why are you grping as a stealther?

[toxii]

I go to bridges everytime, ofc i always boat. I don't think i make mistake going there, just more exciting and means i have to play better then i usually do when fighting people either together, or one after the other.

For a heavy tank i think the only viable area to solo is bridges. You have no interupts, and you usually can only win if you start a fight in close quarters, as for the likes of casters that can just kite you for miles in the open.

People can solo at bridges, you just have to know what your doing.

are you still trying to prove to people that you solo ?

 

[Gamah]

So what's really the difference between playing solo and in group? WHy is it so 'boring' solo and uberfun when in grp?

It's boring because he dies to rog rr3's when solo :<

 

[ebenezer]

You wouldn't want to have to play vs Michael Jordan 1 on 1. Instead of learning from him, you gather 5 people, equip all with shotguns and assault rifles, kill him and wonder why he doesn't play anylonger. Then you flame him verbally for insisting on a some kind of a playstyle, trying to prove something where there is nothing to prove but that you are idiots.

erhm...very very wierd comparison lol...and which goes as good the other way lol.
How about this...michael jordan that seems like a decent guy in comparison to many other egoistic star players shows good grace since he is so good he lets a few players be against him, he still can outplay some but it doesnt bother him since he doesnt really care about numbers, more to have fun and getting it fair.
sigh^^

 

[necromania]

<coughs> Not true

you might aswell explain/proof your post....

otherwise it just makes you look like a ****

 

[Gear]

I duo with Nuok for the simple reason that he's my best irl friend for the past 18 years. Mostly it's for add control.

Let's face it, 2 stealthers hitting 1 (stealther) is overkill. No skill involved at all, no need to reapply poisons after purge, no need to time abilities to get maximum effect, no need to do anything, you just spam garrote AH and you're done with it.

The pleasure in playing a ns (for me at least) is not to get rps but to have some nice fights, and you defo don't get that from ganking people.

But then again I have also ganked a couple (maybe more) individuals for my own personal reasons, and defo some by accident.

That whole reasoning about "I pay my subs and i'll play how i want" is too old anyway, so please find a better one.

PS (and food for thought): Alphas go for the good fights and some enjoyment. Betas want the rps to make up for their mediocre life.

 

[ebenezer]

I duo with Nuok for the simple reason that he's my best irl friend for the past 18 years. Mostly it's for add control.

Let's face it, 2 stealthers hitting 1 (stealther) is overkill. No skill involved at all, no need to reapply poisons after purge, no need to time abilities to get maximum effect, no need to do anything, you just spam garrote AH and you're done with it.

The pleasure in playing a ns (for me at least) is not to get rps but to have some nice fights, and you defo don't get that from ganking people.

But then again I have also ganked a couple (maybe more) individuals for my own personal reasons, and defo some by accident.

That whole reasoning about "I pay my subs and i'll play how i want" is too old anyway, so please find a better one.

PS (and food for thought): Alphas go for the good fights and some enjoyment. Betas want the rps to make up for their mediocre life.

Well...the argument about paying ur subs cant reallt get old since its a fact and we all do it^^ Its just the way it is. People can whine and think its still shitty , but there you go...you can think that about all products someone else buy. I might not like the tv my friend bought and say how the heck could you buy that? But he will still buy it cause he likes it that way.
This isnt a free game were you as gues happend to brows in and play...this is UR game as you took the product from the shelves and bought it. You do exactly as you llike with it. If people you encounter in the game cant seperate game from reality and get angry and offenced by a playstyle...well...thats said more about them imo. You get the same kinda sour feeling as a bad looser when ur team loose a football game.and you think the other team use foul play...its still a game though right? Or would you consider that a personal attack against you?

People have a lot of opinions about what you do and what kinda choises you make in . I l save my good behaviour and decent manors for the poeple in rl. Even though i solo and use your "good " manors in game i woulnt hold any bad manors in a game against anyone. If i chat with someone a lot and notice he is a jerk he is still a jerk no matter how much fair play he produce in this game. If he is a good guy and uses his moral and social where it matters in a situasion were you actually talk to someone, then i know he isa good guy no matter how he kills me in a game lol, how someone can missundertsand those two concepts its beyond me tbh.
Bottom line. We are all different and we all play this game with different skills and reasons. Make no assumptions or have no expectations about anyone else. Making assumptions all the time saying you do this and that in game cause in rl you are lowlife and mediocre etc etc is such a generalisation and you should know better lol. I Might be a professional boxer in rl...or a flight pilot and geta lot of excitement there and still enjoy to zerg right?? Or do a 1 vs 1 player have to be brave and tough in rl as well? Please start seperate the game enviroment from rl a bit. Everyone own their own copy of daoc and play it exactly like they want. And whine whine sob sob..lol thats how it is
over and out..

