Whine at the treehuggers!

Marcus75

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Its bordering on silly on how the Mythic/GOA-formula has hibs as underdogs still.

In Dark Age of Castalot you guys really have a good start to begin with, on top of that you got the underdog bonuses, 10% power and 10% strength bonus. I mean cmon you guys are soon creaming the Albs as the zerg-realm who can steamroll any keep whenever they feel like it. And/or defend it ofc.

So whine, whine, cry, whine and whine with cry and whine! Dammit! ;)

Hell will probably freeze over before you silly treehuggers loose that silverspoon up yer x. :twak:
 

sneakies

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yea lets whine at hibs.


Hibs, YOU SO OP!

I mean, please just admit to it. No other realm stands a chance against you. Specially when you drag out 10 people (none animists) to a defense i mean NERF!

Completly agree with ya! Good luck convincing everyone else :)
 

charmangle

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You forgot...

Marcus75 said:
Its bordering on silly on how the Mythic/GOA-formula has hibs as underdogs still.

In Dark Age of Castalot you guys really have a good start to begin with, on top of that you got the underdog bonuses, 10% power and 10% strength bonus. I mean cmon you guys are soon creaming the Albs as the zerg-realm who can steamroll any keep whenever they feel like it. And/or defend it ofc.

So whine, whine, cry, whine and whine with cry and whine! Dammit! ;)

Hell will probably freeze over before you silly treehuggers loose that silverspoon up yer x. :twak:

You forgot that since they are so overpowerd and overmanned atm that they get about 5 times the amount of rps of any other realm making them alot higher RR than the main alb/mid too.

So atm hib have: The best classes, the highest amount of rvring lvl 50s and the highest Relamranks. (not to mention more of the really good guildgroups (ofc that has to be acknowledged)

Fixes I would like to see is:

1. Shrooms (gone gone gone gone) (kill the class or give exact same class to mids/albs:)
2. Baseline stun removed from all casters. Give druids an aestun instead. (and give the casters root/single mess instead)
3. Banshee Ablative proc nonstackable...and their ae non passable through walls.
4. Hibs underdog bonus kept only to pve bonuses. All rvr bonuses removed.
5. Reset all relics.

There we go now the game is more playable again! Dreaming away!:)

/Charmangle
 

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charmangle said:
You forgot that since they are so overpowerd and overmanned atm that they get about 5 times the amount of rps of any other realm making them alot higher RR than the main alb/mid too.

So atm hib have: The best classes, the highest amount of rvring lvl 50s and the highest Relamranks. (not to mention more of the really good guildgroups (ofc that has to be acknowledged)

Fixes I would like to see is:

1. Shrooms (gone gone gone gone) (kill the class or give exact same class to mids/albs:)
2. Baseline stun removed from all casters. Give druids an aestun instead. (and give the casters root/single mess instead)
3. Banshee Ablative proc nonstackable...and their ae non passable through walls.
4. Hibs underdog bonus kept only to pve bonuses. All rvr bonuses removed.
5. Reset all relics.

There we go now the game is more playable again! Dreaming away!:)

/Charmangle

Banshees ablative gets nerfed next patch, along with the ae through walls.
Also, they max the number of ppl the ae dd/bolt can hit to 16.
And, afaik the relics are reset aswell :)
 

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charmangle said:
3. Banshee Ablative proc nonstackable...

/Charmangle

I think this is actually fixed in patch 1.74 ( or 1.75, not sure )
 

charmangle

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Ahaa! Didnt know that!:)

Equador said:
I think this is actually fixed in patch 1.74 ( or 1.75, not sure )


Nice to know!:) Thanks!:)
Just wish they could think of these things before hand and not after a couple of months of having the bugs built in!:/

/Charmangle
 

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charmangle said:
Nice to know!:) Thanks!:)
Just wish they could think of these things before hand and not after a couple of months of having the bugs built in!:/

/Charmangle

Comparing to some other past bugs, this fix is pretty quick tbh :p
 

charmangle

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Yea thats true!:) (and not to mention warlocks)

Septina said:
Comparing to some other past bugs, this fix is pretty quick tbh :p

Hehe yea thats true and not to mention that they kinda went overboard on the warlocks!:) (Was meant to be a strong class but damn they must have realized how overpower the class was from the start) (It gets nefed in the new patches too)

