would be a good thing. A quasilookin Donald Duck thing would not.... that's my point.

Your point is wrong and evil, and because of that I pass those traits onto you. You are wrong and you are evil!

Don't try to argue my logic either, I can spend all day spouting this crap

 

[Robot]

To be honest i think this may turn into a very good game, people have to take into consideration that unlike SWG, this game hasn't been rushed into production and into the shops. They been at this project for a long time now, and remember that its also Blizzard! making this game, the same guys that brought out classics like starcraft, warcraft and diablo not just any old assholes who decided to make a mmporg. These guys have sold in the region of 20 million copies of there games, cant say there is many other companies that can boast that amount of sales in the current pc gaming market.

I don't think ill be rushing out to get it straight away, but will give it a shot and see what its like, i think people should have an open mind and not shoot this game down before they have heard if its good or not. I still enjoy daoc since the first day i started, but one day ill move on just like i did with Ultima Online

 

[kirennia]

WoW seems to be going the same way as SWG, months of hype followed by a release of mass dissapointment.
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The main reason being that SWG was jsut being hyped because it was starwars whereas WoW is being hyped because it's being made by a company with an almost flawless reputation for making new and unique games compared to the standard treadmill.

Gameplay >>> graphics imo

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Your point is wrong and evil, and because of that I pass those traits onto you. You are wrong and you are evil!

Don't try to argue my logic either, I can spend all day spouting this crap

Ofc I'm evil! Mostly dead wrong aswell! I whine on people who are whining for a living and I give free Cheese to the masses! How's that for agueing your logic?

 

[gervaise]

Well graphics is only one part of a game but:

Picking up on the 'cartoony graphics' I suggest people take time to seriously look at the screenshots that are available (lots are player posted and are not posted by Blizzard). Maybe download one of the later movies. even if you have no intention of playing the artwork is impressive. The detail is phenomenal as well.

I originally read a thread on the Dragon Empires board a few months ago and nearly made the mistake of assuming it was true. After all whiners had said it yes? Then I had a serious look (I like artwork). People may not like the style but they are not cartoony. Richard Corbin draws cartoon like graphics. WoW is more in the style of Tim White or Michael Wheelon especially in its use of colour. (I will let folks look the names up).

The look is only a part of the game though. What is very clever about the graphics is that they are not designed for cutting edge systems. Blizzard has deliberately taken 'simpler' techniques and had their art department sweat - lots of sweat. So no 'staring at ones feet on the way to a relic raid' feeling.

As to PvP well the expectation is that it will exist in some - as yet unannounced form.

And as to whether anyone will play people have realised that Freddy's Forum is probably more active than the VN boards these days. Yup no whines these days, th enear 30,000 a month ToA posts have dried up to a trickle. Frontiers is dead to, so europe may end up debugging Frontiers.

 

[WiZe^]

Givf Tarus droood

"My life for the horde"

 

[Morlantis]

It lookes like the N64 Version of DAoC

 

[crategus]

http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ScreenShot.aspx?ImageIndex=145&Set=0

arghh, TOA already inside ;] :touch: uke:

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Well graphics is only one part of a game

A very big part as mmorpgs tend to steal a great portion of peoples life, and I don't want to spend endless hours lookin at sumthing I don't really like. just my oppinion. And it's my Cheese and I'll do do what I darn like to with it!

As to PvP well the expectation is that it will exist in some - as yet unannounced form.

Unannounced?? Lookie here m8. And I don't find it more apealing than the gfx tbh... :|

 

[Teh FnoRd]

It lookes like the N64 Version of DAoC

rofl

 

[Zhan_Wybrandt]

Woohoo its Banjo Kazooie all over again.

As for the lack of PVP they can sod off if they dont pull their socks up.

to me anyway it looks like people dont care about discarding all their work into daoc and jumping into the same game with different graphics style and the same whiners.

 

[Draylor]

As to PvP well the expectation is that it will exist in some - as yet unannounced form.

People hoped/expected the same of SWG: the majority were very disappointed.

Various comments from WOW devs suggests their idea of 'end-game' content is EQ style raiding rather than PvP. Thatll suit some people Im sure - but it wont keep those looking for PvP happy.

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Various comments from WOW devs suggests their idea of 'end-game' content is EQ style raiding rather than PvP. Thatll suit some people Im sure - but it wont keep those looking for PvP happy.

And isn't it funny that many of those who screams for WoW also say that the main reason that they stay with DAoC is that it got the best PvP atm.

 

[Deacan]

After playing WoW, i can say its the best thing since sliced bread

Very smooth game engine, the world atmosphere is stunning, screen shots do the game no justice, you really need to play it to just feel how damn good it is.

