Where was everyone weds night?

[Haggus]

Hope PvP <3

 

[Eleasias]

just reroll avalon already, its definately worth the pain. constant 8vs8 action, groups of all levels etc etc xD think you're wasting your time waiting for ava group to come back, i know i havent had this much fun in daoc in a long long time

 

[Cromcruaich]

just reroll avalon already, its definately worth the pain. constant 8vs8 action, groups of all levels etc etc xD think you're wasting your time waiting for ava group to come back, i know i havent had this much fun in daoc in a long long time

I simply couldnt face reading all the items n stuff in german.

 

[Eleasias]

I simply couldnt face reading all the items n stuff in german.

its worth it

 

[Sharkith]

sorry nope - I would find it easier to cancel.

 

[swords]

sorry nope - I would find it easier to cancel.

^^

 

[Maeloch]

There was some discussion in grp about trying the project camlann thing, it was pretty close. But after seeing how that went - ie same way as glast or whatever b4, ie those who move first get bored b4 the more casual players finish pve - I think anyone arguing for that won't get much of a hearing.

Think we going down with the ship, quit or wait till pan-euro cluster.

 

[Jor]

I was on guild Raid (Summoner in PoC) Crom

stay cool matey - all good.

 

[Vodkafairy]

There was some discussion in grp about trying the project camlann thing, it was pretty close. But after seeing how that went - ie same way as glast or whatever b4, ie those who move first get bored b4 the more casual players finish pve - I think anyone arguing for that won't get much of a hearing.

two totally different things - glaston and camlann were to create a community which went fine for a short while, ava already has a big, established and succesful community that you can join.

+ clustering possibility when the action decreases too much, something the english cluster doesn't really have anymore.

 

[Moneo]

We had a bad Shift week, so 2ppl not available...but we will try to play Su-Do next week!

 

[AngelHeal]

...even though NFD is the best guild ive been in..

Avalon/Salis are the best server s for me atm..

Sooo much action it's really awesom..

Avalon, had about 10fgs running on a evening in agramon.. !!
Salis, allways fg again.. and this evening about 50 mids 30 hibs and 10 albs in thid it's soo fun!!

why??? BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE

 

[Sharkith]

two totally different things - glaston and camlann were to create a community which went fine for a short while, ava already has a big, established and succesful community that you can join.

+ clustering possibility when the action decreases too much, something the english cluster doesn't really have anymore.

yeah you guys have a point but for some of us when we ML'ed toons it almost cost us a lot in RL stuff (you have no idea how much) - I cannot do it anymore - soz for me this is as far as I can go - I cannot even finish my respec on shade.

I just cannot constantly renew my toons on new servers - it is a case of simply seeing this as close to the end if the group folds I fold. A lot of you guys are in different RL situations - and good for you. For me it is a major no no.

No argument - just more people logging for good probably than moved.

why??? BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE

good luck - see you guys later for now I follow the group if they stop - thats it over - Lubs you folks

 

[Vodkafairy]

I just cannot constantly renew my toons on new servers - it is a case of simply seeing this as close to the end if the group folds I fold. A lot of you guys are in different RL situations - and good for you. For me it is a major no no.

hm, my post wasn't in any way meant to convince people to reroll - just that this can't be compared to glaston or camlann in any way. people claim it's doomed to fail for the same reasons but that's simply bullshit

 

[Maeloch]

just that this can't be compared to glaston or camlann in any way. people claim it's doomed to fail for the same reasons but that's simply bullshit

Well, look at some of the posts from about the time of glast/camlann moves and the rerollers snotty comments are pretty laughable in retrospect...so can't blame peeps for being sceptical. For the record, I think ur right that avalon has defo more staying power, but like shark sez, the gamble just either not worth it or possible for some peeps.

 

[Raven]

daoc is dead on the english servers the only people left seem to be RP horny wankers, i wish those that have the time to re-roll to Avalon the best of luck. i just hope for your sake they don't cluster excal/pryd with Avalon.

