What I have seen

Smid

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and experienced from DOAC during the past 2,5 years.

All grind, grind, grind (grind = very boring) then I had some really fun and worthwhile times in RVR.

TOA

All grind, grind, grind (grind = see above) then semifun in RVR.

NF
Well.....I for once didn't enjoy what NF brought to this game.

The feeeling I have now after 2,5 years of playng DAOC is that the ppl creating/hosting this game have no respect, nor consideration for there players.

So what opened my eyes after 2,5 years and made me realize this ??
World of Warcraft, they've done everything right.
 

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Smid said:
So what opened my eyes after 2,5 years and made me realize this ??
World of Warcraft, they've done everything right.
Until you reach level 60 and realise there really isnt any content!
 

Hrogar

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Each to his own I'd say. Some like the way of DAoC, some like WoW and so on. In he long run I think WoW suits the majority better though. I mean DAoC has gone through some major changes during the years, and WoW will be doing the same but with a much bigger backup from the creators. Ah well, time will tell. My subs run out in a few weeks so then it's WoW until summer at least :)

Kind regards
 

Smid

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Helme said:
Until you reach level 60 and realise there really isnt any content!

Well depends on what you want after 60. I'm playing on PvP server so I don't lack any content, I'm playing WoW the way I used to play Daoc (and enjoyed it) player versus player.
 

Smid

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Just wanted to add 1 more thing, when playing WoW you can feel that the game is created for the player, for having fun. They have really made an effort to make the game enjoyable and fun to play and easy for new players to genre to enter it.

While Mythic have taken another route and made it impossible for new players to enter the game.
 

poky

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wow is more of a qualityproduct for sure, though Im very uncertain how pvp will be seeing the CC and interupts are extremely limited.
 

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not another daoc sucks wow rocks thread.

rather than starting a new thread, why not just bump another one?
 

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Another thing btw, you speak of grind grind grind. What you do in WoW then run around as level one and live happily ever after? still a grind..
 

Smid

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Marc said:
not another daoc sucks wow rocks thread.

rather than starting a new thread, why not just bump another one?

not another "why not just bump another one" post.....
 

Smid

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Helme said:
Another thing btw, you speak of grind grind grind. What you do in WoW then run around as level one and live happily ever after? still a grind..

Mythic are a clueless company, they've made every mistake there is. They never had a clue what there playerbase wanted from the game so they just kept on, further and further down the gutter messing everything up on the way down.
 

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Mythic are a clueless company, they've made every mistake there is. They never had a clue what there playerbase wanted from the game and decided they knew better.........

Hmm.. k

You do know that they can't give players everything and that theres limits? WoW will soon have its share of big whine and crappy expansions aswell trust me on that. No game is perfect.
 

Smid

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Helme said:
Hmm.. k

You do know that they can't give players everything and that theres limits? WoW will soon have its share of big whine and crappy expansions aswell trust me on that. No game is perfect.


Sure there will be whine, difference is that Warcraft is a concept that's been built on for, what is it, 10 years ?

They got a concept and I'm positive that they will stick to it and keep the game stringent.
 

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Smid said:
Mythic are a clueless company, they've made every mistake there is.

Obviously they are so clueless they kept you paying subs for 2.5 years, my guess is they made money out of you, hardly clueless imo, after all a clueless company wouldnt make money right? o_O
 

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Gungo said:
Obviously they are so clueless they kept you paying subs for 2.5 years, my guess is they made money out of you, hardly clueless imo, after all a clueless company wouldnt make money right? o_O

They had the best MMORPG ever made, they had a "world" that you could relate to and every ingridient to keep me hooked to the game and really enjoying my playtime. Syddenly they changed all that and added TOA and by doing that they changed the gameworld and made it impossible for new players to enter the game. By doing that they killed the game themselves.
 

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if u wanna play wow go right ahead.. none stops you, enjoy!.. who are u trying to convince with this thread, daoc comunity or urself? 8<
 

Smid

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lofff said:
if u wanna play wow go right ahead.. none stops you, enjoy!.. who are u trying to convince with this thread, daoc comunity or urself? 8<

Not trying to convince anyone, I'm just pissed that Mythic screwed up the game I palyed for so long. I'm pissed cause they felt they knew better then the players what the players wanted.

They got an arrogant attitude towards there customers and that makes me pissed.
 

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While Mythic have taken another route and made it impossible for new players to enter the game.

I think this is the real problem, games will come and go and players will come and go. But with DAOC I think it is really bad for new players. And I don't mean about levelling. Levelling should be fun, something to explore. Now it's just a boring time sink you have to go through to get to 50 when you can start playing the game, except now with NF that seems to be broke too, unless you went through the TOA boredom too.

And if you are a solo casual player?

Forget it.
 

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Smid said:
Mythic are a clueless company, they've made every mistake there is. They never had a clue what there playerbase wanted from the game so they just kept on, further and further down the gutter messing everything up on the way down.

