Whate warlock spec?

[Ging]

Read my post again. He did it AFTER the last patch/bug fix.

Anyways we need at least 3 good FGs for this:Spot the pet spammers.

kathal do you consider Pve or rvr as end game on your chars?

If Pve then re-roll a THEURGIST for the petspam of doom!!!

I dont disagree that it is harder for mids to do ml's and some artis, but the benefits you reap time and time again in rvr by far outweigh the hardships you encountered once per char in gettting those artifacts/ml's.

 

[Kathal]

kathal do you consider Pve or rvr as end game on your chars?

If Pve then re-roll a THEURGIST for the petspam of doom!!!

I dont disagree that it is harder for mids to do ml's and some artis, but the benefits you reap time and time again in rvr by far outweigh the hardships you encountered once per char in gettting those artifacts/ml's.

Since you have a bad memory I'll explain how we got to this.

First I quoted this:

most classes require the player to spend time getting equipment, gaining MLs, RAs etc to be "skilled" a warlock needs to spend 24 hours in a good pl group and half an hour on the ME to get some rogs to be "skilled" anyone who says they play a warlock because its fun is either a) feeble minded (a retard) or b) bullshitting

He is complaining that WLs don’t need to spend much time on their char before he can RvR.
So the situation is:
Mids have 1 class they can get rdy in no time (if he choose to RvR with crap items and no MLs).
ALL other mid classes has to do artifacts, MLs. etc the HARD way (without pet spammers).

ALL alb and hib classes do artifacts, MLs etc. with pet spammers (they can easily get all the best items with fewer ppl than mids and therefore a lot more ppl can have uber templates).

So when ppl like him come here and talk about how much time ppl spend on their chars before they can RvR I can only laugh at him.

Ohh and for the record, all the good WLs I know out there all have their MLs and templates done.

 

[Kathal]

Ohh a little more PvE easy mode: http://www.spellfire.co.uk/nevermore/forums/showthread.php?t=536

 

[Eeben]

Ohh a little more PvE easy mode: http://www.spellfire.co.uk/nevermore/forums/showthread.php?t=536

but what has this tread to do with pve? You wanna be op in pve an rvr?

 

[Kathal]

but what has this tread to do with pve? You wanna be op in pve an rvr?

Ok you dont get it either. I was quoting someone that used "time put into chars" as an argument.
I show down his argument with "While WLs can compete with a less uber template and without MLs, all the other mid classes is harder than all the alb/hib classes to get rdy".

When it comes to RvR then yes WLs is a powerful class in SOME situations and VERY gimped in others.

Let’s see . . .
ANY alb/hib caster with NS that mean a WL head on in flat terrain should kill the WL 9 out of 10 times. (WLs NS is either a 5 sec long range spell OR a short range 2 sec uninterruptible spell).
Most Vamps will kill me 10 out of 10 times.
A good Mincer can kill me without getting nuked by me.
Bainshees have a good chance vs a WL.
And so on . . .

But then again 99% of what have been posted in this thread has NOTHING to do with what the thread starter said/asked.

 

[Coldbeard]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/holasis/2k_pbae.jpg

that spec I guess. uke:

 

[Flimgoblin]

Mids have to stay up late on LONG PvE raids to get MLs, Artifacts etc. Albs and hibs can just spam pets.
Don’t you think 99% of the mids would LOVE to trade the WL for a pet spammer ??

PS. If ALL WLs are retards then consider this a slap from a retard, moron.

petspam has little to no effect on any raid with more than 30 people.

Last ML raid I saw in albion there was 1 theurgist out of 79 people.

Whine about petspam is such bullshit - it doesn't affect ML raids, all it lets you do is farm itams (which we've mentioned above warlocks just don't need - heck you don't need MLs either, just go out at level 50 with some rogs on and pwn)

 

[Flimgoblin]

Let’s see . . .
ANY alb/hib caster with NS that mean a WL head on in flat terrain should kill the WL 9 out of 10 times. (WLs NS is either a 5 sec long range spell OR a short range 2 sec uninterruptible spell).
Most Vamps will kill me 10 out of 10 times.
A good Mincer can kill me without getting nuked by me.
Bainshees have a good chance vs a WL.
And so on . . .

Don't forget a chambered nearsight (being insta range 1500 nearsight - not as good as range 2300 admittedly... but hey there's always purge)

Minstrels might be able to kill you if you don't have purge or stun immunity up (in the case of the minstrel)... and no body resists and no slash resists - since if a minstrel is killing you in the time it takes the stun to wear off you really really are a crap warlock (and they're probably high RR)

How do bainshees beat you? their uber 2300 range interrupt taunt (which does precisely nothing)? or is it their focus nearsight that stops you instagibbing them (till they decide they want to do something other than trade nasty looks)

well hurrah for vampiirs... if a vampiir manages to power themselves up on monsters before fighting and run their resist buff (along with an opted template) they can kill a gimp like you

You've got a point though, a light mentalist should have a good chance - range 2300 nearsight and a stun, if you purge one the other should get you.

Pity if you're any other class though.

 

[Leel]

You've got a point though, a light mentalist should have a good chance - range 2300 nearsight and a stun, if you purge one the other should get you.

Pity if you're any other class though.

That should be light eld fyi.

 

[fl3a]

Not everyone that plays a warlock is a retard, but every warlock that i've ever seen post something on FH are definately retards.

aim owned

 

[noaim]

aim owned

He is just bitter because I wont let him borrow my warlock.

