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Muylaetrix

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Winning isnt right when you will go to whatever lengths to do it (i.e. cheat, unfair fight, superiour numbers, di bots)

that`s a bit of an unfair comparison.

cheats are a nogo ofc.

unfair fights cover a big range of possibilities really. is rr 10 vs rr 1 fair ? is a set fg vs a pug fair ?

superior numbers. it`s one of the core concepts of this game. no instanced 4 vs 4 or 8 vs 8... out there, you can run into anything.

di bots. agh, in the begining people ran unbuffed. then people started using buffs, and oh noes, the BB came into existance. not really fair hugh ? buffed vs unbuffed ? no it is not. since we had speed bots, guard bots, BG bots, grapple bots.

i don`t see the problem as long as you don`t consider such a `duo` a soloer.
 

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I just re-whine :p. See rather more Hibs with DI bots out than Albs, Frogs and Nullifidian and Thidy**** to name a few. But who cares, ideally they give twice the RPs and in the bad case you can shrug and blame the DI bot for getting owned.

These wouldnt by any chance be ex albs, hmm? :)
 

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roleplay the server until death

i had some fun playing for a few days on hib, then comes the roleplay squad out every night to break every single port and their "primetime" relic raids which have failed so far..... they will eventually have all the relics..... then they will wonder why there is nothing to fight

majority of albs like horner, muyl, sick and all of the other CM spicks and other roleplay idiots are killing what little RvR is left on this server by zerging and taking keeps when people dont want to fuck about with seige...... i dont give a shit if its prime time or not, people log on, see flames here flames there, not able to port anywhere and think why the fuck bother..... they will eventually get the relics.... at whatever time they take them and hib/mid wont have the numbers or the will to take them back. Then what will happen? albion will run around breaking all the ports and taking every keep in there genius idea to get more action.

When will you stupid fucks realise

and i dont know why i bother its like hitting my head against a brick wall

and in reply to whatever bullshit comment you come up with muyl likening RvR to a tin of fucking beans or whatever... GO F**K YOURSELF

Glad I quit, server sounds like Camlann:(
 

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In a way I feel sorry for the albs here...

Wtf I guess you are thinking.

Well it seems to me they cannot win. They attack mid and get told they are driving the mids out of the game. They attack hib and no doubt will generate a thread about chasing relics, becoming too powerful and driving other realms out of the game. With the current mindset they are never going to do something both other realms approve of (other than ducking back to the PvE side of their frontier keeps I guess).

It is no good harping back on the good old days. The game has changed and the issue is now about how the player base has adapted to the change.

The population is smaller in general and thus the alb numbers seem to make more of a difference. Also the playstyle that Muly refers to does not suit everyone and when the numbers are lower playstyles become more of an issue.

Perhaps people need to lower their expectations a little and be more flexible in their own gamestyles and thinking. We all play for fun and the challenge the game can bring and when it ceases to be fun or becomes too frustrating people leave.

No easy answers I guess. I am sure bridge camping and tower humping is a turn off for some, just as much as running solo or in a fg and getting killed every few minutes is to others.

No easy answers and for sure a lot more thought required.
 

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Well when we put our grp out tonight there was soo little action. we were hoping for some roaming fg v fg. but with little to no enemy roaming we were forced to take hurb tower and bring action to us.

Would be nice to see more roaming groups, but often thats not possible, I guess its down to a population thing really, shame but its how it is.
 

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Well when we put our grp out tonight there was soo little action. we were hoping for some roaming fg v fg. but with little to no enemy roaming we were forced to take hurb tower and bring action to us.

Would be nice to see more roaming groups, but often thats not possible, I guess its down to a population thing really, shame but its how it is.

tbh thats some of the reason albs attack towers and keeps might be an idea to get 8V8 agromon nights going again (well untill all the action end up in the laby)
 

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tbh thats some of the reason albs attack towers and keeps might be an idea to get 8V8 agromon nights going again (well untill all the action end up in the laby)

Nice in theory but for agramon to work properly you need a good 6 groups ideally 2 from each realm. and atm were lucky if 1 grp from each realm is out.

People dont want to roam agramon when there might be only one other group there.

