Will the Hibbs join the fun in RvR now ?

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Falcon

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Teador you whine about your sorc being interrupted, you have quickcast, MoC, and uber high caster dex how the hell do you think bards feel? Oh, sorry they get insta-mezz once every few fights to protect them for 3secs against det and capped resists.

Wizard survivability crap? Er, BoF, Cleric AF buff, uninteruptable end regen (I think at least?), wish us chanters had that kind of protection. Chanter more protection with stun, it really IS a while since you played Hib isn't it, how long do you think 9 sec stun lasts on tanks nowadays? Not long enough to get out of melee range put it that way.
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by Dook_Pug
I just think Caster groups are harder ATM. ;>

from what i've seen of your caster groups it's been instant mezz run in moc pbaoe.


yes, very hard.
 
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Xeanor

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Originally posted by Tacticus
afaik you made #1 chanter in NP teador :-p
was rr6 already when i joined NP and was first chanter to rr6 :)
 
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chiefbootknocka

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Xeanor u didnt even use attackspeed debuff.

HEHE
 
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Xeanor

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i'm never interrupted by chanters atm, so none of the current ones do either.
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by chiefbootknocka
Xeanor u didnt even use attackspeed debuff.

HEHE

was no need for that back then, when all you bards abused the broken timer on amnesia xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
 
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stunned

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Originally posted by Xeanor
i'm never interrupted by chanters atm, so none of the current ones do either.

I tested aoe debuff in duel today and it still interrupted.
Was supposed to be fixed in 1.62 but obviosuly its not.
 
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Xeanor

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Originally posted by stunned
I tested aoe debuff in duel today and it still interrupted.
Was supposed to be fixed in 1.62 but obviosuly its not.

I was saying that noone uses it.
 
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zapzap

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Originally posted by stunned
I tested aoe debuff in duel today and it still interrupted.
Was supposed to be fixed in 1.62 but obviosuly its not.

It only interrups if someone is spaming.

Zapsi
 
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Dook_Pug

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Originally posted by old.Atrox
from what i've seen of your caster groups it's been instant mezz run in moc pbaoe.


yes, very hard.

Tsk tsk Xorta.

You had to lie just to get a post in that was on-topic eh? :p

Redb almost never uses insta mezz so um, lies! :p
 
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stunned

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Originally posted by Xeanor
I was saying that noone uses it.

I am ... its usually the only spell I can use when healers aoe spam amnesia at 2300 range and non assisting savages pwns our casters.
 
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Yussef

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Merc: Applying DT on enemy tanks to prevent more damage occuring, style snares, assisting, applying intercept

Armsman: Style snares, assisting, slam, guard changing, applying intercept

Paladin: Style snares, assisting, slam, interrupting with taunt, guard changing, applying intercept, twisting

Reaver: Style snares, assisting, slam, interrupting with DD's/dot, using auras, applying intercept, guard changing

Some example roles, not just /assist
 
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Qte Eth

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yeh u can describe a lot what tanks do on paper but in game its same old assist stick spam styles ,for ma add selecting a target , and good guarders ?~ i might have missed something but not many of those kind i ever saw,and intercept ..uhm ~
 
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Yussef

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Originally posted by faderullan
Style snares? Ever heard of prevent flight?

Not every Merc has PF, and not every offensive tank bothers with defending, some do. Depends on the player. Usually can expect a high RR Merc to have PF, yes.
 
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Yussef

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Originally posted by Qte Eth
yeh u can describe a lot what tanks do on paper but in game its same old assist stick spam styles ,for ma add selecting a target , and good guarders ?~ i might have missed something but not many of those kind i ever saw,and intercept ..uhm ~

First thing I do when joining a group, is to apply intercept + guard. I always swap guard when the situation arises, in PvE and RvR, the same with intercept.

On paper is no excuse really, all the tools a caster has are not always used. A good caster will use them all, the same way a good tank will use all his tools.
 
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Carnalito

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Originally posted by ilum
The stuff about never using instamezz wasn't in same post. Anyway, an Alb group never has more than 3 Determination tanks, sometimes 2 mercs and 1 friar. Tbh when you get the group mezzed you should be able to cope with it lasting 5-15 secs on 2-3 of the group.

what about the sorc nerf-mezz thingy ? :>
 
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Xeanor

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Originally posted by Carnalito
what about the sorc nerf-mezz thingy ? :>

It's 10%, or 15% if you want to gimp your sorc, it basically doesn't do shit.
 
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Qte Eth

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u know order in which it is applyed to determ&resist?
 
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Lochlyessa

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Red con heal0r single mez lasted 19 secs on me the other day, that's with 45% body and 10% mez reduce, so Oo
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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your nukes get resisted 24/7, debuffs even worse, outright resists all the time etc.

wtf is this supposed to mean? o-O

Also, an alb pbaoe group is impossible.

To make hibs work the best setup (imo anyway)

bard
druid
druid
hero
manachanter
manachanter
manaeld
voideld

that gives you 3 x pbaoe, a 50% energy debuff and aoe str/con debuff - 4 classes

Mids

basically just need a healer who knows how to use aoe stun and two supp sm's - 3 classes, leaving you with 5 more spots to do with what u wish, you could even have some fotm savages in there too!

alb

ice wiz
ice wiz
body sorc
mind sorc
cleric
cleric
minst
pala

this group would then have 2 x pbaoe, aoe str/con and a 50% cold debuff, however ideally 3 pbaoe'rs is best, unless like mid you got aoe stun. also, lacking insta mez means u cannot fight enemies if neither gets the element of suprise - the only way it will work is if u get the drop on them, and even then it is testy with only 2 x pbaoe.
 

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