Whine at the treehuggers!

[Luinmir]

My whine was aimed at whatever freaky formula that still calculates you guys as being in need of the underdog-bonuses. (there is also a hint of hidden anger since NF made soloing much harder and DF RvR non-exsistant, none of wich you hibblets are to blame for ofc)

Yeah i wonder relly to how that work ... I am not fore or against underdogbonus atm ,.. I am just enjoying the rvr at it is now .. Alot of fun.

Mids are damn good defender of thier homeland, my guild grps have tried sevrel time to get a tower, but we almost get over run by 1 high rr ( Maelstrom) or 3 fg Mids ... we kill some but never win the hole battle.
You must have some grp patrolling the whole Shore of Midgard..

 

[daoc_xianghua]

You forgot that since they are so overpowerd and overmanned atm that they get about 5 times the amount of rps of any other realm making them alot higher RR than the main alb/mid too.

So atm hib have: The best classes, the highest amount of rvring lvl 50s and the highest Relamranks. (not to mention more of the really good guildgroups (ofc that has to be acknowledged)

Fixes I would like to see is:

1. Shrooms (gone gone gone gone) (kill the class or give exact same class to mids/albs
2. Baseline stun removed from all casters. Give druids an aestun instead. (and give the casters root/single mess instead)

There we go now the game is more playable again! Dreaming away!

/Charmangle

Aye good idea m8..... but wait i have an even better one!
How about we just remove Hib and Alb completely and make new realms which we call Midgard1, Midgard2 and Midgard3 instead then we all have the same classes and dont have to wajn at each other every day!!

wouldnt that be uber m8?

zZzZzZz

ever thought of that mythic made different realms with different classes on purpose? i guess you didnt...

 

[Anarch]

Aye good idea m8..... but wait i have an even better one!
How about we just remove Hib and Alb completely and make new realms which we call Midgard1, Midgard2 and Midgard3 instead then we all have the same classes and dont have to wajn at each other every day!!

wouldnt that be uber m8?

zZzZzZz

ever thought of that mythic made different realms with different classes on purpose? i guess you didnt...

so creativ you are m8 now givf

 

[Asysh_pryd]

Oh and there was only 5 hibs that pwned your 3fg's, 2 mana ments me (bainshee) druid and animist.

It was priceless

 

[Aballith]

You "pwned" nothing...

We destroy the keep, take out the lord and get ported into a death zone.

That hardly involves any skill at all, it's a broke game mechanic. You achieved nothing killing some DI-less PUGs with the broken shit you have for keep defense. And you didn't let us retake it, we would have killed you all with a bit more range I guess. You couldn't face a direct confrontation, that's why you went to a roof and pulled that stunt out. I wish there would be some trees on keep roofs for you hibs...

People like you make me really laugh. On even grounds, with same classes, same possibilities, same equipment, I am quite sure that most of you would utterly suck. Not that I'm saying I am any good... Unlike you, with your "pwning". Roflmao...

Your right, there was very little skill involved... For starters you should of known what we were doing considering you hadn't killed us and knew we were still in the keep while you chose to kill the lord first. You should of known killing the lord first put you at a big disadvantage. You should of known we had a bainshee. When you ported to the roof it took me by surprise, I was the big fook off firby stood right in the middle of you and yet I still managed to get 3 or 4 ae root spams off uninterrupted before a single alb reacted. Its not as if the bainshee had moc or anything, he's hardly hard to spot and all you have to do is breath on him then we're screwed, but it seemed none of you had a clue. So yes, very little skill involved indeed.

 

[Sardine]

Hibs have had baseline stun since the begining of time, why is everyone whining about it now and not 3 years ago :< ?

 

[Roadie]

hibs get luris and underdog bonuses!11!! thats op :<

 

[willowywicca]

Hibs have had baseline stun since the begining of time, why is everyone whining about it now and not 3 years ago :< ?

Probably because previously cast speed and magic damage weren't so high that a stun spelt certain death...

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

Comparing to some other past bugs, this fix is pretty quick tbh

maybe mythic is pulling there act together at last..

and to GoA.. i would like to know how you people discuss about who is having underpopulation bonus..

as far as i know, its ment to help the realm getting the lowest bp (i.e having the least people to get BP).. if this is so.. how come hibs still have the underpopulation bonus?

Im a customer of GoA, i demand an answer!

 

[Asysh_pryd]

maybe mythic is pulling there act together at last..

and to GoA.. i would like to know how you people discuss about who is having underpopulation bonus..

as far as i know, its ment to help the realm getting the lowest bp (i.e having the least people to get BP).. if this is so.. how come hibs still have the underpopulation bonus?