 

[noaim]

Whine about petspam is such bullshit - it doesn't affect ML raids, all it lets you do is farm itams (which we've mentioned above warlocks just don't need - heck you don't need MLs either, just go out at level 50 with some rogs on and pwn)

Lol spot mr. clue.

Ofc it has no effect, other than allowing ml-raids to be twice as fast or so with less people, but hey, everyones loves to spend time at ml-raids just because you do it, so we should actually be happy we dont have petspam.

 

[Raven]

yes because spending half an hour longer doing a ml raid makes up for sickening group utility in midgard

 

[Wabbit]

ok so WL are OP...the only thing thats bothers me is that they only need 1 sec LOS and all two (or three) spells can be cast...in other words, if a lock gets LOS on you, you are dead..no matter where you run. That sounds a bit like the old necro days when you didnt have to have LOS to kick anything in sight of the servant.

 

[noaim]

yes because spending half an hour longer doing a ml raid makes up for sickening group utility in midgard

The sickening utility of 2 lighttanks, 2 casters, speed5, 6 sec pbt, bg, 2 spreadhealers, 4 ressers etc? A hib whining about mid utility is funny, but so are you mr I am not shield specced.

Just because you and every grp you have ever been in have been total shit doesnt mean that hib cant make good grps, and certainly doesnt mean hibs lack utility in a fg, but its good that you keep telling yourself that, because admitting to yourself "maybe I am not good enough to play in a competetive fg and should stick to soloing with my hero" might be hard.

 

[Raven]

50 LW 50 parry, 29 shield such shield spec!!!11

 

[noaim]

50 LW 50 parry, 29 shield such shield spec!!!11

What you are today is of no interest, the day you said you are not shieldspecced, you 5 mins later said that you were 42 shield, which would be considered shieldspec.

 

[Raven]

well its all a matter of opinion, most people would consider shield spec to be 50 s 50 shield.

 

[Mirt]

Just because you and every grp you have ever been in have been total shit doesnt mean that hib cant make good grps, and certainly doesnt mean hibs lack utility in a fg, but its good that you keep telling yourself that, because admitting to yourself "maybe I am not good enough to play in a competetive fg and should stick to soloing with my hero" might be hard

I'd just like point out that the oh so shit grps he was in killed your GG more than once. Random groups for the win...

 

[Raven]

Just because you and every grp you have ever been in have been total shit doesnt mean that hib cant make good grps, and certainly doesnt mean hibs lack utility in a fg, but its good that you keep telling yourself that, because admitting to yourself "maybe I am not good enough to play in a competetive fg and should stick to soloing with my hero" might be hard.

i really dont care about fg's tbh, they are nice now and again to make some easy RPs, but not really much fun having to wait for afk'rs, correct classes etc etc, in the short time i find to play i would much rather go out and solo, and i would be happy to show any of your tanks the floor, its funny when gank group members say they are the best yet they still dont dare face me solo

 

[remi]

fucking hard to find some decent info bout warlocks spec/playstyle between all this whine.

less whine more info, tyvmuchosgraciasamigos

 

[fl3a]

i really dont care about fg's tbh, they are nice now and again to make some easy RPs, but not really much fun having to wait for afk'rs, correct classes etc etc, in the short time i find to play i would much rather go out and solo, and i would be happy to show any of your tanks the floor, its funny when gank group members say they are the best yet they still dont dare face me solo

you have no soloing RAs? you have the kind of set you would use in a gg?
i guess if all the people in ggs also had RA sets and toa sets made for soloing th fight would be kinda equal, and then you would prolly get owned

 

[Coldbeard]

fucking hard to find some decent info bout warlocks spec/playstyle between all this whine.

less whine more info, tyvmuchosgraciasamigos

WE FEEL REALLY SORRY FOR YOU AND YOUR PWNLOCK :<

 

[Raven]

not really, every time a tank runs out of a group to wtfpwn the soloer he dies, they are usually so RP horney they dont notice that thier grp have carried on without them, its actually quite funny. I rarely have to use RAs vs most fg tanks that think they are the good because they can spam thier assist macro

 

[Kanim]

not really, every time a tank runs out of a group to wtfpwn the soloer he dies, they are usually so RP horney they dont notice that thier grp have carried on without them, its actually quite funny. I rarely have to use RAs vs most fg tanks that think they are the good because they can spam thier assist macro

because your movies are the definition of skill

slam -> sidechain -> anytime -> win!

 

[Raven]

as oppose to moc buffshear? or /assist rear style or nuke nuke nuke nuke etc etc, i use the abilities given to my class, if i happen to have slam i will use it

 

[rure]

as oppose to moc buffshear? or /assist rear style or nuke nuke nuke nuke etc etc, i use the abilities given to my class, if i happen to have slam i will use it

It was I who did the moc buffshear movie :< Dont give kias credit for such skillz please.

 

[popa]

"new" spec with 2 bubs 50hex/20 WC/rest curse

if 50 20 u dont get any more points

 

[rure]

To be honest, I think the WL is Mythic's way of balancing the realms' casters. We didn't have a particularly OP cloth caster so they gave us one. Instead of fixing the larger issues they chuck in a quick fix for all us Middies that hate Sorcerers and base-stun

Hahahahahahaha

 

[Eregion]

To be honest, I think the WL is Mythic's way of balancing the realms' casters. We didn't have a particularly OP cloth caster so they gave us one. Instead of fixing the larger issues they chuck in a quick fix for all us Middies that hate Sorcerers and base-stun

mid casters is underperforming, i agree