Kinda like roaming frontiers when groups are out is always nice, but pop too low atm or just not enough people in guilds / alliances to form groups. At times its good, and those times seem to be iRVR when people come out the woodwork:)
 

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Kinda like Manisch i guess? :eek:

a little two faced are we? if you want some mud throwing your way id be happy to oblige as manisch is quite pointless as he looks like.... well pip said already
 

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a little two faced are we? if you want some mud throwing your way id be happy to oblige as manisch is quite pointless as he looks like.... well pip said already


bonedancer vs grapplebot how cute
 

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that`s a bit of an unfair comparison.

cheats are a nogo ofc.

unfair fights cover a big range of possibilities really. is rr 10 vs rr 1 fair ? is a set fg vs a pug fair ?

superior numbers. it`s one of the core concepts of this game. no instanced 4 vs 4 or 8 vs 8... out there, you can run into anything.

di bots. agh, in the begining people ran unbuffed. then people started using buffs, and oh noes, the BB came into existance. not really fair hugh ? buffed vs unbuffed ? no it is not. since we had speed bots, guard bots, BG bots, grapple bots.

i don`t see the problem as long as you don`t consider such a `duo` a soloer.

You don't see the problem because you play a caster, as a caster, I consider DI bots an easy way of doubling my rps (unless its horner, who youve gotta always handle with care), however, it must just be a complete pain for melee classes. If it happens to be a sorc, visible meleers dont even have the chance to run as they will get ran down by sorc (or other speed class caster).

So personally, I don't care about bb's, but I can see how it is really a pain for some classes. BB in tower is annoying, especially with albs and their reticence to move from fortified spots - but you can just leave em to rot in their and not give em the sport.
 

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Nice in theory but for agramon to work properly you need a good 6 groups ideally 2 from each realm. and atm were lucky if 1 grp from each realm is out.

As Nadiah says, you require a minimum number of groups to really populate Argamon. There are not enough groups left to make Agramon viable. There may be if everyone logged on the same night, but thats impractical in reality.

Sunday night we (TC) stopped running about 8.30 GMT (After 1.5 hrs) and went to Avalon to do some PvE, I think only AE were running from non mid, which is simply not enough to make it interesting way to spend 4 hours.
 

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send the albs to df... give those of us who been in there a decent fight :p......off to kay myself not going to renew subs with the server as it is...............

Rather not, irritating enough when your 5+ man grp keep killing me while i try to hit 50 on my theurg :p
enough pve killings - go to emain :twak:
 

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As Nadiah says, you require a minimum number of groups to really populate Argamon. There are not enough groups left to make Agramon viable. There may be if everyone logged on the same night, but thats impractical in reality.

Sunday night we (TC) stopped running about 8.30 GMT (After 1.5 hrs) and went to Avalon to do some PvE, I think only AE were running from non mid, which is simply not enough to make it interesting way to spend 4 hours.


The problem also is if your a roaming group can't find any action you will generally head to a bridge area to find some action. this then has the issue of if you do find a fg that you then get solo, duo etc adding, which im not QQ'ing about I would never expect there to be a fg v fg around bridge area without adds. We had this same problem running last night with AE when we found a mid group (SC?) which they pushed to the water but we were not the only hibs killing them as it turned out in the end. iRvr does solve this generally tho
 

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You already have mid relics, but your in our frontier with like 4 FG+. Taken 2 keeps already and then try cutting bled/glen ports, whats up with that?

Was 20 mids in nf at 9 gmt today, my grp logged after we got ravaged by the hoards of albs, so dunno what you expect if your wanting action lol.

Hey Bradlex,

It is clearly frustration show in this post, im sad to see it, but it is understandable.

Some say that the relics does not have an effect, but i disagree. In the start of january, i was home from work, and could play during daytime. Whitelights and others were around 8 CET in the morning forming a BG with the purpose of revenging and retaking the by CM and others taken relic, normally they were there between 5 and 7 CET in the morning.

We could like amen in church be sure that wether we took 1 or 2 relics from the albs, they were promptly retaken during lowest populated hours.

Albs somewhat won the fights here again, due to one single thing: Stamina, and endurance. They kept on retaking and now they have 4 relics.

You, Whitelights and others, have proven good leadership before. There is lacking leadership here, and understanding from players. If i am in RvR the first thing i look for is a BG. Either for defence or for attack. Often we have none. I think, if we are 20 in frontier, we of cause cannot do much, if we are 40 - 50 we can, we were that in the mentioned week, and im sure we can muster that number again.