Strangely there are still some of us enjoying DAOC. Glad you're enjoying WoW. I can assure you we've now got the message - you can safely move along to their boards knowing we know you like it more than DAOC :)
 

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I think Smid works for Blizzard and his tasks here are to slag off daoc and get more to goto WoW xD...I Mean what kinda normall person comes out with crap like "You can feel that WoW is crafted for the player" tish-tosh. hf in WoW..I don't really give a shit that you have gone to play it though :<
 

Smid

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Bracken said:
Strangely there are still some of us enjoying DAOC. Glad you're enjoying WoW. I can assure you we've now got the message - you can safely move along to their boards knowing we know you like it more than DAOC :)

Then enjoy it, it still makes me mad that Mythic screwed up the game I invested so much time in and really enjoyed (well parts of it)

Face it, with TOA they closed the game for new players and by doing that they in effect killed the game.
 

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such a pile of shit ~~

with catacombs they make the pve 'grind' easier for new players, and with NF they made rvr much easier for casual and new players.. yes getting tru toa is a pain in the ass, but for lots a ppl its also somewhat funny when u explore it for the first time..

anyway, who cares xD
 

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WoW = New
Daoc = Old

Dont compare New to Old.
Try comparing WoW after 3 years to current Daoc....noone can say who will win that comparisson...
 

Smid

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lofff said:
such a pile of shit ~~

That's what I said to beginn with, Daoc is for sure a pile of shit as it is today
 

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Smid said:
Face it, with TOA they closed the game for new players and by doing that they in effect killed the game.

Only for complete nubs.

WoW is ok if you like cartoons. It lacks depth and polish. Anyway this is a DAoC board so off you trot.
 

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Smid said:
lofff said:
such a pile of shit ~~

That's what I said to beginn with, Daoc is for sure a pile of shit as it is today
For someone who splayed for 2.5 years, without being forced, you do talk a load of crap.

I have guild mates who joined after TOA came out and are loving it. I also have new members who have joined since NF, no powerleveling, and they love daoc. I have played for 3 years and I still love this game. WoW aint a bad MMORPG, but its not got anything liek the PvP that DAoC has nor ever will. The closest to DAoC is Camlann, and thats as boring as hell, log in, die, log out. While its crafting and questing systems are superior, the game as a whole is as much or more grind than dark age.

As lofff said, NF and Catacombes put the play back to casual gamers, not ebayed or PLed idiots, so it will bring in new blood and whittle out the old has beens.

So if WoW is so great, why are you reading these forums and moaning like a b***h about DAoC, and indeed, are your subs still running in this game you hate so much.

Like the others say, off to the wow section with you, and leave us who still enjoy daoc alone.
 

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Been playing wow beta for a few weeks and i stopped playing it cause i didnt want to get bored with it before release and that kinda tels me something about WoW.
 

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Smid said:
They had the best MMORPG ever made, they had a "world" that you could relate to and every ingridient to keep me hooked to the game and really enjoying my playtime. Syddenly they changed all that and added TOA and by doing that they changed the gameworld and made it impossible for new players to enter the game. By doing that they killed the game themselves.

impossible to enter the game after TOA?? Hmm I started playing five or 6 months after TOA and Ive found it fine. Ive got ML8 and am almost fully artied out and am approaching a decent realm rank... I have only played in small friendly guilds and never been gifted vast sums of money or bought things for hard currency. As a matter of fact I also work long hours so havent been able to play hardcore. What exactly do you think is impossible?? There are many new starters joining at the moment and with the new levelling system and xp bonuses they are doing things fast and enjoying themselves..
Perhaps you have become a little jaded and cant see whats still good about this game?
 

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any game is basicly good game to some1.

but usually u can leave game and come back after a while without big probs, and i repeat without big.

as stated few times in this thread, daoc is kinda impossible for a new player to join in. and thats imo the biggest prob in the game.

daoc is 1 of the best there is, and it was made by the players who play the game, community is main reason why u all peeps still play daoc, right? its fun to play with guys u been knowing so many years, etc etc, u get the point.

but now if there aint gonna come new blood to the game, new players not just BB's to allrdy existing players, daoc will slowly fade away like so many games been done so far, prob is those other games mostly sucked at the start which daoc didnt.

if there would be a possibility me to play daoc without all that arti and ML farming and after that doing all SC and stuff again i would play the game for sure. but as there aint i aint playing.

and yes u could say buy stuff etc etc, but with 0 cash its bloody hard just buy some stuff what costs u 20P.

and if mythic would be going to right direction with new players and so on, these threads wouldnt be here, right?

and when u place + and - things in paper either side u will c that on - side is so much more stuff than in + side. (and this forums additude mostly goes to - side but as said many times also, reading these threads aint a must thing to do ).

and when new games come to market u will do the same thing + and - side, and as new game usually + side more at the start.

now when u have played some other games and didnt like them , tried another and so on u will be looking bac to good games what u played and daoc comes your mind, but atm daoc is in state that its impossible to get back there and play without all those - things on list and STILL they weight more than + things.

but luckily we have industry whats making new games all the time so we have change to jump and test games and surely there will be GOOD games coming what u play again more than 2 years. when is it , no1 knows. some peeps have found their game after daoc, some dont, i ahevnt yet, but hoping to find 1 so i can enjoy again long times playing game with good guys.

Fin out

P.S. smile and laugh more it helps
 

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Another one who´s unable to cope with new features and things. And another boring "omgwtf Blizzard is SO tehPWN!!!"
 

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