WLs xD

[Calo]

Muhahaha, anything that gets people not playing that fucking idiot class is a good thing.

I always have to laugh when you talk about things being OP in daoc while you have a mincer & a bainshee.

im pretty sure if you played mid you would have a warlock or a bd.

 

[lpep]

Muhahaha, anything that gets people not playing that fucking idiot class is a good thing.

talking of idiots playing stupid classes

 

[Bonehead]

Boost heretic!!!!!

 

[Docs]

thats where the damage output becomes ridiculas because no seer unless specced DI can outheal a warlock unloading everything he has on one target.
having played rm and having played warlock its just a joke. solo like Film says makes more rps than groups so the 'warlocks ain't good for groups' argument defeats itself as they ain't needed.

I'll never defend the warlock because its insane, but I'll tell you after playing an average caster then playing a warlock it becomes almost impossible to go back, however i do find people that say warlock must be a boring class to play obviosuly haven't played one. flatten the 3fg alb zerg attacking/defending a tower in under 3 sec and tell me thats not fun .

o and best of all, no endless pve in order to compete, can actually buy some basic gear and have fun in rvr, afterall fun is why some people play afterall and not everyone enjoys killing the same mobs over and over again

Hehe, you do know thats why I consider you one of the nicest mids to play against, you play to have fun and you admit it. Rep for you

 

[Docs]

if a good wl met u 1v1 it would just nearsight u and powerless kill u

The post was related to the damage output of the two classes in response to Herjulfs post. We did not talk about playstyles or tactics.

 

[rure]

heh, seems you right, to good for being a base then, I get killed by 4 taps or so on my hero with capped resists, should just nerf it down to 50% or less then tbh, a char with that much utility shouldent be able to do that kind of damage really.

Should they nerf the hp returned to 50% or 50% of the current damage?

 

[Docs]

noone gives a fuck if a sorc dies to a warlock, really.

Well thank you for your wery constructive input in the discussion.
Perhaps you should direct your anger at Herjulf who posted the initial post in the matter?

As stated before, it was a damage comparison, if you cannot live with people responding to posts maybe these boards are not the right place for you?

Have a nice day

 

[Infanity]

Remove the lifetap.

 

[Elrandhir]

Should they nerf the hp returned to 50% or 50% of the current damage?

The damage, but I don't think they should have lifetap atall tbh.

 

[Elrandhir]

Remove the lifetap.

yeah!

 

[Succi]

How about the basebuffs

holy shit, basebuffs?!

 

[Ironfalcon]

currently when warlock uses Uninteruptable cast (self specced moc in the witchcraft line) you will still nuke for 100% damage, but at a high %age power cost. The nerf basicaly means that the UI will now work like moc(the RA) so that your damage is reduced when u use it (no timer), only difference is warlock can always use it but have to sacrifce hefty amounts of power .

and before you ask, speccing 47 in the witchcraft line to get no damage reduction is not a viable option as you would have the lvl 20ish hex spells.

Hehe.. thats why I didnt get it.. any I see your 7L2 on arumi.. nerf you. beating my sorc.. xD

but again.. you play everyday.. i've been gone for a few weeks now..

 

[Flimgoblin]

personally I'd say:

either: make all lifetaps 3.0s casting (since they're combo nukes and every other combo nuke is 3s casting)

or change the baseline lifetap to be a dd and make the sorc body spec nuke a lifetap (cabalists already get one)

Sorcs don't do insane damage but I'd agree that they do good damage + have a lot of utility, not really much more than a spiritmaster though - you can have a level 70 pet instead of a level 64 one with ML9 but you have to go and pick it up first - horses for courses etc.

 

[noaim]

holy shit, basebuffs?!

Holy shit, someone found the quotebutton but had to take the quote out of context.

lol.. change the interupt on zombierezz? thats like.. the only good thing about heretics -_-

How about basebuffs (on classic)

I would consider basebuffs on an extra class on classic a good thing, but I suppose you dont.

 

[Raven]

Boost heretic!!!!!

you dont need it!

 

[Ogen]

i got a idea make the same whit sors mezz
or put - xx% damage on overpopulated realms

of forget alb are more that others so more alb pay the game and mythic need the money

Yeah, lets remove the only real, aoe cc´er in albion! Smart thinking meijt!

And to all the warcocks! pwnd?

 

[Celestino]

@flim
what about having moc affect both spells of a combospell in addition to ur castspeed change
so 75% of the damage and 75% of the life returned for lts etc

 

[Carter]

heh, seems you right, to good for being a base then, I get killed by 4 taps or so on my hero with capped resists, should just nerf it down to 50% or less then tbh, a char with that much utility shouldent be able to do that kind of damage really.

ye right .