/Charmangle
 

Roadie

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charmangle said:
2. Baseline stun removed from all casters. Give druids an aestun instead. (and give the casters root/single mess instead)

That would probably make hib fg's harder....would definaly make them better at farming zergs =o

Also its hardly dark age of castalot atm :z
 

charmangle

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Yea I know!:)

Roadie said:
That would probably make hib fg's harder....would definaly make them better at farming zergs =o

Also its hardly dark age of castalot atm :z

Yep I know BUT...thats something that we can handle...fg vs fg isnt the thing that feels to overpowed thats just skill. Its the problems with defending or taking a tower/keep. The baseline stun gets you every time or if it happens to miss its the shrooms. Its just to easy to synchronize your own char compared to get it synchronized with another player. (baselinestun nuke nuke button is ALOT easier than get druid to do their job and aestun while interruped and no quickcast so that you can start nuking away:)

Well when at tower/keep it is alot of casting going on:)

/Charmangle
 

sneakies

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charmangle said:
Yep I know BUT...thats something that we can handle...fg vs fg isnt the thing that feels to overpowed thats just skill. Its the problems with defending or taking a tower/keep. The baseline stun gets you every time or if it happens to miss its the shrooms. Its just to easy to synchronize your own char compared to get it synchronized with another player. (baselinestun nuke nuke button is ALOT easier than get druid to do their job and aestun while interruped and no quickcast so that you can start nuking away:)

Well when at tower/keep it is alot of casting going on:)

/Charmangle

And from a hib POV:

Albs are like, so OP, and like, so full of retards, i mean scouts, ooh who am i kidding? i meant retards.

And like, with albs you poke your head out and theres like, 4 scouts that assist on you in aboout 1 secound, and your like *yawn*. And then!!!! You got like the age old whine of mezz range, and like, mincers insta stun, and like these things that summon pets and chase you all the way from tower to keep attacking all the way.

And like, with mids you got like, more AE shit than you shake a stick at, and like, they also get AE Stun, and then like, they get these things with bubbles over there heads that die liek flies but hit really quite hard. And like, this thing with 3 pets which is like, OMGWTFPWNED.

But hey, im a hib, hib is easy mode, therefore: im an easy mode player. Ohh, and take away my baseline stun and you can up my spec DD, give more hib casters lieftap, or accept that the classes are balanced in some screwed up way that none of us can understand cause it wasnt our idea in the first place :)
 

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i lead the eras keep bg today when we took it back...then hib took it back...and i got to say...its not nce when u get that damn stun and 3-4 nukes and u are dead....lover dmg on nukes and remove stun i say...but then all chanters/mentas/elds will stop play
 

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Did you like the Bainshee CAoE ?? We did the same to mids we did with you, let you take keep then we retake it after we pwned you, couldn't be bothered with repairs. Worked with you both, also got a nice 70 deathspam at end of night :) and 40k rp's. Oh and there was only 5 hibs that pwned your 3fg's, 2 mana ments me (bainshee) druid and animist. :cheers:
 

charmangle

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I play mid and to me this just sounds strange...

sneakies said:
And from a hib POV:

Albs are like, so OP, and like, so full of retards, i mean scouts, ooh who am i kidding? i meant retards.

And like, with albs you poke your head out and theres like, 4 scouts that assist on you in aboout 1 secound, and your like *yawn*. And then!!!! You got like the age old whine of mezz range, and like, mincers insta stun, and like these things that summon pets and chase you all the way from tower to keep attacking all the way.

And like, with mids you got like, more AE shit than you shake a stick at, and like, they also get AE Stun, and then like, they get these things with bubbles over there heads that die liek flies but hit really quite hard. And like, this thing with 3 pets which is like, OMGWTFPWNED.

But hey, im a hib, hib is easy mode, therefore: im an easy mode player. Ohh, and take away my baseline stun and you can up my spec DD, give more hib casters lieftap, or accept that the classes are balanced in some screwed up way that none of us can understand cause it wasnt our idea in the first place :)

Ive gotto say...I play mid and its picknick facing albs vs facing hibs. And stop just overriding arguments without listening to them please!:)

As I said...aestun is annoying, BUT its not connected to quickcast or damage. I just told you that I would love it if you got aestun just not baseline stun on casters. Atm its not an even playing field when we come to keep/tower. (its even fights when roaming or even hibs are abit underpowered there and could prolly use an aestun for it to even out).

