Why is Midgard SUCH EASY MODE ???!

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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Hmmm - so Albs get their balance on 30 minute timers for RPs spent.

Swap you for healers any day of the week - best damn rvr class in the game imho.
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Remember you saying something about a 30min ra for sbs to counter your dragonfang hmm.... ;)

Hmmm - so sbs get their balance on 30 minute timers for RPs spent.

Swap my Ragnarök for Dragonfang any day of the week.
 
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BidAccount

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Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Remember you saying something about a 30min ra for sbs to counter your dragonfang hmm.... ;)

Hmmm - so sbs get their balance on 30 minute timers for RPs spent.

Swap my Ragnarök for Dragonfang any day of the week.
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Never said anything about purge balancing DF - got me confused with someone else. SBs get their balance through equivalent damage output to both other assassin classes, access to the same core spec lines and a stun that sits between that of the NS (low cost low duration) and the infiltrator high cost high duration)

Tell you what - swap DF for Healers!
 
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catalina

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Originally posted by Haldar
if shammie is dead, end is gone
if shammie is resurrected, he must cast 8 end buffs! while pala or bard must only turn on song / chant.
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You try turning on a chant when you're a non-det tank who get's mezzed for full duration. Pala spends 90% of fg v fg fights CC'd so there is no end regen running, unless they purge of course.

Maybe we should just run out for 1 battle when purge/SoS/BoF is up then run back to atk for 30mins, it's the only way we got half a chance these days :(
 
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Javlar

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Originally posted by ab_fluid
quick question, why is it you think savages r actually called FOTM over all the servers? its not because the person behind it is an uber player but because they r above other classes in terms of damage output etc etc etc, fair enough generally albs are not great players here, but mids are far from uber skilled mad leet, they just have the best characters available to them as it stands. Hibs, used to own on this server before SC etc cos of pbaoe being insanely damaging on low resits, combined with 3 pure mages, self debuff nukes yadda yadds. Its not like the hibs were uber players then and suddenly went to midgard and decided to make midgard uber, its for the greater part totally based on classes and class combinations.

Overall, put it this way, put 3 seperate fg's out to fight, 1 mid 1 hib 1 alb, all with perf grp set up, lets say all rr6 and all exactly as good players as each other, as it stands mid would win the majority of the fights, due only to the classes and class combinations they currently possess.
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Sure thing, i agree that they are fotm, they are a bit overpowered. But you are missing my point. Playing a fotm-char in a fotm-group doesnt necessarily make you leet. A skilled group can take down a mid-fotm group without extensive use of ra's. And i do not agree with you on the 3fg faceoff. I'd say it would pretty much be a tie. Again im sure you'll think different than me but that is because you are too much influenced by excalibur-rvr.
 
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gargultroll

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Originally posted by Garbannoch Nox
hmm ok last post on this subject:

you claimed that mid pbaoe groups are not as effective as hib ones - which I say is not true. Yes you dont have GP which is very nice for caster groups but you got other stuff to make up for it (like aoe stun). And in case something goes wrong you can still use single purge.

which brings me back to the intention of my post: mids dont use PBAOE groups because they are worse than hib ones but because they are worse than mid tank groups (even without savages if that makes you happy) ;)
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lol...SM do 5 -700 dmg on the hibs...nerf BAOD
 
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old.Nol

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Let me put it this way, stupid people are too stupid to realise they are not clever...

That principle is very much true within the confines of DAOC and there's not much point arguing about it.

The fact remains that Mid win when they run as 1fg, whether that is because their groups are overpowered or they are just too skilled will always result in arguments.

Hibs however win 2fg vs 2fg battles, because pb stacks nicely, I mean we are very skilled, so I reckon we should stick to our winning formula.
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by gargultroll
lol...SM do 5 -700 dmg on the hibs...nerf BAOD
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Which enchanter has BOAD on excal? It's a total waste because everyone runs in tank groups.
 
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old.anubis

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Originally posted by old.Nol
Which enchanter has BOAD on excal? It's a total waste because everyone runs in tank groups.
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lol, just tell me you dont buy baod there in hib
rofl
 
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StormriderX

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Originally posted by old.anubis
lol, just tell me you dont buy baod there in hib
rofl
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Tank groups tend to feature only 1 mage - eldritch.
Enchanters tend to get left behind for pve'ing and leveling the new fotm bm's.
Baod doesn't help powerleveling.

That is probably what nol was getting at.
 
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sheph

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Originally posted by Javlar
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I might have been a bit off when i explained it.

What i meant was: On Gawaine it did not matter if you had high rr char and really knew what you were doing because hibs and albs had this knowledge pretty much throughout all of their ranks. You never really noticed new people coming to any of the realms (Gawaine is one of the bottom 5 servers if you count population) so most of the players there were skilled and had played since the beginning. On Excalibur new players emerge every day it seems.

Im kind of getting off track, but here it is shortened up for you:

On Gawaine most people were very good players and in the face-offs we had there Hibs and Albs were the victors most of the time. Due to two reasons: They KNEW how to play and they had a tad bit higher numbers than the mids. But even though mids were a bit outnumbered a mid fotm-fg couldnt (we are talking like 80% losing for the mids) beat a regular hib/alb-fg.

You kind of understood me wrong i think.. my post was about the fact that smart people can beat other people pretty much all the time even if you do not consider realm.

Excalibur is a bad example imo, the majority of the alb population play in randomgroups and therefor gets shredded by mid fotm-groups.