All i can say its worth the wait, and had butt loads of emotes to boot

 

[Jaem-]

Hmm, WoW gfx look too cartoony for my liking.

 

[Deacan]

They are not cartoony, wait till you play the game.

Sick of people saying that, THE GAME WILL ALSO HAVE FRACTION V FRACTION servers for the people who moan about pvp.

I really can't wait till you play the game, then you will see how "cartoony" the game looks.

 

[judas]

to cartoony imo.

 

[Raven]

Though i am sure that it will be a game of high standard in its own genre there is no point in comparing it to DAOC as they are 2 totally different games, 1 a pve game (WoW) one a very good blend of high end PvE and (most of the time) Good rvr. I actually think daoc could have a few years left in it, IF, it is managed properly and we dont see anything like the well thought out, badly implemented TOA. Sure expansions are welcome for new content but nerfing the crap out of it a couple of months down the line screams of stupidity (yes it is needed but it shouldnt of been like it is in the 1st place) I think frontiers will be great for daoc as atm its the stagnent run out as a fg meet the zerg or insanely over powered fotm groups with the perfect RA's (not directed at any realm in particuler)
With hybrids now getting det, RA's like sos, perfect recovery, ichor etc being available to all three realms it will make for some interesting rvr with everyone being able to have a go, not just the usual boring same set up groups of chanters or savages.

 

[judas]

Though i am sure that it will be a game of high standard in its own genre there is no point in comparing it to DAOC as they are 2 totally different games, 1 a pve game (WoW) one a very good blend of high end PvE and (most of the time) Good rvr. I actually think daoc could have a few years left in it, IF, it is managed properly and we dont see anything like the well thought out, badly implemented TOA. Sure expansions are welcome for new content but nerfing the crap out of it a couple of months down the line screams of stupidity (yes it is needed but it shouldnt of been like it is in the 1st place) I think frontiers will be great for daoc as atm its the stagnent run out as a fg meet the zerg or insanely over powered fotm groups with the perfect RA's (not directed at any realm in particuler)
With hybrids now getting det, RA's like sos, perfect recovery, ichor etc being available to all three realms it will make for some interesting rvr with everyone being able to have a go, not just the usual boring same set up groups of chanters or savages.

WoW aint a 100% pve game...

 

[iluvatur]

after having got a copy of the WoW alpha leak .... i managed to run around the world and check out all the locations ...

first of all ... the world didn't seem that big ... it was large .. but nothing compared to all the places you can go in daoc. The graphics were indeed very nice, but after the initial 'Ohhh its look pretty', you soon become familiarised with them and it's not really an issue then and taken for granted ( isn't it the same for all games?, how long before you took the graphics engine for toa as ''then norm'' instead of a big step up from classic or si).

One thing that did disapoint me was the fighting style ... the run-up and mash styles as fast as you can ( bear in mind i was only lvl 3-4 ) this could have been because of the low level and lack of variation or the latency with the test server i was running it on. But if anyones played diablo 2 etc .. i certaintly don't want to put my fingers through that again ( for anyone who played a frenzy barbarian into high levels, you'll know what i mean :O)

The actual characters didn't seem that detailed ... but the animations were smooth and generally nicely done. However, i think the biggest turn off for me was the final version of the char models ... they seemed to go to the very extremes that the models could have taken ... making the models look 'very' cartoony instead of looking semi realistic.

You may disagree but that's how i felt about it, wish they had made the world a little more realistic while still maintaining the fantasy element. we'll have to wait for the final version

 

[gervaise]

after having got a copy of the WoW alpha leak .... i managed to run around the world and check out all the locations ...

first of all ... the world didn't seem that big ... it was large .. but nothing compared to all the places you can go in daoc. The graphics were indeed very nice, but after the initial 'Ohhh its look pretty', you soon become familiarised with them and it's not really an issue then and taken for granted ( isn't it the same for all games?, how long before you took the graphics engine for toa as ''then norm'' instead of a big step up from classic or si).

One thing that did disapoint me was the fighting style ... the run-up and mash styles as fast as you can ( bear in mind i was only lvl 3-4 ) this could have been because of the low level and lack of variation or the latency with the test server i was running it on. But if anyones played diablo 2 etc .. i certaintly don't want to put my fingers through that again ( for anyone who played a frenzy barbarian into high levels, you'll know what i mean :O)

The actual characters didn't seem that detailed ... but the animations were smooth and generally nicely done. However, i think the biggest turn off for me was the final version of the char models ... they seemed to go to the very extremes that the models could have taken ... making the models look 'very' cartoony instead of looking semi realistic.