Im a customer of GoA, i demand an answer!

Its based on active players and accounts.
They said it would have nothing to do with RP or BP's earnt because spoilt brats (aka mids) could go on RvR strike untill they got an rvr bonus then come out and zerg. They didn't want it to yo-yo around. Its to even the score of population - not to even out rvr participation or skill/class balance.

 

[Larc]

You forgot that since they are so overpowerd and overmanned atm that they get about 5 times the amount of rps of any other realm making them alot higher RR than the main alb/mid too.

So atm hib have: The best classes, the highest amount of rvring lvl 50s and the highest Relamranks. (not to mention more of the really good guildgroups (ofc that has to be acknowledged)

Fixes I would like to see is:

1. Shrooms (gone gone gone gone) (kill the class or give exact same class to mids/albs
2. Baseline stun removed from all casters. Give druids an aestun instead. (and give the casters root/single mess instead)
3. Banshee Ablative proc nonstackable...and their ae non passable through walls.
4. Hibs underdog bonus kept only to pve bonuses. All rvr bonuses removed.
5. Reset all relics.

There we go now the game is more playable again! Dreaming away!

/Charmangle

Someone probably replied to this already, but it's a +5% rp bonus not +500% (5 times).
In a night where u get 5000 rps you get 250 rps more than alb/mid counterpart. Not exactly a lot is it?

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

Its based on active players and accounts.
They said it would have nothing to do with RP or BP's earnt because spoilt brats (aka mids) could go on RvR strike untill they got an rvr bonus then come out and zerg. They didn't want it to yo-yo around. Its to even the score of population - not to even out rvr participation or skill/class balance.

meaning GoA are still the nitwits they always been :/

 

[Anarch]

Someone probably replied to this already, but it's a +5% rp bonus not +500% (5 times).
In a night where u get 5000 rps you get 250 rps more than alb/mid counterpart. Not exactly a lot is it?

Someone probably replied to this already you can keep you keeps/towers at higher lvl for lower cost ^^

 

[Jjuraa]

Hibs have had baseline stun since the begining of time, why is everyone whining about it now and not 3 years ago :< ?

because untill the new keeps/siege in NF, not to mention the hugely upgraded damage of TOA, Stun wasnt such a big deal.

 

[VidX]

My whine was aimed at whatever freaky formula that still calculates you guys as being in need of the underdog-bonuses. (there is also a hint of hidden anger since NF made soloing much harder and DF RvR non-exsistant, none of wich you hibblets are to blame for ofc)

It's called Under-populated bonus, under-populated, UNDER-FUCKING-POPULATED! Not Underdog bonus.

It means that it's given to the realm with the lowest overall active population.

Just because we have, on average, 3-4 rr7+ groups running each night doesn't mean we should be punished for it, it just means that the other 2 realms need to get their asses out of their heads and stop playing their fotm, pointless in group, I can wtfpwn j00 classes and get proper groups built.

And enough with the damn shroom whine, don't run at them one at a time fgs "oh ffs, I got hit by those 15 shrooms and died in like 2 seconds, but oh! the 15 people running in after me to kill the single animist were untouched, let's whine!"

Reason Hibs got free baseline stun on their casters? Cause Alb got access to Plate, Mids got access to free 1h and 2h useage in their melee specs when they specced a melee line, and Hibs got... baseline stun. Mids still have the best possible utility on stun, and the best utility for it in keeps, but all we hear is the damn "wtf, n00b baseline stunning caster" whine.

 

[Penlid]

because untill the new keeps/siege in NF, not to mention the hugely upgraded damage of TOA, Stun wasnt such a big deal.

Stun doesn't seem to be much of a problem at Brynja at the moment with the PE zerg ! Brynja the new home of the albs!

 

[Azathrim]

It's called Under-populated bonus, under-populated, UNDER-FUCKING-POPULATED! Not Underdog bonus.

It means that it's given to the realm with the lowest overall active population.

Well, that's not entirely true, is it now?

To assist the players in low population realms, or realms facing difficult odds, we are providing additional bonuses for PvE and RvR combat.

I surely don't see hibs as facing difficult odds. However, hibs are eager to defend their welfare bonus by pointing at the fact they are 4% below the norm for the total active population. They at the same time conviniently forgets that they are by far in the lead of total RP earned not to mention the relic status. Hypocrits.

