Why is Midgard SUCH EASY MODE ???!

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ialkarn

powerlvl a char whit a necro 45-50 even whit a buffbot it's damn long and boring.
Nothing compared to a pbaoe group whit aoe stun. [/B]

funny without a buffbot my necro pl'd my scout to 50 in 4 days /played, i dont call that long and boring as well as the 20+ plat i made from it

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by Rollie
funny without a buffbot my necro pl'd my scout to 50 in 4 days /played, i dont call that long and boring as well as the 20+ plat i made from it

Funny another guy used to whine about Midgard ,now rerolled the fotm realm and he is ready to shot at whining Albs.

 

[tildson]

Thats not a whine its just a stated fact, necro pl is probably the fastest way of pl'ing something. Unless u setup a pbae-group with 3-wizards 20-50 and do AC 40+.

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by tildson
Thats not a whine its just a stated fact, necro pl is probably the fastest way of pl'ing something. Unless u setup a pbae-group with 3-wizards 20-50 and do AC 40+.

If you read what I wrote I just said xp in midgard it's EASIER
and Mid pbaoe groups and Malmo Xp is aloot faster,easier and more remunerative than alb way to xp.

Yes xp in AC or solo whit necro is slower than the common way to XP in midgard.

I said TG>SIDI cause faster respawn and easier mobs at entrance.


And Once again I was talking about the general tendence of the realm not about what a super powerplayer group of full time players does.

Oh yes I mispelled TG whit TS,do you have better arguments than that?

 

[tildson]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
If you read what I wrote I just said xp in midgard it's EASIER
and Mid pbaoe groups and Malmo Xp is aloot faster,easier and more remunerative than alb way to xp.

Yes xp in AC or solo whit necro is slower than the common way to XP in midgard.

And Once again I was talking about the general tendence of the realm not about what a super powerplayer group of full time players does.

Oh yes I mispelled TG whit TS,do you have better arguments than that?

I meant your comments on Rollie, where he stated that necro pl isnt that bad - he didnt mentioned that mid is faster because he probably agree.

And where did i EVER hacked on you for mis-spelling? What's wrong with you, calm down for gods sake!

 

[hotrat]

Zerkers was far more powerful than Savages are, but it seems to me, Midgard got "overpowered" when Savages arrived.

Nah they were overpowered as soon as shaman got end regen (and to some extent pbae disease and asd).

Like soruzi says a good mid group could still perform well with zerkers instead of savages, its the support that counts and atm healer/shamans are the best support in the game!

Another thing I noticed which is nice for mids is skald speed in combat.

As for albs playing flawless and owning everything it can be true, especially with all the RA's up. However you get a fight where SoS is down, sorc gets a mezz from bolt range while tanks charge in, but the sorc is spotted, insta mezzed and charged by 4 tanks. Cleric hits bof, sorc tries qc ae mezz, gets a resist on one tank, another tank purges, a third was immune from your first mezz which already has ran out (det 5). Pala can't guard he is needed 1500 range away with the tanks. Sorc dies, clerics cant rez cus healers are spamming asd, tanks move onto the cleric with no worry of being cc'd except for minstrel mezz.
Its so important for a sorc to be alive as they are the only class that can stop the enemy tanks hitting their clerics.

At this point if it was mids and they lost their pac healer, both other healers have got ST mezz, and shaman has ae root, ST root, and the all powerful disease.

Most battles go like this: mezz at first, tanks wait 5-10 secs then charge on, support usually one purges and demezzes the rest. In a fight between 2 good groups its very rare somone is mezzed for more than 10 seconds on either side. Now maybe a few tanks are rooted, but again wait 5 secs and they are off.
So we are now 15 secs into the fight with all tanks immune to mezz/root and support immune to mezz. At this point a sorc just kites and debuffs and interupts with their pet. They have to try and stay alive until the mezz immunity wears off.
Now its at this point in the fight where the mids gain a huge advantage, not only an extra healing class (pac healer) but also a third form of cc to apply to the tanks (disease), and thats why mid is the best realm atm.
Like I said before, albs rely a lot more on mezz as they have the longest and easiest to use version, however det 5 removes that advantage, and a sorc becomes very redunadant vs mids.

