whats up with the hatred of np?

[gwal]

hmm, how can ppl keep this np hatred up?

what is it that they do thats so wrong, move around in 2 fg+? ofc they do, its called guild rvr, a lot of guilds do it.

is it because they are actually able to give some good fights when in even numbers? of course they are, they have a lot of high rr players (on excal at least), and they have a lot of rvr experience, not to mention all the guild hunts have made them aware of how to support each other in the best possible way.

not like they are the only guild capable of this, quite a lot of other such guilds around, some whom have enjoyed much success through their time as well (LA, FC on excal to name some). only difference is, other guilds may not have as many members, as many who regulary goes rvr, or as many guild hunts.

imo, any guild with good player, and the right classes, can go do the excact same thing - guild hunt each day on rvr, isnt that what an rvr guild is about?

I do realise that some ppl dont like np becuse of their behaviour, but why all the whines about them on rvr. how hard can it be to stop whining and get ur guild/alliance together, train rvr and go kick their arse instead.

sorry if any get offended, just getting a bit tired of al the whines, and I´m pretty sure a lot of others are as well.

 

[Archeon]

I think most people are getting tired by it now, i know i am. But its a forum trend what can you do?

Besides, i think its kinda simmered down now. Which is just as well, flaming a realm is ok in my book its all part of the fun but flaming specific guilds is... well its fairly lame to be honest.

 

[Dook_Pug]

It's not their skill or RvR prowess. It's the attitude of alot of their members.

I know some excellent NP players with diamond personalities and then I know some total twats that come into IRC, brag about how uber they are and just generally make fools out of themselves.

Unfortunately people tend to focus on the bad side of things rather than look at them from all angles.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Albs hate us so much they zerged us all last night

 

[Nightchill]

it was a nice zerg tho

 

[tris-]

simply because NP are better than them. yes they are my enemy on pryd but i havent see any other mid groups or hib groups who fight better than them.

 

[Aravis]

I think the main reason they are disliked (I won't say hate I don't think it's quite that bad) on Prydwen is that when they started RvR there they helped force it back to teh Zerg when it had just started to settle back down to, mostly, 1fg v 1fg.

Whether it is right or wrong is debatable, but a lot of players liked the non-zerg RvR.

 

[inqy]

act like twats, get treated like twats. where's the problem with that?

It has nothing to do with daoc.

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by Aravis
I think the main reason they are disliked (I won't say hate I don't think it's quite that bad) on Prydwen is that when they started RvR there they helped force it back to teh Zerg when it had just started to settle back down to, mostly, 1fg v 1fg.

Whether it is right or wrong is debatable, but a lot of players liked the non-zerg RvR.

That was merely the excuse people used because they weren't used to losing the way they did against us on this server.

We run around in 1fg max, unless we get zerged then we come up with 2fg. Running around with 2fgs all the time is very tiresome, it requires double the amount of concentration, double the amount of waiting for people who go ld and half the amount of rps.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by -nicolas-


That was merely the excuse people used because they weren't used to losing the way they did against us on this server.

We run around in 1fg max, unless we get zerged then we come up with 2fg. Running around with 2fgs all the time is very tiresome, it requires double the amount of concentration, double the amount of waiting for people who go ld and half the amount of rps.

How one sided of you!

I believe it's a mixture of both.

Shock at the competitiveness of NP and the fact that it changed Prydwen RvR entirely.

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug


How one sided of you!

I believe it's a mixture of both.

Shock at the competitiveness of NP and the fact that it changed Prydwen RvR entirely.

Ofcourse I am biased

I agree it has changed Prydwen rvr, but not in the way so many albs are whining about.

 

[Damon_D]

Basicly I think peopel are just tirred of the over powered classes NP is running with.. and therefore they get alot of heat.. and what Dook said Besides that I'm sure I saw one of em hump my pear-tree.. how will I ever be able to eat a pear from it again ??
Bloody tree-hugging freaks

 

[Fafnir]

Did about 1k damage on NP at amgH before goin down, think thats pretty good for a thane against 1fg+ after just killing a minst on mid side and chasing another one away. Yes our bellow is so overpowerd, but nice i got to use it twice

Guess i got the jump on them for once, normally its just mezz, stun, 2-3 nukes and i'm dead.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Originally posted by Aravis
I think the main reason they are disliked (I won't say hate I don't think it's quite that bad) on Prydwen is that when they started RvR there they helped force it back to teh Zerg when it had just started to settle back down to, mostly, 1fg v 1fg.

Whether it is right or wrong is debatable, but a lot of players liked the non-zerg RvR.

So, your making zergs to kill 1fg? We were 2fg runing around last night, but we were split into two fg's..

(Afink the second group wasnt even all NP)

If we changed the rvr don't rvr near us so you won't need to zerg..

 

[primo]

Some of the NPs have a cool attitude are kind etc, but some are complete idiots.