The first effect of relics are the +10% that all can read about in the game, but the second and worst one is that when a realm has extra relics, it also get a player boost. There are a bit too many of theese "Grass hoppers" they just go where the bonus and the ppl are, and then it is not so fun beeing the relam without relics.


can you please direct the albs to a place where they are allowed to take keeps then ?

no relics to take in midgard doesn`t mean there are no enemies to kill, towers and keeps to take.
hibs won`t mind that some albs don`t try to take another keep in hibernia.
i`m prety sure the hibs are happy that not all albs are trying to take their relics now.
you want all those albs to go run around in hadrians till a mid group sets sail to albion ?
look at your `moto`, you don`t want us in our fronteer, you don`t want us in your fronteer.
does`nt combine.

Mulyaetrix, i kind of hope you can muster enough ppl to go and take 4-5 keeps in hibernia, cause if you do, and you get both relics, it will be fun to see if you are enough to take care of 4 relic keeps in your frontier.

We from mid, have nothing to loose and all to gain.

Cya both out there, hopefully to a large scale war, which is what this game was meant for, and reason for many ppl to play for.

Respect to both of you, for beeing loyal to your realm. Grass hoppers we dont need.

Best regards,

Vonwar
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The problem also is if your a roaming group can't find any action you will generally head to a bridge area to find some action. this then has the issue of if you do find a fg that you then get solo, duo etc adding, which im not QQ'ing about I would never expect there to be a fg v fg around bridge area without adds. We had this same problem running last night with AE when we found a mid group (SC?) which they pushed to the water but we were not the only hibs killing them as it turned out in the end. iRvr does solve this generally tho


Yep it was us. We pushed into the water to try and get some breathing space from the people behind us getting to the healers and AE on the other side. TBH an accepted risk when fighting at the bridge. But apart from AE, there was no one else out (bar Bjokke of course) and it just seemed like we were going to be queuing up with Bjokke to fight you (Abit like taking a ticket and waiting until your number came up).

Hopefully tonight will be better.
 

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a little two faced are we? if you want some mud throwing your way id be happy to oblige as manisch is quite pointless as he looks like.... well pip said already

Oi, you know i wub you and it was merely an attempt to wind up Manisch. :(
Yours and his 'epic battles' in this thread is fun to read tho. :p
 

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You already have mid relics, but your in our frontier with like 4 FG+. Taken 2 keeps already and then try cutting bled/glen ports, whats up with that?

Was 20 mids in nf at 9 gmt today, my grp logged after we got ravaged by the hoards of albs, so dunno what you expect if your wanting action lol.

Thing is Brad what are Mids up 2 tbh all we seen of you lot lately is in Hib ???

Would of thought you priority would be to get you Relics back not pissing around in Hib.

Soulja
 

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Thing is Brad what are Mids up 2 tbh all we seen of you lot lately is in Hib ???

Would of thought you priority would be to get you Relics back not pissing around in Hib.

Soulja
Whats point when albs will just ac em back ?
 

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Oi, you know i wub you and it was merely an attempt to wind up Manisch. :(
Yours and his 'epic battles' in this thread is fun to read tho. :p

thing is none of the so called battles in game where he claims he pwned me actually happened, yeh he killed me with ml9 templar and moc3 when i was really drunk because it resisted a qc root. To beat a sorc that dumps all you need everything to go right for you on a BD, zou or demo resisted and its hard. Its really..... just..... why the hell would someone go on about chain owning someone when it never happened...... dont think you played around the time of the group he was in that added on everything with there 1 trick pony reaver bomb group that were free rps unless they added and dumped everything.... but then they would still die.

Guess i should just ignore it.... but god hes a prick..... just feels like the right thing to do is to give him shit
 

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thing is none of the so called battles in game where he claims he pwned me actually happened, yeh he killed me with ml9 templar and moc3 when i was really drunk because it resisted a qc root. To beat a sorc that dumps all you need everything to go right for you on a BD, zou or demo resisted and its hard. Its really..... just..... why the hell would someone go on about chain owning someone when it never happened...... dont think you played around the time of the group he was in that added on everything with there 1 trick pony reaver bomb group that were free rps unless they added and dumped everything.... but then they would still die.

Guess i should just ignore it.... but god hes a prick..... just feels like the right thing to do is to give him shit
Ye he come out with that crap owning me on wl when they first came out:) when the truth was i owned him:p think he only 12 so don't be to harsh on him.
 