But in total the fact still remains: shrooms are to powerful a tool in keeps/towers. Baseline stuns are to powerful when it comes to battlments take/defence. And an area effect that hits through walls are just stupid...same goes for a stackable ablative...(im having a hard time seeing how anyone can argue for any realm having an ability lowering all damage done to them into healing them instead ?)

And at last I just said that warlocks are way to over powered didnt I ? And therefor they get nerfed...as was my suggestion for the overpowerd parts of hibs atm!:)

/Charmangle
 

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Penlid said:
Did you like the Bainshee CAoE ?? We did the same to mids we did with you, let you take keep then we retake it after we pwned you, couldn't be bothered with repairs. Worked with you both, also got a nice 70 deathspam at end of night :) and 40k rp's. Oh and there was only 5 hibs that pwned your 3fg's, 2 mana ments me (bainshee) druid and animist. :cheers:

You "pwned" nothing...

We destroy the keep, take out the lord and get ported into a death zone.

That hardly involves any skill at all, it's a broke game mechanic. You achieved nothing killing some DI-less PUGs with the broken shit you have for keep defense. And you didn't let us retake it, we would have killed you all with a bit more range I guess. You couldn't face a direct confrontation, that's why you went to a roof and pulled that stunt out. I wish there would be some trees on keep roofs for you hibs...

People like you make me really laugh. On even grounds, with same classes, same possibilities, same equipment, I am quite sure that most of you would utterly suck. Not that I'm saying I am any good... Unlike you, with your "pwning". Roflmao...
 

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I think we hit a nerve with you somewhere. Oh dear.... the name says it all.
 

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Any screenies of the CAoE in action in that keep defence?
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
We destroy the keep, take out the lord and get ported into a death zone

Midgard tactics actually. Either doing like that or like they did earlier today. They simply jump down one floor after we have taken the tower, and spam everything that got any damage to it. and preferably the ones with an ae-effect. Then it doesent matter what "overpowered noskill easymode lame ass spammer"- classes we play, since everything in the room dies in matters of very few seconds. Works wonders . Should hopefully get removed with the tower razing-whatever

Manisch Depressiv said:
And you didn't let us retake it, we would have killed you all with a bit more range I guess. You couldn't face a direct confrontation, that's why you went to a roof and pulled that stunt out.

We had reports of 2+ full groups of albs, dont think you would had charged into that amount, with an unbalanced group of 5 or 6 random people. Into an enemy field of spells, effects, players, pets and whatever is up.

Manisch Depressiv said:
People like you make me really laugh. On even grounds, with same classes, same possibilities, same equipment, I am quite sure that most of you would utterly suck.

On even grounds, with same classes, same possibilities and the same equipment, we would be playing the same realm :touch:

This was actually one of the better nights of RvR in a long time. Was quite a few nice fights against both albs and mids, both at eras and at behn. Thanks for that :)
 

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I think we hit a nerve with you somewhere. Oh dear.... the name says it all.

That's the name I use for my character in memory about a sorc from Camlann that was named similar. Doing name jokes now?

You didn't hit a nerve anywhere, but go ahead, explain how you excactly "pwned" us there. I'd like to know.

Do also "pwn" people when you insta kill them with your Warlock? I guess so.

Yawn.
 

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Leleith said:
On even grounds, with same classes, same possibilities and the same equipment, we would be playing the same realm :touch:

That's what I ment. There are enough MMORPGs or online games with such a design.
 

Nilmeia

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whine whine whine whine whine.... some1 post something else pls :)
 

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Marcus75 said:
Dark Age of Castalot
I feel that casters and tanks are pretty much balanced now--this is only true for "competitive" FG vs FG warfare, of course, in the keep warfare and solo game, casters naturally shine. :)
 

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Marcus75 said:
Its bordering on silly on how the Mythic/GOA-formula has hibs as underdogs still.

In Dark Age of Castalot you guys really have a good start to begin with, on top of that you got the underdog bonuses, 10% power and 10% strength bonus. I mean cmon you guys are soon creaming the Albs as the zerg-realm who can steamroll any keep whenever they feel like it. And/or defend it ofc.

So whine, whine, cry, whine and whine with cry and whine! Dammit! ;)

Hell will probably freeze over before you silly treehuggers loose that silverspoon up yer x. :twak:

Hmmm Dear fellow Swede :)
Becouse Mids and Alb was Big from beginning till now ( 3-4 year?) you dont like it when Hib have some power now??
We arent overpowered ... that we have 10% Power and str is not our fault you havent take the relics back. You have tried yes, but not with a big force as we did. those time i have seen you tried was with about 3 fg max .. that cant be easy.

