Wild West Mafia, Game#1

Levin

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Why the hell did they kill Gohan? What had that old man done?

And Golena.. damn shame on such fine legs. I reckon she paid the price for her deeds, and the lord will judge her.

Anyway... i reckon whoever did this might be among those of us who shot her too. She seemed kinda surprised and well, upset! Or maybe she was just upset her lover didn't stop us?

Oh here's an idea.. can't we make everyone write something, and compare those handstyles with the note? It'd be just like that feller in the old country.. Sherlock Holmes!
 

Uara

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Golena paid the price for stealing our gold, she may have been a beauty but deep down she was a jezebel. All we need to do is find the last bandit and torture 'im until he tells us where our wealth is.

Its a shame we lost old man Gohan,I would have thought that the sheriff would have kept an eye on the old fella. Thats a rather weird reaction by Eca, but nothing really to give a reason to Lynch.
 

Levin

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Actually that is an interesting point. ECA why did you think you'd be killed?
 

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Declaring innocence didn't help that there black John Thomas we did there hang last month over the whole vegetable sodomy epidemic. I am nout but simple townfolk and whiskey has rotted away the wit to respond with reason, you yourself have not expressed any reason I can fathom as to why I should face the gallows.
 

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Actually that is an interesting point. ECA why did you think you'd be killed?

Given that I laid out the case for hanging Golena I felt that it was pretty obvious that I'm the only "safe" person at the moment, thus killing me would make the game tougher for the town.


Ofc we cant have simple facts when tohts around.

I think I'm going to vote for Calo on the basis of his non vote and his "have we ever caught a villain this early" speech.

vote Calo
 

old.Tohtori

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Given that I laid out the case for hanging Golena I felt that it was pretty obvious that I'm the only "safe" person at the moment, thus killing me would make the game tougher for the town.

Ofc we cant have simple facts when tohts around.

Facts can be heard, but you must speak them. I'm no obstacle for "facts" as you call them. I threw a doubt at you, and you, until now, neglected to answer it at all.

Your defence is contradictory though sir. If looked at from different angle, that would be perfect as an alibi and how on earth, if you don't mind me asking, does starting a vote make you "safe"?
 

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*sniff*

Come see me when you got something sensible to say kids, let me mourn my friend in peace.
 

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Given that I laid out the case for hanging Golena I felt that it was pretty obvious that I'm the only "safe" person at the moment, thus killing me would make the game tougher for the town.


Ofc we cant have simple facts when tohts around.

I think I'm going to vote for Calo on the basis of his non vote and his "have we ever caught a villain this early" speech.

vote Calo

lol the case for hanging golena?

more like, hey who's inactive now, lets vote him!

and don't you think that it would be a bit stupid to make myself suspicious by not voting?
I actually thought this was comming as soon as i saw golena turning out to be a bandit!

You are just way to triggerhappy and i think voting golena was a pure luck.

vote : ECA
 

ECA

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It looks like we cant get a concensus going, so I'd like to make my point that

A) inactives make a game tougher for all sides and make it more boring
B) we either kill an inactive and make them be more interesting in future games, or we nolynch in which case an inactive survives and tomorrow the game takes even longer and is more boring.

Don't think attacking inactive ones is that smart tbh
Sure, they might be quiet

Have we EVER seen a mafia being killed because he was inactive?
And no, ofcourse that doesn't mean anything but i'd rather put a vote out on somebody who gives me the impression that he's not clean then just see at the end of every day who posted least and then vote him off.



Your defence of Golena.

You also have not contributed very much to our hunt for varmints very much.
 

Ch3tan

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Wills theory works for me, I too am suspicoous of those that voted last. I would have said something sooner, but I got called into duty to bring death to poor Golena :(

vote RandomBandit
 

Olgaline

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Voting ECA: Tohtori, Calo
Voting RandomBastard: Will, Ch3tan
Voting Will: RandomBastard
Voting Calo: ECA

Not yet casted a Vote: Levin, Iceforge, Uara, Downaneal, Rubric, Jimmy
 

Levin

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Saying that those who killed Golena off by voting late are suspicious seems odd to me. Why kill Golena off when there was an Iceforge trying to save her? Random could have just tried to build on Iceforge's argument? Yes, i'm one of those who voted late also, and no i won't vote with you on Randombastard based on those grounds. It would be kind of hypocrite of me since I could just as well vote for myself then! If people are going to be afraid to put those last votes, we're not going to be able to hang a lot of people around here and I don't see how that would serve us.

Did you have anything else on Randombastard or was it just the "you voted late" thing? Otherwise I am interested in why Iceforge was trying to save Golena there. Though I do admit it would have been a bit too obvious if he's the second bandit.
 

