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last cohort?
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old.LandShark
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Most fearable 1fg = a good NP group...
Most fearable 2fg = any chanter-overpoweredness-abusing VNG 2fg :great:
Promise me you'll never change, VNG!
I mean, after chanters get nerfed, that is.
Most fearable 2fg = any chanter-overpoweredness-abusing VNG 2fg :great:
Promise me you'll never change, VNG!
I mean, after chanters get nerfed, that is.
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Well,
Mid Guild:
The old school NP players like Sub, Xanatea, Venomski ect. Individual skill and team work, to bad they diddint stick around longer on Excal back then but we had some very good battles.
Mid Player(s):
The caster I had most respect for was Venomski (played by Solo I think?), even more when he played his pb SM which I forgot the name of. The thoughest meele opponent was Wrathofsauron (Even tho I may not like him and we laughed 30 min in group chat when we first saw his nick). Remember one of the last runs in emain I had him beating on me for 5 min in a large scale battle before we finally ended up fighting each other between the MMG gates, forgot how it ended tho.
Alb Guild: Outlaw, Zoyster & their zerg's was definatly the most fun ones to fight but dont know who was the hardest really. Both them and Black Falcons used to give decent fights.
Alb Player(s):
There was a theurg named Elfslayer or something who where very hard to get back then, he used to nuke me for 600+ even with uber resists. Also the first Alb caster I saw who used moc to kill our bard (Hello Gargo
). And for the meele spot I think it goes to that Paladin who always used to slam me, P something... forgot his nick lol.
Mid Guild:
The old school NP players like Sub, Xanatea, Venomski ect. Individual skill and team work, to bad they diddint stick around longer on Excal back then but we had some very good battles.
Mid Player(s):
The caster I had most respect for was Venomski (played by Solo I think?), even more when he played his pb SM which I forgot the name of. The thoughest meele opponent was Wrathofsauron (Even tho I may not like him and we laughed 30 min in group chat when we first saw his nick). Remember one of the last runs in emain I had him beating on me for 5 min in a large scale battle before we finally ended up fighting each other between the MMG gates, forgot how it ended tho.
Alb Guild: Outlaw, Zoyster & their zerg's was definatly the most fun ones to fight but dont know who was the hardest really. Both them and Black Falcons used to give decent fights.
Alb Player(s):
There was a theurg named Elfslayer or something who where very hard to get back then, he used to nuke me for 600+ even with uber resists. Also the first Alb caster I saw who used moc to kill our bard (Hello Gargo
). And for the meele spot I think it goes to that Paladin who always used to slam me, P something... forgot his nick lol.
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inuyasha
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they wont be.
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ghaladriel
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Old.NP (Sub,Venomski....) ... well i was green or blue in those times xD ... now dunno
P.s Elfslayer is a Cabby xD , one nice old.Theur is Vana the best i think.
P.s Elfslayer is a Cabby xD , one nice old.Theur is Vana the best i think.
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heh how much deathspams must i do, then u fear me?
oki-oki.. see u in Emain.
oki-oki.. see u in Emain.
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censi
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aye I would have to say venomski was deadly.
His nukes seem to hit me faster than anything I have seen in daoc.
His nukes seem to hit me faster than anything I have seen in daoc.
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in the history of this server only one guild actually 'owned' whenever they came out in force and that was Llaw.
shame they became so dire after the fame/elesias/wuren etc left, cos really they took what nolby were trying to do and made it actually work.
shame they became so dire after the fame/elesias/wuren etc left, cos really they took what nolby were trying to do and made it actually work.
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old LA were the best but then again they were one of the only balanced guild groups back then
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yeah old LA were always very very tuff, i think we'd do better these days with the right grp but so rarely do we get perfect grps
NP the old reliable really, some of the newbies suck but when u meet the old hands u know about it
All the "name" mid RvR guilds r tuff now with aoe stun mezz/instamezz and a high zerker population doing 35% too much damage in the first place (according to mythic) +20% added on top, means they can chew thru half ur grp in seconds, giv stlong nerfage!
NP the old reliable really, some of the newbies suck but when u meet the old hands u know about it
All the "name" mid RvR guilds r tuff now with aoe stun mezz/instamezz and a high zerker population doing 35% too much damage in the first place (according to mythic) +20% added on top, means they can chew thru half ur grp in seconds, giv stlong nerfage!