 

[infozwerg]

Originally posted by loxleyhood
Have you ever seen how a piece-meal mid group played by gapped-toothed hill billies can acheive the same thing?

i have seen 3 savages, 3 healers, a shaman, a skald, 2 shadowblades and a hunter die vs our fg.

our theurg died once.

we had sos and 2*bof ready after the fight.

midgard owns 2 strenght and 2 power relics on dartmoor.

 

[ulke]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
Yes Pbaoe Hibs groups are very effective,but their tanks groups can't be compared to Mid tanks groups.

Every realms got a strong face and a weak face,the point is I don't see the weak side of Midgard at all

bard druid*2(3 ??) hero 4 (3)bm's is a real nice grp, 5 det5 tanks in one grp...hmm....

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by hotrat
Nah they were overpowered as soon as shaman got end regen (and to some extent pbae disease and asd).

Like soruzi says a good mid group could still perform well with zerkers instead of savages, its the support that counts and atm healer/shamans are the best support in the game!

Another thing I noticed which is nice for mids is skald speed in combat.

As for albs playing flawless and owning everything it can be true, especially with all the RA's up. However you get a fight where SoS is down, sorc gets a mezz from bolt range while tanks charge in, but the sorc is spotted, insta mezzed and charged by 4 tanks. Cleric hits bof, sorc tries qc ae mezz, gets a resist on one tank, another tank purges, a third was immune from your first mezz which already has ran out (det 5). Pala can't guard he is needed 1500 range away with the tanks. Sorc dies, clerics cant rez cus healers are spamming asd, tanks move onto the cleric with no worry of being cc'd except for minstrel mezz.
Its so important for a sorc to be alive as they are the only class that can stop the enemy tanks hitting their clerics.

At this point if it was mids and they lost their pac healer, both other healers have got ST mezz, and shaman has ae root, ST root, and the all powerful disease.

Most battles go like this: mezz at first, tanks wait 5-10 secs then charge on, support usually one purges and demezzes the rest. In a fight between 2 good groups its very rare somone is mezzed for more than 10 seconds on either side. Now maybe a few tanks are rooted, but again wait 5 secs and they are off.
So we are now 15 secs into the fight with all tanks immune to mezz/root and support immune to mezz. At this point a sorc just kites and debuffs and interupts with their pet. They have to try and stay alive until the mezz immunity wears off.
Now its at this point in the fight where the mids gain a huge advantage, not only an extra healing class (pac healer) but also a third form of cc to apply to the tanks (disease), and thats why mid is the best realm atm.
Like I said before, albs rely a lot more on mezz as they have the longest and easiest to use version, however det 5 removes that advantage, and a sorc becomes very redunadant vs mids.

i meant that a poor played alb/hibb grp will loose nomatter what, you could basicly have thanes in the grp too and still win majority of the fights, sure you would loose some just because they are thanes, but wins would still be alot higher

 

[sorusi]

Its so important for a sorc to be alive as they are the only class that can stop the enemy tanks hitting their clerics.


no you have the sorc to win vs zerg-noobs sorc does basicly nothing more than run like a rabbit and str/con debuff vs good fgs.. mezz and root is useless vs deter5... after the first mezz/root/str/con is casted he is useless..

sorc is very important vs hibb pbaoe box tho.. but totally meaningless vs a good melee grp

 

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[sorusi]

Originally posted by sorusi
Its so important for a sorc to be alive as they are the only class that can stop the enemy tanks hitting their clerics.


no you have the sorc to win vs zerg-noobs sorc does basicly nothing more than run like a rabbit and str/con debuff vs good fgs.. mezz and root is useless vs deter5... after the first mezz/root/str/con is casted he is useless..

sorc is very important vs hibb pbaoe box tho.. but totally meaningless vs a good melee grp

tanks wait 5-10 secs then charge on - why would a tank wait...?

and vs that "good" midd fg (most are randoms, they die before mezz wears off on the grp - or should if well played) use sos and you allmost have an insta win, 3thrust mercs + paladin + minstrel on each target assisting.

and the 2nd "good" fg you could blow bof to give your clerics a chance to survive while you kill ther healers.. also relys on that sorc get any form of cast off.. he sucks if he cant..

and in emain there are only 1 - 3 good midd grps.. and ~1 - 2 hibb grps dont need the grp RA's vs hibbs if you play it right..