 

[Coldbeard]

You have to be the saddest, most twisted individual ever to have graced these boards. In your sig you say you are "retired" yet you cannot help but flame and insult every single post and poster. I appreciate that Norway must be a dull place to live but surely there is something constructive you can do. How about taking a nice refreshing dip in a fjord(sp) and go and catch some anchovies?

I am retired from DAoC, I still browse the forum. I am the sad individual yet you are the one to insult my nationality, such low blows indicates that maybe you are the one that is sad one here.

btw, I anticipated one of your great posts earlier in this thread.

 

[necromania]

norway is a dull place afaik...

 

[Drav]

I am retired from DAoC, I still browse the forum. I am the sad individual yet you are the one to insult my nationality, such low blows indicates that maybe you are the one that is sad one here.

btw, I anticipated one of your great posts earlier in this thread.

Damn you've retired Cold shame :/ always enjoyed the few duels I had with your warrior, even though the majority of the time I usually ended up eating dirt out of them.

 

[Voidan]

Shike
"I play my NS to solo, strictly solo and nothing else but solo, its just how _I_ feel a stealther should be played and its simple as that. Its an invisible toon with tools designed to kill pretty much any other char in the game, sure some are a pain in the arse to deal with but there aint many I cant kill on my own.

Its all down to how one play I guess, I play it with patience and take my time to do my kills, I dont rush things much. I find it far more exciting to play hide and seek or take on difficult challenges as a stealther, letting some visible toon know I'm there, and then strike and do my best is where I have the most fun usually I try to work for my RPs I get, every single one so that my rank actually mean something for me. I like to think that pretty much anyone can run duos or trios and make RPs quite easy, just from ganking every solo person they run across, which many stealthers do, without much of a challenge and ultimately I believe they loose out on a lot of fun, it isnt hard to land a PA on a fella already engaged in a fight with a buddy, its not hard to grapple and let the friend use his bow, it isnt hard to instastun someone and let the infil you are grouped with do a PA and finish things off. The ones playing duo+ are in it for the RPs and nothing else I believe, if they werent, they wouldnt duo down solos and honestly, say one duo that strictly let solos fight only one of the two in the group. Say the one duo that let solos pass by instead of just ganking, in every single case. Its always some excuse like, we are grouped I have to help, we are grouped and thought you were duo, we are grouped I accidently clicked PA, we are grouped I was afk and came back and paniced. Yeh, right, whatever, RPs RPs RPs.. and sure, nothing wrong in that really but I find it funny when people try to justify their methods and sologanking with different excuses, It's not as if duos actively seek other duos to fight, most duos seek anything to kill and when they find something, they kill it regardless of what it is.

In my book, duo is as bad as adding, just because its 2vs1 in so many cases, like someone said, I dont mind it much if its low ranks up to rr5 but after that its just ganking, low rank however is a bloody hell to go through alone and as said, I dont mind much if 2 rr2 infils get the drop on me and kills me. When 2 rr8 infils and a scout get a drop though and a mincer adds aswell with mach6 just to leech precious RPs, its ridicilous and disgusting just like for any toon that behave like that."


Amen to that!

 

[gwal]

all theese zerg/add whines have been ongoing for like 5 years now.. isnt it about time ppl realise others can play as they like.

if he cant beat u 1vs1 or FGvsFG, and dont have the time / want to learn to do it, then why the hell shouldnt he just get more ppl.
if he enjoys playing with some friends or his entire guild on rvr, then why shouldnt he.
if he is annoyed at being outnumbered, then why shouldnt he gather more than the enemy.

get over it

 

[liloe]

You wouldn't want to have to play vs Michael Jordan 1 on 1. Instead of learning from him, you gather 5 people, equip all with shotguns and assault rifles, kill him and wonder why he doesn't play anylonger. Then you flame him verbally for insisting on a some kind of a playstyle, trying to prove something where there is nothing to prove but that you are idiots.

I think this argument has some minor flaws, barely to be recognized by the untrained eye.

 

[ebenezer]

I think this argument has some minor flaws, barely to be recognized by the untrained eye.

