What is needed to have you(r) (FG) back on the cluster?

What is needed for you to play on UK cluster again?


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Sharkith

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I should point out that in the long posts with GOA it was mentioned in their view that the server population had not yet fallen to a point where the game could not be played. Let me find the quote:

GOA said:
Having said all of this I do understand the difficulties of organising relic raids on low population servers. I'd contend that the English cluster is not yet at a low enough population to preclude large scale RvR...

To be honest it is worth asking them about this kind of thing.

There have been some nice threads on here recently where clearly there is a lot of action. At the end of the day the game is about large scale RvR but that is very tough to sustain. That is one of the reasons why I think it makes a shit load of sense to encourage all play styles. GOA were clear that they encouraged all styles solo, 8 vs 8 and so on. Everyone should be allowed to play how they like and encourage each other into different styles. Where we fell down was when we didn't encourage each other along.

I do agree with others though that a revamp of NF should be on the cards - that might help the situation. I still think they should allow alliances more control of a special zone - I think they need to push the game away from the 3 realm thing and allow it to develop even more. Its the inflexibility that is limiting it. Allow players more say imo and give them freedom.
 

Kagato

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Its fine as it is, last night was some of the best RvR i've had in ages to be honest, and its been a whole lot more pleasent with certain people/groups/guilds gone.

No change is needed to the cluster, and with some good improvements coming in next patches things are looking up at least.

The only real thing that would improve RvR significantly would be some design adjustments to the frontiers themselves and the nature of the terrain/travel.
 

SkarIronfist

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SkarIronfist said:
Nooooo 1st option was we play in English, the germans play in German.

At the moment we can only have one base language per server. Anyway I hope that clarifies my ealier post.
 

Manisch Depressiv

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It is possible, technically speaking it is very easy to have dynamic language changes unless you take languages with a different sorting layout.
 

Quantaco

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should have merge with US tbh, therefore there is no complain on AC night raid, underpopulared after 11:00 pm at night. Coz when the timw people in europe is going to bed and should be time for US or some part of Asia will get on..

FG fight dont really think is a problem

<This discussion is just related to this topic>
 

Straef

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Xmezx said:
Then fuck off Sharkith.

You and your prima donna friends killed the server in the first place with your attention seeking threads.

Personally I have gone to another server but I don't go prancing around saying the server is dead and trying to force people to join you. There is still life on this server and people still enjoy playing here. Selfish idiot.

Don't hit the door on your way out.
Join Date: 18th Dec 2006, leet :<

Anyway, even if you'd cluster English servers together with German ones, with players being able to pick a game language, most of the chatting would happen in players' native languages, like on Camlann, which is wank in my opinion.
 

Bigbrother

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hmmm

merging with avalon, well i guess they can have a english side and a german side ... BUT ,, we all need to rem that germans is used to speaking german,

i play hib avalon . and trust me , not easy to get the germans to speak english in bg , cg , as , group ...

even been on raids hosted by non germans , started fine in english then ,,, suddenly it was all german :)

so it will take a long time to get em to speak english ..
 

Ahtlehson

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Bigbrother said:
merging with avalon, well i guess they can have a english side and a german side ... BUT ,, we all need to rem that germans is used to speaking german,

i play hib avalon . and trust me , not easy to get the germans to speak english in bg , cg , as , group ...

even been on raids hosted by non germans , started fine in english then ,,, suddenly it was all german :)

so it will take a long time to get em to speak english ..

In my opinion this isnt bad at all if there would be merge between English cluster and German cluster.
As what people are looking from merging is more population and more RvR action. Or that's what I understand from their messages.
So if that's what people are looking for.. then there shouldnt be problems with language.. Just if there's action, it's fine :)
:drink:

Action.. yammie.. satisfaction.

EDIT: Sorry, went a little offtopic.. I voted no opinion :p
Aah.. Im clean from my sin..
 

pip

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close thid + advertise game and send some copies of to the game shops:) + merge tbh, giv giv giv germans+the french they gimps:p
 

Raven

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Samaroon|Terracotta said:
For me to have a pre-nerf Toa'd warlock, and everyone else to be unbuffed, running in rogs and solo!
you would still be a suicide bot ololol
 

Huntingtons

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SkarIronfist said:
At the moment we can only have one base language per server. Anyway I hope that clarifies my ealier post.

so they changed the other classic to english? didnt know :(
 

Muylaetrix

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cluster ALL the goa (toa) servers in one big cluster imho.

and let eachone use it`s own language for the client.

and let people speak whatever language suits them in their chosen chat channels.

i want to see 3000 + people in the fronteer with different bg`s each speaking their own language !!!!

... if only the hardware could keep up :(
 

Zoia

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Xmezx said:
Then fuck off Sharkith.

You and your prima donna friends killed the server in the first place with your attention seeking threads.

Personally I have gone to another server but I don't go prancing around saying the server is dead and trying to force people to join you. There is still life on this server and people still enjoy playing here. Selfish idiot.

Don't hit the door on your way out.
I don't like the aggressive tone in Xmezx's post and i don't like that he tells Sharkith to fuck off. Sharkith is a nice guy that has done a lot to try and work things out.
However, i do think Xmezx has a valid point. Reading all the "OMG u killed me in rvr ffsss" threads are bad enough, but reading all the threads about people telling us how shit and how dead this cluster is, is 10 times worse.
Every time i read one of these threads, it makes me even more sad than i already am.

If you have it better on Avalon, then that's fucking awesome!
If you leave this cluster, then leave this forum! Those of us that choose to stay, don't want to read your useless posts!
 

Gondath

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I don't see clustering solving anything, and any clustering with US servers is never gonna happen - different companies, different games, different policies

For my part, a good start would be to get my own group back together with enough active players to field a set group every night, as well as at least 4-5 enemy groups out on a nightly basis too.
 