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I fear all well balanced groups cause i'm a solo scout and they f00k me to shit.
Oh and saw Venomski whit his animist at a Fins group on prydwen 3 days ago.
Oh and saw Venomski whit his animist at a Fins group on prydwen 3 days ago.
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Elric IA
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Originally posted by beehappy
heh how much deathspams must i do, then u fear me?
oki-oki.. see u in Emain.
Thought you preferred the gorge Bee?
Anyway
Alb guilds FC/Bretheren as these are the ones i seem to run into most on trips I do to Odins where it is easy to identify guild groups. Emain it tends to be harder to pick up groups.
Mid guilds the one with all the chars name xxxxdorf in it are quite tough a bunch of anklebiters which you cannot see. Old NP.
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fist cowhort ? nah thats just crap
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mid: NP and any mediocre group with 2 healers
alb: none
alb: none
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Ensceptifica
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Alb guilds: none that I can identify as a guild. Only ever see random alb fgs in Odin's or big zergs of albs in Emain. FC seems to try a lot and I think they're getting better. Ofcourse the lack of relics plays a part, but alb fgs just hardly ever beat a hib fg.
Mid guilds: Don't really know a lot of em. NP are hard but usually seem to move with between 8 to 12 peeps and are best at getting a jump on peeps not properly paying attention. RG are hard but I can't remember having seen em as just 1fg. And there was that band of dorfs who I think were ex-albs. They put up some good fights when they were all together in a group.
My own guild often travels around with less than 8 peeps, and still manages to survive a lot of encounters that way. It's also very relaxing to be able to go to DL, wait 5 mins for a decent amount of peeps to show up, maybe invite Talivar coz he's always around anyway and just move with whoever has come... Sure we risk getting killed coz a lot of guilds move as 2fg now, but I absolutely prefer moving as 1fg max. 2fgs requires more coordination, you reduce the challenge of most encounters and promote zerging (2 guild fg can be so hard compared to random groups that random peeps need to be in 3fg or more to beat them).
Mid guilds: Don't really know a lot of em. NP are hard but usually seem to move with between 8 to 12 peeps and are best at getting a jump on peeps not properly paying attention. RG are hard but I can't remember having seen em as just 1fg. And there was that band of dorfs who I think were ex-albs. They put up some good fights when they were all together in a group.
My own guild often travels around with less than 8 peeps, and still manages to survive a lot of encounters that way. It's also very relaxing to be able to go to DL, wait 5 mins for a decent amount of peeps to show up, maybe invite Talivar coz he's always around anyway
and just move with whoever has come... Sure we risk getting killed coz a lot of guilds move as 2fg now, but I absolutely prefer moving as 1fg max. 2fgs requires more coordination, you reduce the challenge of most encounters and promote zerging (2 guild fg can be so hard compared to random groups that random peeps need to be in 3fg or more to beat them).
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old.Nol
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NP & Black Falcons for me, no fear, just respect.
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Originally posted by wrathofsauron
Zergers of albion in emain every night
Not again...
Old LA/NP - new ones are just annoying
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im sorry but I don't understand what you mean by saying someone pwn NP Censi or anyone else... maybe it's just cause I havn't rvr:ed very much recently but when I did rvr a few weeks ago we kinda didn't have any casaulties while fighting balanced fg vs fg. so what you say is pure bs maybe you pwned someone with a similar cloak.. but it sure wasn't a balanced np group ;p .. and as for my opinion for hard fg:s... well BoF + SoS can be quite nasty for a tank group =) but have no fear.. Midgard got Perfect RecoverY!!
maybe you pwned someone with a similar cloak.. but it sure wasn't a balanced np group ;p .. and as for my opinion for hard fg:s... well BoF + SoS can be quite nasty for a tank group =) but have no fear.. Midgard got Perfect RecoverY!!
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guild fg's, old.LA, damn they were hard to beat. Unfortunately can't compare recent guilds cause none really travel as 1fg Odin's fg's we always run into are always mixed, either that or tailing another fg or 2. Definately tho, old.LA were the best RvR'ers to date.
Odin's fg's we always run into are always mixed, either that or tailing another fg or 2. Definately tho, old.LA were the best RvR'ers to date.
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LoL.