So short and simple: Mids might be easy-mode on excalibur, but its not easy-mode if you consider the whole game.
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Short and simple: ur wrong

Considering the game code mid is easy mode.
 
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old.Nol

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someone save me from the tempest of superb riposte plz, looks like another "z" cut into my tunic...

P.S. Estat, I am surprised you managed to find a key besides f8 on your keyboard :D
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Javlar
Sure thing, i agree that they are fotm, they are a bit overpowered. But you are missing my point. Playing a fotm-char in a fotm-group doesnt necessarily make you leet. A skilled group can take down a mid-fotm group without extensive use of ra's. And i do not agree with you on the 3fg faceoff. I'd say it would pretty much be a tie. Again im sure you'll think different than me but that is because you are too much influenced by excalibur-rvr.
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ofc a skilled grp can take down a savage fotm unskilled grp, we beat RG/BC day in day out xD, they don't bother me, its the grps with any scrap of skill in mid that just totally over perform, JH/NP for example, and yeh i do base most of my daoc views from excal server, it is the most active RvR server in the world :) but i also read VN shitloads and the whine is exactly the same there. Mids are still top of the pile in dark age of tankalot, imo due to 3 things, savages, asd (fixed soon yay), and insta pbaoe disease 8 sec timer. Savages will get a proper nerf sometime i'd imagine, asd as i said fixed soon, and my idea for fixing pb insta disease would basically be add immunity timer to it and all other diseases.
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by old.anubis
i do
mids have savages & healers, albs have sos & bof, hibs have gp & chanters
fair enuff
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savages + healers are 3 and 3 in a perf grp so thats 6 uber chars in 1 grp and no recast timer on them.

Sos is once every 30 mins in perf grp, Bof is once every 15mins.

Gp is once every 15 mins in perf grp, Baod is none existant.

You do the maths and work out which has greatest influence on current rvr.
 
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Xandax

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Originally posted by ab_fluid
ofc a skilled grp can take down a savage fotm unskilled grp, we beat RG/BC day in day out xD, they don't bother me, its the grps with any scrap of skill in mid that just totally over perform, JH/NP for example, and yeh i do base most of my daoc views from excal server, it is the most active RvR server in the world :) <snip>
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heh - so because *some* skilled savage-groups win you whine?

Intersting...... :rolleyes:
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Xandax
heh - so because *some* skilled savage-groups win you whine?

Intersting...... :rolleyes:
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i said, we can beat RG/BC most times, basically cos players in vgn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players in RG/BC. But when we play vs JH/NP who are around the same skill/experience level as our players its like 90% they win 10% we do, and thats is 100% based on the classes they have against the classes we have. that easier for you to understand?
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by Xandax
heh - so because *some* skilled savage-groups win you whine?

Intersting...... :rolleyes:
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skilled and savage in the same sentance is like using bush and sane in the same sentance...plain wrong...
 
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old.anubis

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Originally posted by ab_fluid
i said, we can beat RG/BC most times, basically cos players in vgn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players in RG/BC. But when we play vs JH/NP who are around the same skill/experience level as our players its like 90% they win 10% we do, and thats is 100% based on the classes they have against the classes we have. that easier for you to understand?
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you want to kill every1 on regular basis?
cant have it all, sorry
kill RG/BC, two out of four active mid guilds

and how it comes that vgn >>> rg/bc, but vgn === np/jh, maybe it is np/jh >>> vgn >>> rg/bc?
 
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infozwerg

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You do the maths and work out which has greatest influence on current rvr.
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rather than doing maths, i just play the game, and i can tell you that a good alb group (note: good, not balanced) will beat a standard mid group (you may call it fotm) in everyday rvr about 70%-80%.

not your group?

sure. but my group.

maybe thats because mids on my server suck (they got to rr10 only by zergin yadda yadda). maybe thats because of our super secret grouptech (2-3 clerics, theurg, minstrel, paladin, 2 mercs, scout or armsman if a cleric missing). maybe its because we have relics (oh wait, albion lost all relics while we played only excalibur). maybe its because <insert random excuse here>.

or maybe its because each and every one of us plays his character to the maximum and we work together as a team? try that for a change! might work as advertised! be warned, you might wtfpwn!

if you dont want to be competetive, quit the whine, cause NP, JH and Pandora do and we feel no regret crushing, frustrating and humiliating casual players like you.

PS: sheph let us know when and how you looked at the game code and if that is the reason you started hitting me with your silly crescent sword whenever you see me. you are a druid right?
 
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infozwerg

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Originally posted by old.Nol
skilled and savage in the same sentance is like using bush and sane in the same sentance...plain wrong...
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you mean like accusing a healer of using only f8?
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by old.anubis

and how it comes that vgn >>> rg/bc, but vgn === np/jh, maybe it is np/jh >>> vgn >>> rg/bc?
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nolby >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FC > VGN >> BaF > Falcons >> BC >>> JH >> GoL

cba to list more guilds ;p

(on teamwork/'skill' alone)
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by infozwerg
PS: sheph let us know when and how you looked at the game code and if that is the reason you started hitting me with your silly crescent sword whenever you see me. you are a druid right?
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sheph's a lurikeen enchanter.
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by infozwerg
you mean like accusing a healer of using only f8?
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I don't accuse you of solely using f8, sometimes you use sprint too, luckily you have good team mates.
 
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