One in a row of perfectly horendous examples

 

[Everz]

I am retired from DAoC, I still browse the forum. I am the sad individual yet you are the one to insult my nationality, such low blows indicates that maybe you are the one that is sad one here.

btw, I anticipated one of your great posts earlier in this thread.

if your retired then? whats the need to come on this thread and cry?

your retired it shouldnt bother you since you do not play no more?

 

[Dave J.]

So many people in this game are cowards, think that is what annoys me most. Are you afraid to die in A GAME LoL?1?!1+11!

 

[Andrilyn]

Could turn the question around and say: Are you affraid to communicate with other people?

 

[dub]

some people are more fun to play games with than others , both irl and online , most realize that the mutual fun is part of any gaming experience.

some dont realize this and group with stealthers , cant help for feeling sorry for them .

it would be inpolite of me not to point out that the way the play the game makes whole zones boring

any stealther is such a strong class that its bull to claim you cant solo with them from rr 1.

games is defined by rules and ethics (think recent world cup) , without the ethic part games doesnt work.

we as the players are the only who can to a certain degree enforce this , mythic can only make the rules.

its boring to group with a stealther , ill claim any doing it is only in it for the rp´s , in this case you should consider rolling a caster instead , will be better rp and more fun for all , you included.

if stealths were meant for grouping you would be able to see stealthed groupmembers , highest mos would override and ml 10 spymaster wouldnt make ppl stealthed at random lvls.

because i say so

 

[Coldbeard]

if your retired then? whats the need to come on this thread and cry?

your retired it shouldnt bother you since you do not play no more?

am I not entitled to have an opinion even though I don't activly play DAoC anymore? If you can't handle it then thats really your problem.

 

[thaaadi]

Could turn the question around and say: Are you affraid to communicate with other people?

Said the guy who think voicecoms are useless for fullgrps:eek2:

 

[kivik]

Could turn the question around and say: Are you affraid to communicate with other people?

Believe me, even though it might be hard to understand... You don't have to zerg soloers to be able to use /gu, /bc, /c, /t or ventrilo/TS, trust me...

 

[ebenezer]

some people are more fun to play games with than others , both irl and online , most realize that the mutual fun is part of any gaming experience.

some dont realize this and group with stealthers , cant help for feeling sorry for them .

it would be inpolite of me not to point out that the way the play the game makes whole zones boring

any stealther is such a strong class that its bull to claim you cant solo with them from rr 1.

games is defined by rules and ethics (think recent world cup) , without the ethic part games doesnt work.

we as the players are the only who can to a certain degree enforce this , mythic can only make the rules.

its boring to group with a stealther , ill claim any doing it is only in it for the rp´s , in this case you should consider rolling a caster instead , will be better rp and more fun for all , you included.

if stealths were meant for grouping you would be able to see stealthed groupmembers , highest mos would override and ml 10 spymaster wouldnt make ppl stealthed at random lvls.

because i say so

Wether you think everyone should be able to play solo, its still up to the poeple that play it to decide, or is suddenly the daoc community a democracy now. Its ok to feel for what other people think and want when some decide...but at all other times no one can interfere when these people are solo? As i and many said before...never assume or expect anything from anyone else in this game. Play as you like and dont bother ur head too much with what others do and im sure you and everyone else is gonna be fine. Its when you start to decide for others or say what is best for them it becomes and unpleasent atmosphere to play in.....
Me on my ranger cant kill anyone else solo...so either i would add to make rps...or i would group up. Thats just a fact. I couldnt care less if someone else say to me i should be able to solo. I solo all the time on my hero and know pretty well what my alts are capable of and not. I think the whole concept of being a stealther is a bit sneaky and dishonest tbh. But thats part of the fun to encounter those type of classes.
Anyhow...this silly discussion of what everyone should or shouldnt do is fruitless and totally unescesary. As the people do what they want in the end anyway. Only thing you do is divide and poison this comunity even more then it is. And in the end people will start telling you how to play ur alts as well...pleasent thoughts? nah i dont think anyone likes that^^
over and out..

 

[elbeek]

am I not entitled to have an opinion even though I don't activly play DAoC anymore? If you can't handle it then thats really your problem.

I would seriously hate to be you.

 

[shorti]

Because they are useless as individuals.

its called fun ... and it actualy is if u play with a friend ... not that u would have any experience judging by your posts ... soooo go be leet mistar !

for the record i duo alot with my rl friend and we have fun !