 

[Vodkafairy]

Well, look at some of the posts from about the time of glast/camlann moves and the rerollers snotty comments are pretty laughable in retrospect...so can't blame peeps for being sceptical.

yes except there is no reason to be sceptical. we are around rr8 now and still having a lot of fun, the other cluster group are around rr5-6 now and they are having a blast too.

/shrug

 

[Maeloch]

yes except there is no reason to be sceptical. we are around rr8 now and still having a lot of fun, the other cluster group are around rr5-6 now and they are having a blast too.

/shrug

From our PoV not yours.

 

[Kuhan]

cant make mass rp's on hib cluster so lets all roll avalon for the extra 300k

 

[Sharkith]

hm, my post wasn't in any way meant to convince people to reroll - just that this can't be compared to glaston or camlann in any way. people claim it's doomed to fail for the same reasons but that's simply bullshit

I have never made that claim though so I will respond from the perspective I have which is - I can't do it.

Now think about this - you guys have rerolled many of you play 4-5 nights a week and can hit high rr fairly quickly. A lot of us played relatively casually - at most 3 nights a week usually two. There are reasons why we can only do that RL reasons. For us it is not a case of being lazy its a case of being unable.

Then my last point is when you guys come on here and post you almost seem to gloat about how good it is - how do you think that feels?

 

[SkarIronfist]

daoc is dead on the english servers the only people left seem to be RP horny wankers, i wish those that have the time to re-roll to Avalon the best of luck. i just hope for your sake they don't cluster excal/pryd with Avalon.

I think this very very unjust.

If you have significant free time, then re rolling to Avalon is an option. But as Shakrith has pointed out many times in the last page is ...

"People Don't Have Time".

If you can run 4/5 nights a week, you can in theory rack up 300 - 400k a week in a damm good team. This hammers you up to RR6 in no time at all. But for those who can manage 1 - 3 nights a week (RR7 + RR8 would be 3 week and 6 weeks later). Then you are looking at a damm sight longer to be competitive.

I am not RP Horny, what I do have is a bloody good group, which is stable/reliable/reasonably mentally well balanced & play well (+ a good bunch of people who will fill in), for all those who run, or partake in FGs then they can appreciate the enormous worth of this.

Should we reroll to another server. Where we have to rebuild characters, with all the bells and whistles and potentially sunder the group. Since this is always a great risk, I am sure many would agree ?

As sharkith pointed out (Even though its easier now), its still a major time commitment. It just doesn't wash and if I am going to annoy my partner, its going to be with some mad cap leveling in Warhammer.

I get the impression that if Prydwen/Excal was clustered with Avalon, you obviously feel we are getting some easier short cut. Wrong, we have commitments outside of this piece of interactive software.

I think you may well have a may well have a very niave and simplified view of life, and potentially as you grow your wisdom will advance with your age. To put it simply I don't like being called a wanker in the manner you meant, if you meant it in a non derogatary manner, then you have me bang to rights...... (Though I don't think I got the intonenation wrong though)

 

[toxii]

we are around rr8 now and still having a lot of fun,

who wouldnt with 10h sessions and 3pow 2stre relix till the day b4 yesterday?

guess only mael having probs now, with .de grps adding on their fights bcos they break the 8vs8 rules ^^
but when i was talking about strafe and kite everyone was saying bs about how good and cuddly ze germans are ;p

 

[Calmin]

I think some of us just wanted NFD to come to avalon because we're having fun and we wub you crazy guys...but ofc real life dictates game time so I understand why you guys cant do it.

Im sure enough guilds will be in the same boat that 8v8 survives on cluster until some of the avalon groups return....if they do ofc.


Clustering avalon with excal / pryd would be so funny...god knows what toon i'd play then! And i've gotten used to ze german spelling!