Kagato

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Clustering different language servers would simply be a nightmare to be honest. We don't need anymore clustering, heck its zergy enough already but at least you can actually understand what the zergs are saying now.
 

Palekick

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The server is dead as it is, I'm not intersted in helping out to fix the situation, am elsewhere.

tho i normaly prefered the pve spec over the years but even the markets dead in hib, just no point in playing there anymore so moved on to a new server in the US.
 

Dr_Evil

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Huntingtons said:
so they changed the other classic to english? didnt know :(
No, they're changing Glastonbury server language from English to German and clustering it with Salisbury (German server).
 

Tuthmes

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Gamah said:
Severance will never return, just getting the old band back together would not happen.

I honestly think Daoc's time, at least in Eng/Euro is over. People are mostly hanging on for a new game.

Do it Gamah! Reunite us again!
 

Quantaco

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Straef said:
Anyway, even if you'd cluster English servers together with German ones, with players being able to pick a game language, most of the chatting would happen in players' native languages

yes I do agree that coz at the start of a classic server I do remember all language is begins spam in the guild chat and it is hard to understand unless they can make those language to become translated too.
 

Dr_Evil

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I think the solution would be to change something about the general attitude in Albion towards what we have in Midgard, as of making more PUGs and daring to run out in Agramon. As it is now Midgard have overpopulated Agramon population (both GGs and PUGs), while both Albion and Hibernia are underpopulated in that area. The majority of mids are running around in full groups, and those who are lfg are quickly picked up by a pug.

Hibernia is pretty much underpopulated anyway, so not much to do about that, atleast they're probably trying their best. Albion however are the overpopulated realm, but the majority of albs atm are just hanging out in a big zerg at Beno getting farmed by mids PL groups instead of forming up their own groups or organizing anything. Is this what albs want to do? Don't they think it would be fun to form up a group and compete with the mid groups instead of trying to zerg us, running towards us like headless chickens (read: mobs) and just ending up in the farm treadmill?

Last night we had an endless supply of albs running into our treadmill, and Midgard must've made millions of rp's, but tbh I don't care about rp's I only play for fun. It's just a little bit more fun farming albs than going pve and farming mobs the same way, but it involves no variation, and without variation it quickly becomes dull. I miss having competative fights (wich means winnable at each sides aka fair), that's what's fun for me.

I wish there were more alb groups out there who had the courage to challege us. Would be nice if albs tried to make more groups, but ofc if the albs are having fun doing what they're doing now, then continue doing it my all means. Everyone should play for fun, no matter what fun means. What I'm saying is, if there's albs out there who wish they could get a group, and does nothing about it other than spamming a few channels as 'lfg' - then do something! Make a group of all those who are lfg, if you are lfg ask if anyone else are lfg and team up with them.

Actually I wrote so much in this post that I started going off-topic, so I broke it up and made a new thread here instead that I hope will help Albion in starting more PUGs.
 

Raven

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surely forming pugs and trying to compete would be against the sotg though?
 

Kinetix

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Honestly?

leave it as it is now. I have had lots of fun these last days and its just a shame i cant play as much as i wanted.
I found out new nice ppl to play with and i dont see as much QQ as before.
If the fg vs fg ppl are in Avalon and are liking it there... please do stay, i only want ppl to be happy.

As for the game being dead, only a brainless person would say that, hell we even had a albion prime time raid!!1!11 one one
Just because theres less fgs running dosent mean there´s less action
 

Castus

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How can Kagato on 1 hand say its too zergy now yet others claim the servers dead? whos lying?:p or does Kag class 10 people in his realm a zerg?:) For people like myself who dip in now and again to daoc but read FH to gauge if its worth loggin on its very confusing .
 

Gahn

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Castus said:
How can Kagato on 1 hand say its too zergy now yet others claim the servers dead? whos lying?:p or does Kag class 10 people in his realm a zerg?:) For people like myself who dip in now and again to daoc but read FH to gauge if its worth loggin on its very confusing .

Maybe he's hinting at Albs? Dunno just a thought -.-
 

Cromcruaich

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Castus said:
How can Kagato on 1 hand say its too zergy now yet others claim the servers dead? whos lying?:p or does Kag class 10 people in his realm a zerg?:) For people like myself who dip in now and again to daoc but read FH to gauge if its worth loggin on its very confusing .

If your an alb, and wanna take a keep, then camp it and farm whatever poor sods come to check it out, then you'll be like a pig in muck.
 

Muylaetrix

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it`s strange.

on one side there are certainly less people now, not a good thing.

on the other side, if there is action the action is good (imho) and i notice that people are a lot friendlier now. i haven`t been yelled at really. to me it seems that most of the people who enjoy yelling at people and throwing profanities for whatever reason are largely gone.

i have recently even found a few new players (they exist !!!) and one who after 5 years of playing us came to europe.

it is worrying, the number of players, but to say the server is dead is a joke.


but exams, an expansion out in the us and not here, all are reasons why there are fewer players now too.

we`ll have to wait till a week or 2 after lotm comes out to be able to judge the actual amount of players.

clustering the spanish and italian server with the current english cluster might be an idea too.
 

Cromcruaich

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Muylaetrix said:
i haven`t been yelled at really. to me it seems that most of the people who enjoy yelling at people and throwing profanities for whatever reason are largely gone.

Was this really the case over the last 6 months, we're you regularly abused and yelled at? If so by whom? Its just not something I recognise as a frequent occurance, but maybe things were bad on the alb side.
 

Gibbo

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If all the people on here yelling that the server is dead actually came back and played on the server then there would be plenty of people playing. :p
 

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