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soth-zorena
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Originally posted by JawZ
im sorry but I don't understand what you mean by saying someone pwn NP Censi or anyone else... maybe it's just cause I havn't rvr:ed very much recently but when I did rvr a few weeks ago we kinda didn't have any casaulties while fighting balanced fg vs fg. so what you say is pure bs
I dont have PR <<< such a noob.
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Old LA was definitely the best guild ever, even so good that i usually got frustrated of rvr because of em and quit
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Albs with BoF, or the good hibbiegroups.
Albs without BoF is a joke, even FC, who I thought would be a good rvr-guild.
Albs without BoF is a joke, even FC, who I thought would be a good rvr-guild.
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I dont think I ever 'feared' a guild unless we're talking a guild bringing out a zerg.. closest would probably be when VGN decided to bring 2 fg + adds.
however, best respect to CF in the old days I think.. after that, the old VGN crew that later became the old LA.
after wuren and co. stopped, LA became just like any other decent hib group, they kinda lost their edge when their leaders left and mid got overpowered end regen.. its getting nerfed now, comming back soon wuren? :>
albs, FC for running away from the zerg once in a week or so
I'm sure I would know more good alb groups if I ever met some un-zergish more than just rarely.
however, best respect to CF in the old days I think.. after that, the old VGN crew that later became the old LA.
after wuren and co. stopped, LA became just like any other decent hib group, they kinda lost their edge when their leaders left and mid got overpowered end regen.. its getting nerfed now, comming back soon wuren? :>
albs, FC for running away from the zerg once in a week or so
I'm sure I would know more good alb groups if I ever met some un-zergish more than just rarely.
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when i played mid it was the old LA with wuren and co, Fc were a nice fight when they werent in the zerg
sory zoyster your not gonna get the answer u desire from most people here
sory zoyster your not gonna get the answer u desire from most people here
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Mkay. You have right your own opinion but
a) what lurikeen ranger is doing in balanced grp?
b) What is this IG? Sory, but i dont know anything about you
c) if you dont fear anyone in fg vs fg, the why do you move with bigger formations and die when you try to go with fg only?
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:eek2:
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Dont really fear any guilds but there are some guilds that can change the tide of the battle even if you get jump on them with mez, some to mention are BF and NP i guess, sometimes HB as well. Old NP was crap imo, back then no1 had high resists and very rarely did you see many zerkers in 1 group, usually had 3-4 runies wich all could be 2 shotted due to low resists, venomski kalli supreme, all easy rps when fighting in fair numbers
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Originally posted by horsma
Mkay. You have right your own opinion but
a) what gimped lurikeen ranger is doing in balanced grp?
b) What is this neverheard IG?
c) if you dont fear anyone in fg vs fg, the why do you move with bigger formations and die when you try to go with fg only?
A ranger is great to have in groups imho. Never seen anyone make so many casualties unseen like Clicc can, even when he's not stealthed ( ;
IG = Ithil Galad. Tbh we have our very good and very bad days in RvR ( ; Green/yellow cloaks, and the part about pwning NP without casualties is a bit exaggerated imho. We do beat them 1fg-1fg often enough and on a good day maybe even without casualties, but it depends heavily on the amount of healers NP bring and the amount of protection we're able to provide to our casters/druid/bard/warden. NP are far from weak and require our full atttention if we don't want to get whiped. IG's main problem is that we're usually a fg of support classes imho, and don't pack enough punch to take out mid tanks fast enough when they have enough healers.
Relics help ofcourse... an IG group hardly ever has a mage in RvR for no reason at all really, while that is the strength of Hib. Just everybody seems to want to play either a shade, blademaster or bard
Meanwhile we see the VGN/LA mages DM spam the screen ( ; When we do bring mages, odds increase in our favor the same way a tank heavy mid group works in their favor.fg-fg are the most amusing and challenging fights. We often move with less than a fg and still manage to survive fg encounters often enough, which gives a lot more satisfaction than pwning with 12 peeps or even 2fg imho. I don't mind moving with a hib zerg every now and then to get rid of some big invading zerg, but most in IG avoid big hib zergs like that at all costs.
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Kinda sad Albs really NEED the RA to be competitive... Ah well let's wait for the LA-nerf...
(on a side-note: Zerker hit me for 274 on mainhand with BOF on, what the fuck?)