Becouse you cant get the number in RvR you blame Hibs becouse it easyer to do .. Try check your own ranks ...
We have lower population but we have More hib willing to do RvR!! then mids/albs i think.. that why we are stronger. I think also we have more ppl that are more willing to Lead Raids and Defence then you.
 

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Luinmir said:
Hmmm Dear fellow Swede :)
Becouse Mids and Alb was Big from beginning till now ( 3-4 year?) you dont like it when Hib have some power now??
We arent overpowered ... that we have 10% Power and str is not our fault you havent take the relics back. You have tried yes, but not with a big force as we did. those time i have seen you tried was with about 3 fg max .. that cant be easy.

Becouse you cant get the number in RvR you blame Hibs becouse it easyer to do .. Try check your own ranks ...
We have lower population but we have More hib willing to do RvR!! then mids/albs i think.. that why we are stronger. I think also we have more ppl that are more willing to Lead Raids and Defence then you.
stop using the past as a argument to be op you ##### so tired of it. hmm big force to take mid relic lal was 1-2 fgs that sneaked in when alb hibs duod us.Dear fellow Swede stop moaning mids/albs was op for 3 years and hibs had to run sooo long to get to emain qq and when mids/albs ran the half way to make it easyer for you you got killed couse you were afk and on auto run ore summit atleast thats whats you claimed.
Ok mids/albs might been OP for some time can agree on certen things but using it as a argument to say oooh mids been op for 3 years cant we(hibs) be op for a few mounths etc. is just gay and mostly i se same ppl moaning about these "3" years which is fun couse they play alb/excal as main etc ^^

^^ xD
 

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i dont think you understand, Hib's dont actualy WANT to do well in rvr.
 

charmangle

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yep nice defendind and stupid attack from us!:)

Penlid said:
Did you like the Bainshee CAoE ?? We did the same to mids we did with you, let you take keep then we retake it after we pwned you, couldn't be bothered with repairs. Worked with you both, also got a nice 70 deathspam at end of night and 40k rp's. Oh and there was only 5 hibs that pwned your 3fg's, 2 mana ments me (bainshee) druid and animist. :cheers:

BUT think you have problems counting mate...mids were 10 people. (In other words we were 1fg not a person more including stealthers + 4 bots! (and hibs were not 5 in total...you were 5 that lived up at roof when we got there and we had already killed 2-3 on the way in so a total of atleast 7-8 hibs). So not that great a feat!:) But still you did get us...nice one guys!:)

/Charmangle
 

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Luinmir said:
Hmmm Dear fellow Swede :)
Becouse Mids and Alb was Big from beginning till now ( 3-4 year?) you dont like it when Hib have some power now??
We arent overpowered ... that we have 10% Power and str is not our fault you havent take the relics back. You have tried yes, but not with a big force as we did. those time i have seen you tried was with about 3 fg max .. that cant be easy.

Becouse you cant get the number in RvR you blame Hibs becouse it easyer to do .. Try check your own ranks ...
We have lower population but we have More hib willing to do RvR!! then mids/albs i think.. that why we are stronger. I think also we have more ppl that are more willing to Lead Raids and Defence then you.

My whine was aimed at whatever freaky formula that still calculates you guys as being in need of the underdog-bonuses. (there is also a hint of hidden anger since NF made soloing much harder and DF RvR non-exsistant, none of wich you hibblets are to blame for ofc) :)
 

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Anarch said:
stop using the past as a argument to be op you ##### so tired of it. hmm big force to take mid relic lal was 1-2 fgs that sneaked in when alb hibs duod us.Dear fellow Swede stop moaning mids/albs was op for 3 years and hibs had to run sooo long to get to emain qq and when mids/albs ran the half way to make it easyer for you you got killed couse you were afk and on auto run ore summit atleast thats whats you claimed.
Ok mids/albs might been OP for some time can agree on certen things but using it as a argument to say oooh mids been op for 3 years cant we(hibs) be op for a few mounths etc. is just gay and mostly i se same ppl moaning about these "3" years which is fun couse they play alb/excal as main etc ^^

^^ xD

Where did i use that as a Argument?? Just asking.
Did you even read what i wrote?
 

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