Will the Hibbs join the fun in RvR now ?

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by Xeanor
if you really think the tanks are the only ones who make the group win then you're seriously wrong

if you bard fucks up you can group purge and just box up with your pbae, maybe even moc

if i fuck up my mezz we're just screwed

If our Bard fucks up we're dead vs. a good MA group. No mezz = Chanters go down in 2/3 seconds. It's almost IMPOSSIBLE to heal against.

Having said that, all is not as dire as I've made it sound. We do stand a running chance if MoC/GP is up but c'mon... We shouldn't have to rely on 30min RAs to stand a chance vs. a specific group setup.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Yeah well we all know mythic hate's casters :/

 

[Qte Eth]

ur GP is on 15 timer and baod on 10 quite easy~
and our ae insta mes/stun are on 10min timer too

and well pbae grps are screwed wo good mes ,unlike tank when u almost dont care who mes first

 

[stunned]

You dont have to be special to do it. But its alot more difficult, and fun ( imo ), to play a hib castergroup and win, then a tank heavy meelegroup.

Having seen both sides. And tbh I never thought it would be so depressing at times playing hib, not only due to population issuses.

Gp and boad 30 mins timer btw, know your enemy.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

GP on 30 min timer. My druid has it.

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug
If our Bard fucks up we're dead vs. a good MA group. No mezz = Chanters go down in 2/3 seconds. It's almost IMPOSSIBLE to heal against.

Having said that, all is not as dire as I've made it sound. We do stand a running chance if MoC/GP is up but c'mon... We shouldn't have to rely on 30min RAs to stand a chance vs. a specific group setup.

How can you fuck up something thats insta-cast? Like Sycho said...even if you do get mezzed, just purge or group purge and instamezz...

 

[Tacticus]

think Q is referring to the fact that we always run 2 druids. We dont however run 3 chanters, as aoe str/con debuff of mana eld is more important.

We have been doing 4 pbaoe groups at times tho and then baod is on a 10 min timer yeah. But Baod pretty much only useful against MM and to reduce mezz duration, but mezz duration means nothing against melee grps, you get mezzed, you GP or die.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by ilum
How can you fuck up something thats insta-cast? Like Sycho said...even if you do get mezzed, just purge or group purge and instamezz...

Would have helped if you'd read the whole post.

Here, I'll help ya...

Originally posted by Dook_Pug
Our Bard almost -never- used insta mezz.

Don't see the big deal in it, against Det4 FotM Tank groups it lasts like what? 15 seconds? SO overrated.

 

[Tacticus]

Originally posted by ilum
How can you fuck up something thats insta-cast? Like Sycho said...even if you do get mezzed, just purge or group purge and instamezz...

Insta mezz lasts for a few seconds on a tank group. No point even bothering with it, you land castable or you feked. I cant imagine how it must be to cope with a bard who can only get off instas.

 

[old.mattshanes]

So when classes like a merc finally get rvr groups people whine, when albs make a decent fg and give decent fights they still do....

What would you do if albs made a decent caster fg,used MA and debuff nuked and killed you in similar times a tank group would?but then again i forgot they probably would be instant cc'ed xD

Try an alb caster group on another server vs instant cc and tell me how well you do

 

[Gamah]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
So when classes like a merc finally get rvr groups people whine, when albs make a decent fg and give decent fights they still do....

What would you do if albs made a decent caster fg,used MA and debuff nuked and killed you in similar times a tank group would?but then again i forgot they probably would be instant cc'ed xD

Try an alb caster group on another server vs instant cc and tell me how well you do

Cry more whiney bi*ch ;ppppp

 

[old.mattshanes]

Fuck off cuntface shitbrain slagshit cunt

 

[Gamah]

kthxdie

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
So when classes like a merc finally get rvr groups people whine, when albs make a decent fg and give decent fights they still do....