Only reasonable change would be to equalize the upkeep welfare bonus across all realms, removing the RP bonus from hibs and let them keep the camp/free level bonus. Afterall, Hibs are slightly behind in population, but they surely don't need the RvR affecting bonuses. The very bonuses that just makes it so much easier for them to keep the relics.

Wake up GoA.

 

[Samaroon EatsCheese]

Stun doesn't seem to be much of a problem at Brynja at the moment with the PE zerg ! Brynja the new home of the albs!

i wish

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Your right, there was very little skill involved... For starters you should of known what we were doing considering you hadn't killed us and knew we were still in the keep while you chose to kill the lord first. You should of known killing the lord first put you at a big disadvantage. You should of known we had a bainshee. When you ported to the roof it took me by surprise, I was the big fook off firby stood right in the middle of you and yet I still managed to get 3 or 4 ae root spams off uninterrupted before a single alb reacted. Its not as if the bainshee had moc or anything, he's hardly hard to spot and all you have to do is breath on him then we're screwed, but it seemed none of you had a clue. So yes, very little skill involved indeed.

None of us had a clue?

I was ported to there, luckily at the edge of the platform, mezzed, saw albs dying all over the place, put MoC up and tried to interrupt more.

I died in 3-4 seconds.

I bet you would even see Mythic porting the whole Albion into some PBAoE as a tactic and say it was our mistake, cause we didn't kill the PBAoE users before. Hell, you would even see Mythic giving you the I-win-button as a tactic, because we failed to do kill the I-win-button before he kills us (see Warlock discussion).

The damage output your random group had was just so hilarious, to take on against you on the roof, we would have needed some DI-puffer in order to survive in that porting-shroomer-lag. Even if we wanted to go up w/o killing the lord, the outcome would be pretty much the same I guess. But we can't be arsed to make perfect groups in order to beat a broken game mechanic. Especially not that late at night, where not all classes/RRs are available.

The teleport to the roof is just plain stupid, nothing else.

And you maybe want to use a dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com) and check "skill" and "pwn". It wasn't the Albs coming to FH and saying we owned. It's not me saying we did everything we could and still lost.

It's a Hib thinking that you owned us there.

My condolences.

Stun - nuke - nuke - nuke. "Look ma, I pwn."

 

[Treeeebeard]

However, hibs are eager to defend their welfare bonus by pointing at the fact they are 4% below the norm for the total active population.

According to cronicles were roughly 3/4 the size of alb ... Smooth

 

[Haggus]

Stun doesn't seem to be much of a problem at Brynja at the moment with the PE zerg ! Brynja the new home of the albs!

Anti freedom Fighters ftw !!!!!!!

I'm gonna start a guild called that me thinks - wonder how many people would join...

 

[Haggus]

According to cronicles were roughly 3/4 the size of alb ... Smooth

Maybe they should take the ammount of people who activly RvR and compare them, seeing as the bonus's are mostly effective in RvR... no?

 

[Azathrim]

According to cronicles were roughly 3/4 the size of alb ... Smooth

According to the xml hibs have been around 75-100 active chars behind mids this entire week. Albs is a completely different aspect ofcourse...

 

[VidX]

Maybe they should take the ammount of people who activly RvR and compare them, seeing as the bonus's are mostly effective in RvR... no?

Or maybe they shouldn't as it's Hibs decision to go RvR just like it's Mids and Albs decision to not go RvR.

Or, after tonights show, it's more like Albs decision to not go RvR and Mids decision to camp Bryjna with a nice zerg of 30+ BDs and Warlocks and do bugger all else.

 

[charmangle]

Hmm...talk about missing the point all together...

Aye good idea m8..... but wait i have an even better one!
How about we just remove Hib and Alb completely and make new realms which we call Midgard1, Midgard2 and Midgard3 instead then we all have the same classes and dont have to wajn at each other every day!!

wouldnt that be uber m8?

zZzZzZz

ever thought of that mythic made different realms with different classes on purpose? i guess you didnt...

Sigh...since the person aboves' post is so infantile i feel I will unfortunatly have to lower myself too respond in kind...(I do appologize for this in advance

Ill try to take this in simple words so you understand...

The suggestions were sarkastic...that means it wasnt meant as a serious suggestion. They were just made to make a point. Apparently the point just went way above your understanding capability. So an explenation: What I meant was atm hibs are so overpowered in situations that involves towers/keeps, this is due mainly too their baseline stuns/shrooms. How too fix it im not sure, but its not my job...what I do know is, what makes the game boring for me. And thats the said powers at those said positions. When those classes was designed they werent overpowered since rvr wasnt as concentrated in and around buildings. But instead more too open ground fights, where the playing field is even or even an slight advantage for mids/albs.