You may disagree but that's how i felt about it, wish they had made the world a little more realistic while still maintaining the fantasy element. we'll have to wait for the final version

Don't see much point commenting on the leaked alpha version - world size today is considered huge for example. What would be interesting is how you think it has changed since alpha e.g. there is the recently released movie showing how several characeter have been built up, facial expressions etc. They are tons better then the promo footage of 12 months ago when the characters did look 'less detailed etc.'

 

[gervaise]

A very big part as mmorpgs tend to steal a great portion of peoples life, and I don't want to spend endless hours lookin at sumthing I don't really like. just my oppinion. And it's my Cheese and I'll do do what I darn like to with it!

Unannounced?? Lookie here m8. And I don't find it more apealing than the gfx tbh... :|

:wub: Like I said that people may not like the graphics. And full power to anyone who decides that they don't like them. WoWs graphics I would describe as distinctive - and it may be a love them or hate them response. ToA's graphics are excellent but not 'memorable'. I would say the same of EQ2 having just watched the new trailer movie - swish, slick etc. but it could almost be ToA; ditto Dragon Realms. I don't mean they are all the same, what I am saying is that they are all well crafted, well polished and the sort of thing your granny would approve of to borrow a saying. I wouldn't say that about Wow. some of the colours they have used are artistically dangerous.

As to PvP I have followed the discussion but clearly some people were (are) of the opinion that WoW has no PvP - as stated my others in this thread. Your link is excellent as a pointer to what is currently known. The basic assumption being that it will primarily be be Horde vs. Alliance with 'an intent' of having 'some sort of' computer balancing to avoid the zerg steamrollers we have all seen in DAoC. Other discussions have speculated on pure PvP servers etc kinda like the different server options that EQ has (pure out and out PvP, deity based PvP, racial based PvP etc)The article finishes with a 'now we will see whether they can pull it off'.

 

[chipper]

dont like the look of the chat but ill see when its released

 

[Deacan]

"...PvP zones in World of Warcraft are designed to have the feel of being in a Warcraft III game while still maintaining the intensity of a Battlefield 1942 type game. The zones are designed to be used as teams and with objectives to achieve. This isn't just a bloodbath in the center of the map. You'll want to do everything you can to destroy your opponent's infrastructure in order to keep them from spawning new friendly units to accent the players in the zone..." - OneMadeOgre@worldofwar.net

- Siege weapons should be implemented at release. (catapults, steam tanks, and other siege equipment that the players can operate).

- PvP is consensual. 90% of World of Warcraft's zones will not be PvP enabled.

- The 10% that will be PvP will have PvP elements such as arenas or even battlefields where players will fight for control of towers or other such buildings.

- 'Frontier' style PvP will be available.

- WoW's 'frontier' PvP areas have been boasted by Blizzard staff @ E3 as being larger than any current competitor's.

- Questing will be possible in some PvP areas.

- Different PvP areas will be available for different 'tiers' of level ranges. For example: Players of a specific level range (say 20-30) will be allowed into a PvP area for their tier. Once the player has leveled passed the limit, they will no longer be able to access this PvP area with that character and now be able to access a new PvP area for a different tier of levels.

Thats whats pvp will be like on the normal servers.

Sounds just like daoc.

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Sounds just like daoc.

Sounds just like WC3 on steroids imo...

 

[Ethiraseth]

Looking forward to playing it, need something new. Think the graphics are very nice and about almost pvp, great for me, i suck at it anyway

 

[Svartmetall]

Horrible, cartoony WoW characters...

I think a lot of people are going to find WoW a huge disappointment!

Aye, it looks pretty cartoony and "high" fantasy (if you know what I mean)...I think DAOC is a lot more down-to-earth in its presentation.

And yes, I think we're going to see with WOW exactly what we saw with SW:G. Namely, tons of people who post a lot on boards going OMGOMG!!!!THIS GAME R TEH R0XX0R! I WILL /CANCEL DAOC AND NEVER COME BACK!!!!

...and three weeks later they're back with their pixellated tails between their legs going "well actually it kind of sucked"...

 

[Conchabar]

i will laugh at all of u ppl that dissed wow and when it does come out and a couple of months l8r u join it

wow will be a very good game it is made by ppl who know what there doing and have made games for a very long time for eg wc2 d2 sc. to just put a game down because of the hype is stupid.. yes swg didnt succede although they rushed production if anyone remembers.. blizzard r doing the opposite... at least we wont be still playing a beta like we r with daoc !!