 

[kr0n]

Doesnt that apply to all communitys (read: guilds) ? Some of them are like you (read: cool and fun) and some arent (read: dimwits and fuckers).

 

[j000 d000d]

I don't think it's because of the overpowered classes.

As nearly everyone on Excal hates NP too. Except for a lot of Mids.

 

[tildson]

Dont judge anyone by their behaviour on BW imo

 

[Vell]

A lot of the time, the hatred is based on thier attitude, rather than thier actions. I quote from a NP member here, posted in the last week or so:

lol, and midgard was uber gimped when it was only 3-4 NPs playing active on mid/excal, so stfu with saying we arent contributing.

And people wonder why they hate them?

About the contributing part: In the last month or so, this has improved dramatically. Before this, they did very little work for the realm. My opinion of them has gone up, as has many of them, but they still have work to do to bring thier reputation up.

A lot of the bitterness is due to thier attitude, and things they have done in the past:

I remember the days of NP turning up to "save the day", ressing their own people and then leaving us dead on the ground...very nice NOT

Or the last successful relic raid the albs did on us (back in November) where NP ran around emain, and didn't even attempt to defend, yet every single member of GoV was there, throwing oursleves at the albs in attempt to stop them (of course, we failed), but NP did nothing to help.


Like I said, behavior like this has damaged their reputation, some would say irrepairably. However, if they keep up the good work they have been doing over the past couple of weeks, they will find more people start to like them.



Note: This is not a np hate post. It's a post to try and make you understand why people don't like np.

 

[Freppe^^]

Where are the ppl that usually flame em? Do you got a hard time to come forward , speaking up when its a non-flame thread bout them? Lamers is all i can say...

This hatred of NP is just pathetic. NP is and allways been a great guild, contributed alot to their realm in one way or another. Many of you may not see this since you're just focusing on the negative things, such as guild members manners or whateva. You gotta know that ppl don't allways come along with each other, it's the same IRL. To blame a guild for one guys behaviour is just lame.
IMHO the guild is not responsable for what the player do or not do. Remember this next time you speak of em. Just some of my thoughts and i hope you keep those NP flames out of this forums as much as you can. Its not even worth the time to read it.

Regards, Freppe

 

[SilverHood]

you're just focusing on the negative things, such as guild members manners or whateva.
To blame a guild for one guys behaviour is just lame.
IMHO the guild is not responsable for what the player do or not do.

You're serious right?
Player X acts like a utter moron. Player X is in guild Y.
People associate guild Y with the attitude player X showed.

When player E, F, G and H all show the same attitude as player X, all beloning to guild Y, people take a dislike to the guild.*

*( In case you didn't get it: Substitute letters X, E, F, G and H for NP players, and Y for the guild Nolby Pride)

 

[Sigurd]

Why would anyone like someone who is too arrogant to help out their realm, yet has a face like a mangled car wreck irl?

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by SilverHood




You're serious right?
Player X acts like a utter moron. Player X is in guild Y.
People associate guild Y with the attitude player X showed.

When player E, F, G and H all show the same attitude as player X, all beloning to guild Y, people take a dislike to the guild.*

*( In case you didn't get it: Substitute letters X, E, F, G and H for NP players, and Y for the guild Nolby Pride)

Lets say ur guild leader for a guild aye.
And you invite a bunch of peeps that seems okey right.
I name em x,e,f,g .. they act like "utter morons" to ppl outside the guild, how should the gm's know bout that? AND WHY SHOULD THE GUILD BE BLAMED FOR THAT? if that doesnt make sense to you i dont know what to do. The ppl should be blamed, not the entire guild.

 

[Aoln]

Originally posted by the_chimera
yet has a face like a mangled car wreck irl?

Gifv names

 

[SilverHood]

well, if someone from my guild misbehaves badly (i'm not GM), they usually get a warning. Repeat ofenders get a kick.
How should the GM's know? PM's, read the boards, etc.

Should the guild be blamed? Yes - especially if the guild condones bad manners, arrogance and tossers. If the guild apologises, or removes the offending players, then no.
NP falls into the second category. Imho, anyway

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by SilverHood
.
How should the GM's know? PM's, read the boards, etc.

Read the forums aye? where they blame the whole guild for one persons misstake , kthx, now i know how u r .

 

[SilverHood]

where they blame the whole guild for one person, kthx, now i know how u r .

There's more than 1 person in NP... and there's more than 1 person acting like a tosser, from NP, on these boards.

 

[j000 d000d]

Show me an example of a NP member acting like a dick in a normal thread. (not a whinethread)

And more than 1 person, of course.

 

[old.tRoG]

Erm... suxx0r.

*runs away*

 

[old.Jable]

i remember pwrlvling np members sitting outside dl ganking greys for weaks at the very start of retail. thats what np mean to me.