 

[Ogen]

heh, seems you right, to good for being a base then, I get killed by 4 taps or so on my hero with capped resists, should just nerf it down to 50% or less then tbh, a char with that much utility shouldent be able to do that kind of damage really.

Maybe your hero just really really suck?
Tbh, i think you lots should have a look at wich realms opted fg have dominated the frontiers throughout the history of daoc. If you dont know, then get a clue. If you nerf sorcs and what ? theurgs? How hard would it ever be to win vs a fg albs?

 

[Ironfalcon]

aye lets give the albs even less utility.. \o>

 

[Elrandhir]

Maybe your hero just really really suck?
Tbh, i think you lots should have a look at wich realms opted fg have dominated the frontiers throughout the history of daoc. If you dont know, then get a clue. If you nerf sorcs and what ? theurgs? How hard would it ever be to win vs a fg albs?

I have RvRed enough to see that Sorcs are way to good, I think it's you that should get a clue tbh mate.

I don't say a class is to good if they aint, whatever realm they are from.

 

[Corran]

I have RvRed enough to see that Sorcs are way to good, I think it's you that should get a clue tbh mate.

I don't say a class is to good if they aint, whatever realm they are from.

Only time a sorc is too good is when played by a good player, and then most good players make most classes look too good...

Then you compare them to say a warlock, which is too good when played by a fucking nodding dog!

 

[Dorin]

I have RvRed enough to see that Sorcs are way to good, I think it's you that should get a clue tbh mate.

I don't say a class is to good if they aint, whatever realm they are from.

you nerf sorc, you nerf whole albion tho :đ

 

[rure]

The damage, but I don't think they should have lifetap atall tbh.

Assuming you have 2300ish hp on your hero without the moose thingy and you say it takes a sorc to kill you in 4 hits the sorc have to nuke for 575 damage each hit. Either you have pure and utter shit resists (which is no argument for nerfing another class because you gimped your own char) and no warden in group or you just talk bullshit because you dont see a sorc nuke for 575 damage without debuff.

 

[Septina]

Assuming you have 2300ish hp on your hero without the moose thingy and you say it takes a sorc to kill you in 4 hits the sorc have to nuke for 575 damage each hit. Either you have pure and utter shit resists (which is no argument for nerfing another class because you gimped your own char) and no warden in group or you just talk bullshit because you dont see a sorc nuke for 575 damage without debuff.

You do with 3 relics, mom5 and rr10 :<

 

[Elrandhir]

Only time a sorc is too good is when played by a good player, and then most good players make most classes look too good...

Then you compare them to say a warlock, which is too good when played by a fucking nodding dog!

Not really, I see when a class is played good, and yeah surely a sorc can be played good, still it dosent really change my previous post.

 

[Septina]

Not really, I see when a class is played good, and yeah surely a sorc can be played good, still it dosent really change my previous post.

Doesnt change what corran said either.
A sorc played by an utter shit player wont accomplish much.
A warlock played by an utter shit player will still be able to kill 1 or 2 people vs whatever he comes up against.

 

[Elrandhir]

Assuming you have 2300ish hp on your hero without the moose thingy and you say it takes a sorc to kill you in 4 hits the sorc have to nuke for 575 damage each hit. Either you have pure and utter shit resists (which is no argument for nerfing another class because you gimped your own char) and no warden in group or you just talk bullshit because you dont see a sorc nuke for 575 damage without debuff.

My resists are capped, and I checked how many nukes he did as I thought I went down so fast, actually seemed like 3 nukes from how fast it went, but when checking it was 4.

tbh I don't care what you say because I know how it was and that my hero is more or less capped in every way.

wish I had taken some screens, because it's rather silly.

 

[Elrandhir]

Doesnt change what corran said either.
A sorc played by an utter shit player wont accomplish much.
A warlock played by an utter shit player will still be able to kill 1 or 2 people vs whatever he comes up against.

concerning that class I don't think so tbh, haveing played several mage classes, and if I had what the sorc has I don't think it would be hard killing whatever.

 

[Septina]

My resists are capped, and I checked how many nukes he did as I thought I went down so fast, actually seemed like 3 nukes from how fast it went, but when checking it was 4.

tbh I don't care what you say because I know how it was and that my hero is more or less capped in every way.

wish I had taken some screens, because it's rather silly.

What rr on the sorc? Relic status?
He could have got a few lucky crits.

And you do realise most sorcs have red str/con debuff so he can shug away a couple of hundred hp from you.