Did you understand the point this time or do I have to use baby language ?

/charmangle

 

[BlackrazoR]

Your right, there was very little skill involved... For starters you should of known what we were doing considering you hadn't killed us and knew we were still in the keep while you chose to kill the lord first. You should of known killing the lord first put you at a big disadvantage. You should of known we had a bainshee. When you ported to the roof it took me by surprise, I was the big fook off firby stood right in the middle of you and yet I still managed to get 3 or 4 ae root spams off uninterrupted before a single alb reacted. Its not as if the bainshee had moc or anything, he's hardly hard to spot and all you have to do is breath on him then we're screwed, but it seemed none of you had a clue. So yes, very little skill involved indeed.

Tbh I had informed the Albion BG that the keep shape was bound to change upon capture and it was about 4am so I'm not surprised no one understood/read it. You guys had about 8 Hiblets in the Keep for most of the night afaik. When he Lord went down I was the caster on the floor below who got wtfpwned as you came down (the surprise didn't work as I had hoped ). We were aware you had a bainshee but to breath on a bainshee is harder than you might think when they hit so hard xD. The whole night was very balanced IMO despite Albs being fewer you guys played well to defend and I disagree heavily there was no skill involved. Oh and QQ.

 

[Belomar]

Did you understand the point this time or do I have to use baby language?

Haha, well said, Charmangle--a lesson how to pwn a fool thoroughly.

 

[Puppet]

Baseline stun...ZzzzzzZZZz Insta mezzz.... Baseline stun..........ZzzZZZzzz... Shrooms..........ZzzzZZzzzZZzzz.....Baseline stun.........ZzzzZZZz...Bainshees.....ZzzzZZ...AE-Bolts with baseline stun!....ZzzzzZZZzzzZzz.......Bards....ZzzzZZZZzzzz....Wardens....ZzzZZZzzz...keepfights....ZzzzZZZzzZZz........Overpowered underpopulated bonusses........ZzzzzZzzzzz....Baseline stun.........ZzzZZzzzZZZzz.....PBAE......Zzzzzzzz......Magic Ablative with 17 bainshees and all croc-tooth-ring....ZzzZZZ Baseline stun....ZzzzZZZz animist bugged shrooms....Zzzzz......Vampiirs.....zzZZzzZZz..... owned...ZzzzZZzz....Rangers...ZzzzZZzz....baseline stun

Whatever; and the whine abuot 'we would need DI to survive' is such sillyness; isnt DI like the first RA all primary healers get after MCL?

 

[charmangle]

Oh I think you missunderstood!

Someone probably replied to this already, but it's a +5% rp bonus not +500% (5 times).
In a night where u get 5000 rps you get 250 rps more than alb/mid counterpart. Not exactly a lot is it?

Howdi!

I think you missunderstood what the x5 multiplyer was about. I meant it was as an estimation of how much more the main hib get than the main mid/alb in rvr since you are so in control of rvr atm. (I wasnt talking about the bonuses you guys get IE: Highrr hib groups roam around pawning everything (by pure skill not OP power) this makes it alot easier for lowrr hibbies to join in and get their own share of the spoils. At towers the major amounts of animists and baseline stunners make it alot easier for them to fast gain alot of rps compared to other realms etc.

And ofc the x5 is just a very very very rough estimate! In truth I have no idea how much more hibbies earns but im pretty sure its alot more than the main alb/mid just because of those things mentioned earlier!

/Charmangle

ps: Btw a salute to you for actually argumenting instead of just (like way to many) just posting a meaningless comment. Nice too see! ds.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Whatever; and the whine abuot 'we would need DI to survive' is such sillyness; isnt DI like the first RA all primary healers get after MCL?

We had 2 junior Clerics afair... One of the has some DI afair. Not, that it made any difference. I was grouped with a 2nd Sorc only.

Go ahead with your hypocrisy.

I admit it: You are not overpowered in certain situations like keep/tower siege/defense and all hibs own due to personal and group skill and superior communication (bahahaha).

I like being owned by Mael (up to a degree), where their skills shine and where I can learn something.

But I do not like being owned by some Hibs who can't do jack shit beside off to pull some idiotic "stun-nuke-nuke/shroom-bainshee-roof"-stunts and who come to here and claim that they "pwned".

You see the difference? You even got the nerves to say: You suck if you run with DI-less clerics and blame the albs for not being skilled enough to take on you.

Then you also complain about people bitching about your easy mode.

Hopocrisy ftw!