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by sorusi
tanks wait 5-10 secs then charge on - why would a tank wait...?

cus they are mezzed

Yer true sorc is pretty useless, but thats exactly my point!

Im saying even a well played alb group will lose if SoS is down, cus less healing power and no disease!

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by sorusi
and vs that "good" midd fg (most are randoms, they die before mezz wears off on the grp - or should if well played) use sos and you allmost have an insta win, 3thrust mercs + paladin + minstrel on each target assisting.

and the 2nd "good" fg you could blow bof to give your clerics a chance to survive while you kill ther healers.. also relys on that sorc get any form of cast off.. he sucks if he cant..

and in emain there are only 1 - 3 good midd grps.. and ~1 - 2 hibb grps dont need the grp RA's vs hibbs if you play it right..

Yer SoS makes it easier, but PR can keep the mids alive just long enough until SoS runs out, usually a good fight though for sure

and without SoS, well you say sorc should cast, but you say sorc is useless maybe a few debuffs and pet interupt and stay out of melee range is best for sorc i think.

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by hotrat
Yer SoS makes it easier, but PR can keep the mids alive just long enough until SoS runs out, usually a good fight though for sure

and without SoS, well you say sorc should cast, but you say sorc is useless maybe a few debuffs and pet interupt and stay out of melee range is best for sorc i think.

pr = unbuffed healer.. just need to hit them with a bambo stick to kill them :x


takes that assist team 1hit each to kill it and usually all 3 PR's arent up

 

[schinkaar]

Sorry hotrats the fight you described doesnt apply to excali.

This is more like a fight vs albs:
1) they get mezzed
2) sorc dies
3) alb tanks start hitting shammie
4) 2 healers chainheal shammie
5) 1st cleric drops
6) 2nd clerics drops
7) minstrel drops
8) healers go low on power
9) tanks drop.

I dunno about how it is on other servers but my guess is PE:s fights doesnt look like that. Maybe its due to bad mids, maybe its due to them being better. But anyone saying theres a alb group playing perfect on excal dont know what he is talking about.
I mean you do manage to loose with SoS and 2x BoF, dont you think theres just a slight chance ur doing something wrong then?

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
Funny another guy used to whine about Midgard ,now rerolled the fotm realm and he is ready to shot at whining Albs.

no i corrected someone who was talking shit, which you was regarding the nerco, you know im right or you would have posted something regarding necro's, instead you just post some shit regarding me not playing alb.

 

[Asha]

Originally posted by sorusi
pr = unbuffed healer.. just need to hit them with a bambo stick to kill them :x


takes that assist team 1hit each to kill it and usually all 3 PR's arent up

plz that is so not true. You have 2 other healers with instas, a shammie (ok I know he's crap healing but it's better than nothing) and all three should have some con thx to the bbot epidemic.

If that was the case sorusi then why do all NP healers have PR? For PvE?

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by Rollie
no i corrected someone who was talking shit, which you was regarding the nerco, you know im right or you would have posted something regarding necro's, instead you just post some shit regarding me not playing alb.

I said Xping whit necro it's SLOWER than Pbaoe groups in Malmo.

I said also xp 45-50 whit a necro it's slow and boring (repetitive, complicate (you need 3 accounts),you usually find the spots overcamped ,and not as fast than kill 3-5 purples mobs,or aloot more whit no downtime),and it's what I think.

The shit regarding you? It's just the truth,you crossed the line and got the Sorusi's syndrome.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
I said Xping whit necro it's SLOWER than Pbaoe groups in Malmo.

I said also xp 45-50 whit a necro it's slow and boring (repetitive, complicate (you need 3 accounts),you usually find the spots overcamped ,and not as fast than kill 3-5 purples mobs,or aloot more whit no downtime),and it's what I think.

The shit regarding you? It's just the truth,you crossed the line and got the Sorusi's syndrome.

Your clueless, xp in general is boring, necro's are very fast and you earn ALOT of cash, you need 2 accounts necro+pl char, with 3 accounts it would be shorter /played time to 50 for pl char, spots overcamped? nope u just have to get up early to get the spots, just like you have to get up early to get lair group, with necro you can chain pull 2 oranges at a time with no Dt at all.

you can focus pull in alb easy enough to xp, 1 cabbie, 4 ice wizzies, 1 minstrel or sorc and 2 clerics, pull 4-5 purps each time easy, but people like you who are clueless will never change just bitch about stuff you dont understand.