 

[Vodkafairy]

who wouldnt with 10h sessions and 3pow 2stre relix till the day b4 yesterday?

guess only mael having probs now, with .de grps adding on their fights bcos they break the 8vs8 rules ^^
but when i was talking about strafe and kite everyone was saying bs about how good and cuddly ze germans are ;p

you really know how to spout a lot of bullshit don't you? the relic situation has changed a lot and the 5 relic period was quite short. next to that, we play 20-23 and the 10 hour sessions are something you just pulled out of your ass or smt.

and the 'germans add on mael for breaking rules' is bullshit aswell, they got jumped while resting once yesterday by a grp who isn't a part of the 8v8 community. the fact gerina strafes like hell has nothing to do with it (tho he should just stop it)

mayhap i didn't see your attempt to be funny, but atleast you're not + you can hardly be more incorrect.

and sharky- iirc every post regarding avalon ive made has been a reply to other people, not just to 'gloat' or convince people to come there. can understand your argument tho, time to just cluster

 

[Sharkith]

I think some of us just wanted NFD to come to avalon because we're having fun and we wub you crazy guys...but ofc real life dictates game time so I understand why you guys cant do it.

Im sure enough guilds will be in the same boat that 8v8 survives on cluster until some of the avalon groups return....if they do ofc.


Clustering avalon with excal / pryd would be so funny...god knows what toon i'd play then! And i've gotten used to ze german spelling!

don't get me wrong here either - its quite sad to see you guys go because you brought a lot to our gaming time and a lot of you were dammed difficult to beat. I am glad you have something to keep you interested and that the game is good for you.

I still love the group of people I play with here. I would not give that up for anything. So long as they play I will stay. If they all moved I would move but things like ML's would be so difficult - I could not get the time to fully ML more than 2 toons here and I would never ask anyone to do it for me. I only have one group character and thats the way it is going to stay.

Its still pretty good here although noticeably quieter on certain nights. Like we said though we don't hate you for wanting your game to improve it is understandable.

Theres no need to get antagonistic people move on and we should wish them the best of luck - who knows maybe GOA will raise the issue of a cluster with Avalon - that would be an interesting prospect!

 

[Eleasias]

we've told everyone in grp to stop strafing and dunno whos still doing it, but prolly gerina, he did it atleast day before yesterday but i've told everyone to stop if already xd

 

[Cromcruaich]

Nice posts shark and vodka. And thanks Calmin

Personally i'm in the same boat as shark, and agree with his posts pretty much 100%.

As to clustering up servers, I expect it is currently impossible because they are different language version. Unless anyone knows different?

 

[Calmin]

Nice posts shark and vodka. And thanks Calmin

Personally i'm in the same boat as shark, and agree with his posts pretty much 100%.

As to clustering up servers, I expect it is currently impossible because they are different language version. Unless anyone knows different?

Tbh if they offered to cluster with avalon and said...look the majority of people speak german so its going to be in german...i'd still recommend clustering....they all speak english and working out items takes about 3 days to get the hang of if that.

 

[charmangle]

daoc is dead on the english servers the only people left seem to be RP horny wankers, i wish those that have the time to re-roll to Avalon the best of luck. i just hope for your sake they don't cluster excal/pryd with Avalon.

About the whole avalon thing...

I was against project camlann, I was against classic server, I was really against avalon...

I knew project camlann had a snowballs chance in hell to make it, I was even more sure that classic stood no chance what so ever (its just a rediculous idea to first cluster the english community into one with one hand, then with the other you split it into two again with another name...)

About avalon, Im pretty sure its the server that will last the longest in europe before the game dies...but the german, oooh the freaking german. I was getting flashbacks to my old german classes in school.

After ALOT of nagging by some friends they finally got me to try it out abit atleast...and to be honest,it was alot easier than I thought. First of all, its only about half the text that are in german...since your skin is still in english...and somehow you are getting english text even ingame at times...

Also, with the charplanner (in german/english as choice) you can use the switch there to just translate those names etc you dont understand. And if that doesnt work you can very easily use bablefish to translate for you (webpage that translates languages). It was ALOT easier than I thought...