 

[Bugz]

I am glad that I am here to shed some light in your patethic every day life?

You provide amusement. That helps to make me day.

 

[Ging]

and still it goes on, day after day, year in year out. Dont you ever YEARN for change?

 

[Coldbeard]

I would seriously hate to be you.

I would hate to be a person capable of making such a judgement based on an internet forum.

 

[Coldbeard]

its called fun ... and it actualy is if u play with a friend ... not that u would have any experience judging by your posts ... soooo go be leet mistar !

for the record i duo alot with my rl friend and we have fun !

Okey Dr.Phil.

 

[censi]

I would hate to be a person capable of making such a judgement based on an internet forum.

normally I would agree but your just a fucking idiot I think hes right!

smile, be fucking happy say something positive! Aim to make people laugh rather than piss on them!

listen to uncle censi and rather than the usual counter attack say something funny and off the wall! show us the real coldballs!

 

[Phule_Gubben]

is it why you can't solo alone cause you think you do it bad in soloing?

or is it incredible fun to gang bang soloers that comes over you?

why do you grp and zerg?

Cause we can or want to?

 

[islef]

People that play casters really do go for the easymode coz they cant play anything else and do well.

first of all this whole rant might be a little of topic as i dont really have a stealth character, but i am currently bored shitless at work so now might be as good a time as any to give my pov on this.

I personally value the respect of other players both from my own and other realms. My problem is this: I have a caster as main, (RM currently specced rc/dark) all stealthers, visibles in short every1 will add on a caster cause they assume that all casters do the same. This is all good even tho i do get pissed off from time to time. It is very likely that is is just me who is crap and skill less and whatever more people can come up with, as far as i know i never stated anything else, but my rm has a hard time in most 1 vs 1 fights unless i get the jump on somebody, and i actually need to think about what i do or i loose (granted that i most likely do not have to think as much as some other classes do in fights). My point is that i actually think it can be fairly fun and challenging to solo on my runie, but i get the feeling from almost everyone that it is not allowed and is not really possible to "solo" on any caster since we are all by nature lame skill less adding c*nts.

When more people get online i tend to grp up, since i also like that aspect of the game (yes i have run in early day gank groups and such, i am no saint, i know). This is where i once in a blue moon find the greatest satisfaction in this game, when i 1 in 50 times get a grp with a decent setup so we can compete. This goes very much for when i ran with my guild, we could usually field around 6 players or so and very seldom all were on ventrilo. This meant that we have often added on the FG vs FG fights since someone not in vent or just someone not sharing my view on playstyle (i dont like having adds in a fight so i try not to add myself) added on the fights, hence the grps would attack us and not much of a choice left then.
I can fully understand that people get pissed of by this i would myself, but the abuse you get if it happens is so uncalled for in my oppinion, i will leave this subject out tho since it is not really my point.
These misunderstandings and different views on how the game should be played, has in the end caused me to leave my guild a hard decision but one made because i, as stated, value the respect of others.

Here comes i my problem really: I play a rm and i like it, i find it fun to play both solo duo trio fg and whatever! If i solo i am considered a skill less noob (wich is proberly(sp?) true) and an adding idiot, simply because im a caster who dont have enough skills to play anything else (see the quote in the top). This means that i will get zerged all the time /ruded /rofled etc all day wich tend to make the fun slowly slip away.

When i try fg vs fg i feel as if u can only really be respected if u play in a fixed grp with strict non adding policies, i would be more than happy to do this, problem is that you have to be in the good company to do this. Hence i doubt that will ever happen.

So even if all i strive for is having fun while doing so in a way that is respected by others, it seems impossible to meet the requirements for this.

Guess my point is that because i chose a caster as my main I at the same time chose not to be able to solo the "right", and since i am not in any fixed group i will to most of the people in these boards be considered a nuisance in the battlefield because i group with people that dont have ventrilo or even know about IRC etc, or might not agree with the unwritten fg vs fg rules.
So no matter how hard i try i seem to fail to live up to what people would consider worthy of anything else than a /rude.

I have spent so much time in DAOC and i had so much fun, met lots of nice people etc, but i reckon that somewhere along the line not too far away i will stop having fun, since i seem to be positioned somewhere between the "elite" and the "roleplayer" part of the community, and as seen lots in these forums, there really is no room between those two concerning how RvR should be played.

My opinnion, mostlikely considered worthless QQ, btu at least i passed some time here at work.

/Isle.