What would you do if albs made a decent caster fg,used MA and debuff nuked and killed you in similar times a tank group would?but then again i forgot they probably would be instant cc'ed xD

Try an alb caster group on another server vs instant cc and tell me how well you do

It's not an Alb whine.

It's a Tank whine in general tbh but yea, Alb FotM Tank groups must die!!1

 

[old.mattshanes]

Dook i am sure you would rather face an alb tank group than rather a mid one with 3 healers and 3 savages?

 

[Gamah]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Dook i am blah blah blah blahblahbalahbalah

Really intresting comment!

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Dook i am sure you would rather face an alb tank group than rather a mid one with 3 healers and 3 savages?

Depends.

Only Mid Tank group I fear is Warders because each player in the group can think for themselves.

Apart from that... nib

 

[Xeanor]

Dook don't talk crap, you very well know our tanks can think for their own. They actually don't assist most of the times when needed. (which Faderullan was whining about, not everyone assisting)

We killed your group a few times today and every time you made the same mistake of boxing up and trying to pbaoe but failing mostly because of interrupting, while our clerics are just healing any damage and i can spam mezz/ae root. This worked for NP because they had a debuffer and their Bard actually screwed up every spell of mine.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by Xeanor
Dook don't talk crap, you very well know our tanks can think for their own. They actually don't assist most of the times when needed. (which Faderullan was whining about, not everyone assisting)

We killed your group a few times today and every time you made the same mistake of boxing up and trying to pbaoe but failing mostly because of interrupting, while our clerics are just healing any damage and i can spam mezz/ae root. This worked for NP because they had a debuffer and their Bard actually screwed up every spell of mine.

I was talking about PE?

And today we played absolutely terrible. Pretty much everyone we ran into owned us, just one of those days.

Wasn't 1Fg Eclipse either, never is these days. :<

 

[Xeanor]

PE/FL hardly ever run full guild-groups too.

Usually a mix of both.

And we still manage well with our gimp mezzer in cloth and no other CC.

Or do you mean that if you don't have a fg Eclipse it's totally shit?

 

[Dook_Pug]

We usually have mebbe 5 Ecli in group and then have to pick up random PBAoE/Chanters.

Considering they're really our only form of damage that's not a good thing. :|

 

[Xeanor]

So the only good damage dealers are in Eclipse?

If i want to make a group i usually just make it of what's possible to get. If there's only 3 from my own guild online I still try.

 

[Dook_Pug]

LOL, who said that?

There are very few GOOD Enchanters/Mana Eldritches in Hib that we like to play with.

Dunno where the fuck that comment came from tbh. Heh.

 

[Xeanor]

I said that, it was a question.

And I didn't really see any low RR damage dealers in your group today.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Since when did RR become an indicator of skill/compatability with a group?

 

[Xeanor]

You see many players playing to rr6/7+ when noone likes to have them in group/they suck?

Guess why there's just 2 RR7 sorcerers.

 

[Dook_Pug]

I could name a few lol

But that's not the point. When you run together 24/7 with a group you develop a certain 'style' in the way that you RvR.

You instinctively know your groups strengths and weaknessed and compensate for them.

When you have to break that routine and invite people who you aren't used to grouping with that style becomes unbalanced and you find yourself overextended in alot of ways.

Yes, the good groups allow for this and can compensate but in mage groups, when you rely on said characters to kill it can be a little harder.

 

[Xeanor]

To be very honest, you don't/shouldn't need a "style" to win a fight, just have the good players, the necessary RR's for some RA's and some luck with you.

Having made RR7 two hours ago I'm actually surprised I haven't given up yet while I have to gather people from everywhere each day to get a group.

 

[Qte Eth]

agree with dook,and xeanor ur teamplay inst too good if u dont undersand what he says

 

[Xeanor]

Of course our teamplay isn't too good if we have different group each day.

I never have the same group, it's different every day. Compared to MM which always seem to have the same players. (Qteeth/Gandy/Valle/Miracle)