And thats doing it the hard way...most of the people on avalon speak english when spoken to in english, and they are very very very helpful and friendly, almost like people were when I first started playing 3 years ago. So when in doubt, just ask anyone around...

And if you choose to reroll the same realm you are already playing and is used to, id saying the german will cause you a minimum of discomfort. Merly an annoying feature that goes away after 1 or 2 playing sessions. And as you venture out in thid or real rvr all your doubts just fly out the window...its just so much darn fun...
Or as the most sceptic HoS:ie said: "Damn where ever I go there are people!"...and thats true for both PvE and RvR...

Now dont get me wrong here, I will always consider prydwen my primary server, but damn...even just going out solo in instances are so much more fun on avalon than anything on cluster atm!:/

About clustering more european servers, didnt GoA state that they wount/cant do that? Clustering servers with different languages or set of rules (rvr/classic server with normal servers) I mean?

And even if they would cluster avalon and english servers, that would be GREAT for me atleast, since I chose the realm I only have on my nonused account, so I would have the choice of going any realm I wanted at that moment!

Now to those that dont have the time/cant be bothered rerolling because of the hard hard work...

On Alb Avalon atleast, its rediculously easy to get PL. There are spots where necros/sorcs go just to farm cash (premoderna nerf kind of cash), and if you just linguere there for a few nights/days (depending on your preference), youll be 50 before you can say "booring". (a halfway decent sorc/necro will take you from 20-50 in about 7-8 hours in those spots)

Or soloing in instanced dungeons are rediculously easy nowdays...(you go from lvl 20-30ish) the first 3-5 hour session solo with any class but healing classes...

Also they have raids (ml/arti etc) all the time. And with all the time I mean 3-5 raids a day...with a great schedule to organize it...so thats a 1 day thing...

http://daoc-guide.4players.de/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=66

So all in all, even solo and all alone its not more time consuming to get a new char done on Avalon than about 4-5 standard RvR sessions...

If anyone has any questions, Id be more than happy try and help out...just pm me here...

/Charmangle

ps. ID prefere it if we could just get all the Avalon population to the english cluster instead, but thats not really looking likly at the moment though, so for me having the choice an evening between playing on cluster or going Avalon seems the best thing! ds.

 

[Eleasias]

cant make mass rp's on hib cluster so lets all roll avalon for the extra 300k

Ye thats why we did it, we rolled from mid cluster to alb avalon to get rp's!

Getting close and challenging fights (sometimes we get owned though, but sometimes it happens the other way around too! ) has nothing to do with it! Or the fact we died 0-2 times per night on cluster and the average rp's per hour were actually higher on cluster simply to the fact that we hardly ever lost? it just wasnt fun anymore


as for NFD ppl, its a shame if there was anything short of doing the pve for you i'd help, always loved fighting you guys and the group's attitude is excactly what fg vs fg is about, lot of respect for the whole bunch of you

avalon atm is like cluster at its best time i think, cant wait for even more action if avalon gets clustered :]

unless something really drastic happens i dont think you'll see us playing a group on cluster in a long long time.

as for getting rp's on avalon, its easy if you have the time to do some dayfarming, you can play proper zerg warfare without being marked a lamer in fg community and get some basic ra's quite fast.

 

[toxii]

you really know how to spout a lot of bullshit don't you?

(neoD[ml]) question was why they add in agramon
(Shadownz) they add on strafers
(neoD[ml]) lol
(Shadownz) what's so funny
(neoD[ml]) we΄re not strafing ?
(Shadownz) neoD[ml] our tanks say different things

where is ze bullshit factor?

the relic situation has changed a lot and the 5 relic period was quite short. next to that, we play 20-23 and the 10 hour sessions are something you just pulled out of your ass or smt.

you mean in the last 2 days ? and how long did you have 3 power?
10h sessions may've been far fetched, but theres still screenshots from .it fanbois in my grp