 

[old.Lethul]

hmm, midgard easy mode? looks like hib is easy mode to me... duskwave etc

 

[inabus]

Hmmm

Something to take into consideration in Alb groups on Pry is that there dont seem to be very many clerics in Random groups.

In all the random groups I have been in I dont think I have actually had a cleric in one. The main healer is, if your lucky, a friar who generally has about 10 in rej!

Where are all the Clerics I hear you ask, standing in apk being buffbots!

When in guild groups you see Clerics in groups but again I dont see that many around.

Does this mean Alb is bad, who knows, it just means that Random groups dont stand much of a chance in open 1fg v 1fg battles as almost all mid groups I have come up agaisnt has at least 1 healer.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by old.Lethul
hmm, midgard easy mode? looks like hib is easy mode to me... duskwave etc

aye interesting




http://www.duskwave.com/daoc/characterrank.php?server=Excalibur&realm=&order=lastweek

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by schinkaar

I mean you do manage to loose with SoS and 2x BoF, dont you think theres just a slight chance ur doing something wrong then?

bof is such a help vs enemies that are doing 300->1k dmg every 1,5 sec =)

Originally posted by schinkaar

Rerolled fotm dr00d the day svges was nerfed. Never playing nerfguard again!

owned

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by Rollie
Your clueless, xp in general is boring, necro's are very fast and you earn ALOT of cash, you need 2 accounts necro+pl char, with 3 accounts it would be shorter /played time to 50 for pl char, spots overcamped? nope u just have to get up early to get the spots, just like you have to get up early to get lair group, with necro you can chain pull 2 oranges at a time with no Dt at all.

you can focus pull in alb easy enough to xp, 1 cabbie, 4 ice wizzies, 1 minstrel or sorc and 2 clerics, pull 4-5 purps each time easy

So are you saying Xp in albion isn't harder than Midgard?

Originally posted by Rollie
but people like you who are clueless will never change just bitch about stuff you dont understand. [/B]

Better be a clueless noob than a failed who rerolled another realm cause the one was playing was too hard for him.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
So are you saying Xp in albion isn't harder than Midgard?

depending, if you have a sm/pac healer on 1 acc to get lairs groups then yes it is easier, if you dont have either of them then xp is harder cause there isnt any AC for lv40+ mids, if you want a lair group you have to be a sm/healer or shammie.

Originally posted by Ialkarn
Better be a clueless noob than a failed who rerolled another realm cause the one was playing was too hard for him.

Funny when i rolled middy, hibby was the best realm, but your right, you are a clueless noob, just like in UO

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
here your last pm:
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heheh yes mate, ive quit now i quit on saturday, sick of unbalance in the game,

anyhows bye and good luck
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Rollie - Warrior

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aye still sick of unbalance

-TiwazBot- Name: Rollie <Aegir Adventurers> Race: Kobold Class: Warrior Level: 20 RP: 0 (RR1L1) Last Week: 0 Realm: Midgard

Warrior is 50 now and still has same rp btw

-TiwazBot- Name: Morphene <Untouchables> Race: Norseman Class: Healer Level: 50 RP: 787,668 (RR5L6) Last Week: 20,544 Realm: Midgard

Thats how much i rvr, i rarely rvr now cause of unbalance and zergs but i speak from what i see your just a glottis wannabe.

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by Rollie

Funny when i rolled middy, hibby was the best realm, but your right, you are a clueless noob, just like in UO

well your main in Uo was a dexter,to ppl who dosen't know Dexter was a dispregiative for tank ,considered an inferior type of charater.

Yes I m a noob who stuck whit his guild in a realm where it's harder to win.

You are a failed who left his realm and his own guild to play easier.

 

[Rollie]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
well your main in Uo was a dexter

ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah

so clueless but so funny at the same time

 

[Ialkarn]

TiwazBot- Name: Rollie <Aegir Adventurers> Race: Kobold Class: Warrior Level: 20 RP: 0 (RR1L1) Last Week: 0 Realm: Midgard

Warrior is 50 now and still has same rp btw

-TiwazBot- Name: Morphene <Untouchables> Race: Norseman Class: Healer Level: 50 RP: 787,668 (RR5L6) Last Week: 20,544 Realm: Midgard
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