Ch3tan

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Oh dear, old age seems to have deprived me off some sense. I did only just realise that Golena was a scummy bandit, and worse one that opened her foul legs at every oppurtunity!

Now gohan, town mason? Are there more masons in this town hiding in plain sight?

unvote Random

Now different people look like bandits to me. With iceforge clearly topping the list!
 

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Hmmmmmm your argument does make sense Levin! Iceforge did defend Golena rather robustly. It could be the old argument of hiding in plain sight in this case by defending Golena rather robustly and then hoping we think its too obvious. Apart from that there are no obvious signs as to who's the damn bandit.
 

Ch3tan

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Well actually Young Uara, by siding so quicly with Levin after voicing his theory you make both of you look like bandits again. You are both deflecting from Wills argument without answering it.
 

Levin

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You are both deflecting from Wills argument without answering it.

Good master Ch3tan, I believe I answered it quite well in my post! It didn't make sense to me since Random or, or any of us late voters, could have built on Iceforge's argument instead of offing their own. I even added a reason why I think that kind of accusing can be dangerous! People are going to be afraid of putting late votes now for fear of being accused of "hiding their tracks".
 

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Sorry everyone, I've got to leave town for a few days for a wedding. Before I go though, I'll re-explain my argument. What better way to look innocent than to jump on a bandwagon to lynch someone you know is guilty?

I've also still got my eye on Downanael, and Rubric's talking without really saying much looks a bit sus to me too.
 

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Sorry everyone, I've got to leave town for a few days for a wedding. Before I go though, I'll re-explain my argument. What better way to look innocent than to jump on a bandwagon to lynch someone you know is guilty?

I've also still got my eye on Downanael, and Rubric's talking without really saying much looks a bit sus to me too.

your impending holiday looks suss to me.
 

Levin

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Before I go though, I'll re-explain my argument. What better way to look innocent than to jump on a bandwagon to lynch someone you know is guilty?

I understand your argument, but what you're saying is: damned if you do, damned if you don't? How will we ever lynch someone if the last voters always get accused even when the lynched was guilty??

Or the first voters for that matter?

I could easily say, what better way to avoid suspicion than voting early and start said bandwagon? Or even not vote on the partner.. and say "hey if I was guilty I wouldn't be so obvious as not to vote on my partner".

Everything can be turned into something. Should we all just hide in our houses and lock our doors and keep our mouths shut? Seems some of us are doing just that to great effect too.
 

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Oh dear, old age seems to have deprived me off some sense. I did only just realise that Golena was a scummy bandit, and worse one that opened her foul legs at every oppurtunity!

Now gohan, town mason? Are there more masons in this town hiding in plain sight?

unvote Random

Now different people look like bandits to me. With iceforge clearly topping the list!

Hmm, you forget yourself, dear Ch3tan.

I may have argumented against the bandwagoning on Golena and demanded explainations, but I wasn't even as harsh as you was against them, as I didn't vote, and now you call me suspecious for acting in the same way you did, but just to a less extent?

It seems suspecious to me that you are that quick to accuse me, putting me on the top of your list simply because you and I actually agree on this issue.

Also, the entire thing about claiming not realising Golena was a bandit scum until now could be a very devious scheme to hide your alliance with the person. Golena's partner would clearly have known all along about Golena being scum, so by playing the "I didn't even realise!" card, you could be taking a daring attempt at making people overlook you in their speculations.

so while it may seem like a simple counter attack, you now top my list quite well, well enough for this, actually;

Vote: Ch3tan
 

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lol the case for hanging golena?

more like, hey who's inactive now, lets vote him!

and don't you think that it would be a bit stupid to make myself suspicious by not voting?
I actually thought this was comming as soon as i saw golena turning out to be a bandit!

You are just way to triggerhappy and i think voting golena was a pure luck.

vote : ECA


Hmm, ain't it a bit ironic to claim Eca was just hitting pure luck voting golena and then claim they was allied bandits, which would make it anything but luck?
 

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Saying that those who killed Golena off by voting late are suspicious seems odd to me. Why kill Golena off when there was an Iceforge trying to save her? Random could have just tried to build on Iceforge's argument? Yes, i'm one of those who voted late also, and no i won't vote with you on Randombastard based on those grounds. It would be kind of hypocrite of me since I could just as well vote for myself then! If people are going to be afraid to put those last votes, we're not going to be able to hang a lot of people around here and I don't see how that would serve us.

Did you have anything else on Randombastard or was it just the "you voted late" thing? Otherwise I am interested in why Iceforge was trying to save Golena there. Though I do admit it would have been a bit too obvious if he's the second bandit.