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thing is none of the so called battles in game where he claims he pwned me actually happened, yeh he killed me with ml9 templar and moc3 when i was really drunk because it resisted a qc root. To beat a sorc that dumps all you need everything to go right for you on a BD, zou or demo resisted and its hard. Its really..... just..... why the hell would someone go on about chain owning someone when it never happened...... dont think you played around the time of the group he was in that added on everything with there 1 trick pony reaver bomb group that were free rps unless they added and dumped everything.... but then they would still die.

Guess i should just ignore it.... but god hes a prick..... just feels like the right thing to do is to give him shit

I dont think anyone in their right mind takes Manisch seriously on.... well anything.
It's beyond obvious that 99.999999999% of the shit he spouts are so made up it makes me chuckle just to read the things he contributes with on these boards. ;)

Oh, and on the few occasions when he actually isnt running for best new author of the year who actually cares?
I think its quite obvious that most people will kill most other from time to time and boasting about killing someone in a game, i mean come on, really? :X
 

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Whats point when albs will just ac em back ?

Believe the last Relic Raid they done when you Relics got taken was Primetime nothing to whinge at there Pip it was all nicely done and taken.

Soulja
 

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Believe the last Relic Raid they done when you Relics got taken was Primetime nothing to whinge at there Pip it was all nicely done and taken.

Soulja

if you call 1:30am GMT primetime

again i refer to the time mids took relics at 11:30pm GMT and this was apparently the lamest thing in the world and the scum that did it deserved to be shot according to the majority of albion posters
 

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thing is none of the so called battles in game where he claims he pwned me actually happened, yeh he killed me with ml9 templar and moc3 when i was really drunk because it resisted a qc root. To beat a sorc that dumps all you need everything to go right for you on a BD, zou or demo resisted and its hard. Its really..... just..... why the hell would someone go on about chain owning someone when it never happened...... dont think you played around the time of the group he was in that added on everything with there 1 trick pony reaver bomb group that were free rps unless they added and dumped everything.... but then they would still die.

Guess i should just ignore it.... but god hes a prick..... just feels like the right thing to do is to give him shit

Hahah. So you're drunk at 8-9 am in the morning and the best thing to do is to log on and play BD? I prefer to sleep. I remeber the morning quite well, I killed you one time at the south shore of the Bledmeer docks, then 3 times between Bledmeer Faste (Midgard's hands) and Bledmeer Faste Guardtower (Albion's hands). At the shore you not just failed to root the pet, you just charged to me like a monkey, at the low level keep with no guards, you didn't pan, I came 3 times from the bridge, mezzed you and the pets and just lifetapped you before you knew what happend. Some Mid stealthers got me each time after, but I didn't care, it was worth chaining you.

And FYI, eventhough a lot of people like MoC3 on a lifetap class I don't and I didn't have it back then.

The first time we spoke about this you said you were just tired and not drunk btw.

Must be my colorful imagination if I remeber it all so good :). Saying all that I don't think it's hard to kill any caster with a Sorc if you get the jump and I am wondering why you are trying to defend yourself so badly like you would fight to keep your virginity or something and I just use it to wind you up whenever you call somone shit and free RPs like you like to do it.

Your Hunter been really bad, not sure if you were not able to buy a LW or just too lazy or ....

Cry more about Reavers and the group we ran also, maybe Wisty and the others will come back then. I assume despite the flames on FH everybody in our group respected Maelstrom as the toughest group back then, sadly the only time I remember you being part of it was in a movie where Madi had to tell you to move to a Bainshee and lifetap it ^^.

Septina, if you want to I can make a free hand illustration with my zen movements of pwn that killed Brite for you :p.

Damn, I was good back then on Sorc ;-).
 

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Believe the last Relic Raid they done when you Relics got taken was Primetime nothing to whinge at there Pip it was all nicely done and taken.

Soulja
ROLF Primetime my /ass reason albs took em was due to 2 days of constant alb zerg mids got to sleep some time:( and if i'm not there to deffend relics it don't count:p
 

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if you call 1:30am GMT primetime

again i refer to the time mids took relics at 11:30pm GMT and this was apparently the lamest thing in the world and the scum that did it deserved to be shot according to the majority of albion posters

The raid was primetime from the start. Ok it finished a little late but the raid was well attended by all throughout with plenty of defenders the end.

The time a relic is taken is a difficult one, you could start a raid at 1pm in the afternoon which obviously isn't primetime, do all the groundwork and keep taking and finally capture the relic at 8pm. But just because the relic was taken in primetime doesn't make it a primetime raid.

I would say the only poor time for taking a relic is when there is no one online when you start and end the raid, i.e. 5am in the morning.
 
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