Well, because as I said earlier in the game, I would like to gather as much evidence and clues to the true identity of the bandits so one could convict them with more certainty.

Many of those who wanted to hang and lynch Golena, that piece of scum, was actually doing so because he was an indian lover.
And while I can agree that Indians are scum and should be killed for being so uncivilized, I see no reason and no evidence that suggest that bandits are more likely to be indian lovers than regular people, thus the arguement for hanging Golena was very flawed.
It turned out people was right and we got one of those bandits scum, but we might as well have ended up killing a poor innocent settler. It might have been you or me, Levin. If it had been you who had, for whatever insane reason, said something good about indians and then people wanted you dead, would you not have wanted someone to try and reason with people?

We can kill indians lovers at any time we want! Right now we got some Bandits, murdering stealing bandits at that, to punish for their vile deeds on Mrs.Olga and Gohan and stealing our money!
We punished one! At least 1 to go!
 

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I think the non-voters are more likely to be bandit scum than late voters.

Its kinda unlikely to hit a bandit on day one, so we definately got lucky, I would be more inclined to look at those who

A) did not vote
B) those who jumped on my golena vote early, assuming it would fail and we'd have a nolynch but their vote might give them cover later.

( low correspondance and no vote is why I'm voting Calo ).
 

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I think the non-voters are more likely to be bandit scum than late voters.

Its kinda unlikely to hit a bandit on day one, so we definately got lucky, I would be more inclined to look at those who

A) did not vote
B) those who jumped on my golena vote early, assuming it would fail and we'd have a nolynch but their vote might give them cover later.

( low correspondance and no vote is why I'm voting Calo ).

But I had the chance to vote on golena when there were 2 or 3 votes left to go, why would i make myself suspicious with not voting?
I didn't vote because i wasn't sure he was scummy, i mean the indian lover thing was a bit flawed don't you think?

We can all agree that we hitted a bandit with a bit of luck! which is great ofcourse!

tbh, i think the other bandit will keep quiet now
 

old.Tohtori

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Right now we got some Bandits, murdering stealing bandits at that, to punish for their vile deeds on Mrs.Olga and Gohan and stealing our money!

I have to ask sir, how do you know these bandits ain't working for the indians? Big assumption i'd say to remove the indians completely from the equation. Especially since the last words out of our first kill were, indian.

But, nevermind that.

I'm more concerned about your statement, that we can kill indian lovers anytime, giving the clear assumption that you hate indians and indian lovers, but still were adament against hanging one.
 

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Oh and Unvote: ECA, i'm quite puzzled at the moment at all the claims, need to read the secretarys writings.
 

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I have to ask sir, how do you know these bandits ain't working for the indians? Big assumption i'd say to remove the indians completely from the equation. Especially since the last words out of our first kill were, indian.

But, nevermind that.

I'm more concerned about your statement, that we can kill indian lovers anytime, giving the clear assumption that you hate indians and indian lovers, but still were adament against hanging one.


Well, to be honest, indians lovers don't make my blood boil, but I can see why people want them hung at times, specially if you just lost some family to those savages and then someone says that the same savages are so nature friendly and wise; That'll make anybodies blood boil!

But while anoying and mislead to love the indians, they do NOT put me in danger. Indians might, but you never know when those sneaky bastards will strike, but surely those bandits have shown that they are right here hidding as normal settlers and that they are willing to kill to get away with their stolen treasures; So I find it much more pressing to lynch the bandits than lynching some indian lovers!

And the bandits might be connected with Indian savages, but doesn't mean we shouldn't kill the bandits and focus on them any less now, does it?
 

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It is abit weird how we managed to get bandit down on firs day,maybe Tohtori had planned this all along so we would trust him and not vote on him.

So i say Vote: Tohtori
 

Olgaline

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ECA: - 1 - ( Calo, )
Will: -1 - ( RandomBastard, )
Calo: - 1 - ( ECA, )
Ch3tan: - 1 - ( Iceforge, )
Tohtori: - 1 - ( Downaneal, )
RandomBastard: - 1 - ( Will, )

Not voting: 6 ( Levin, Uara, Rubric, Jimmy, Ch3tan, Tohtori, )

With 12 Alive it takes 7 to Lynch
 

Uara

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lol so many arguments, so little time :p Well Down I don't think Toht is the bandit, i'm pretty sure he wouldnt sacrifice his compatriot so openly, I think we may just be catching a bit of his conspiracy theories/paranoia!!

The problem being if we accuse everyone of voting late that they are the bandits then people are not going to vote then because they'll be worried at the next round about being the next target. What stops the bandit from being one of the early voters.

Too many arguments to consider after a hard day down the mine-shaft i'm going to have to re-assess them over a whisky and see if i can come to any conclusions!
 

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