What do you believe?

[tris-]

Belive in science, god is a dj and 'the secret'

If you looking for a sound religious view, why not try timecube?

Time Cube

wtf is this shit, man?

every other word is evil, stupid or dumb.

 

[Dahakon]

As far as I'm aware, it was actually Edgar Allen Poe, the American author, who came up with the original idea of a big bang. It was THEN taken by scientists.

I did say the term Big Bang, not the idea; the proper model was worked out by Edwin Hubble, but I can't remember who first came up with the idea of it.

 

[dub]

its all theory baby. there's no way to prove god does not exsist, and there's no way to prove that the universe was blown to smithereens before it was created. both are imo beliefs but i like the "science" theory better

both are not beliefs , one is a theory wich may or may not be proven wrong , the other is ramblings of madmen , baby

 

[Amphrax]

I believe you shouldn't eat yellow snow

I also believe ALL women should be naked between the age of 16 to 45

 

[echome]

I belive that some things can not be proven. And shouldnt...

What would we be without our belives and ideas about life, the world and everything that surrounds us?
(Don't you just love, when people answer a question with a question? :->)

 

[DocWolfe]

Well i was in college today having a chat with a tutor and he's a born again christian, i asked why did you become born again? Then he started waffling aload of crap, which was actually interesting.

Then we got onto evolution process, i asked what do you believe? Then he said he believes theirs a creator, instead of scientific facts. Personally i'm more of a scientific fact person, i believe in the evolution process. (not that i know much about it) then he came up with a good comment.

''How can such a miracle like a flower, or a human being be made from an explosion? What good becomes from an explosion? Destruction and mess''

I also said bacteria! Because i know fuck all it was the best answer i come up with?

So what do we all believe in, are their actual stone strong facts about the explosion and so on and shit like that? Or is it still a mystery? Fux knows, but its interesting stuff.

With regards to his whole explosion comment, he is totally incorrect. For example, even after the wanton destruction of a volcano killing people etc. the soot and silt that is produce actually makes very fertile ground, it allows things to 'start afresh'. You could even stoop to his own level and talk about the story of Noah's ark... God had basically become unhappy with how things had turned out... everyone was butt fucking each other, so he decided to start afresh by destroying and killing a shit load of people.

 

[crispy]

Evolution ?

FACT :

There are millions upon millions of fossils, detailing the earths history going back 100s millions of years, as we all know. 300 million years ago, the Earth ONLY had non flowering plants on it, the flower did not exist. countless fossil records exist from every corner of the globe showing these fern like fossils.

Ok we all agree we have fossilised plants from this time, we have zee technology to determine this rather accurately. 100 million years ago, flowering plants appeared on the planet., and indeed we have multiple and clear examples of said flowering plants in our fossil records.

To this day, not a single fossil exists, or has ever been found that shows the gradual transition from non flowering to flowering plant. This is not evolution, this is genetic manipulation, gene splicing just like we can do today...

Think about it, one day 150 million years ago, a plant grew a flower, yipee ! the worlds first flowering plant ! Doh, as this is the worlds first, their is no other flowering plant for the pollen to pollinate. Darwins famous quote " survival of the fittest" does not fit here. A plant - using a huge amount of its resources to make this usless flower - is going to die off, S.O.T.F - if you believe Darwin..

What we have here is Panspermia, or just your average meddeling intergalactic race on a quick stop over having a mess about.

I hope for you this is a bad joke

Lets start with another fact. Plants didnt go from no flowers to flowers in one go.

 

[echome]

The real question is, can anything come from nothing?

 

[Litmus]

IMO religion is just medevil propaganda used to keep people scared shitless hundress of years back. And the iv'e never really given the "big-bang" thing much of a thought as iv'e never really been that intresed in space either, just to many ways the world could of been made i guess, and i doubt anyone will ever find the true reason for a long time yet.

 

[pikeh]

religion is the opiate of the people.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

God is so mighty he can't create a fence he wouldn't be able to jump over.

You can't prove that I am not inside your heads, leaving my dumps there either, so don't question it.

What a waste of discussion.

There are strong theories that say that humans "invented" religion and religion's gods just to survive.

The fucking rat that was once saved by a human from croaking will swim longer in a barrel of water than the one that didn't get the saving hand. As it has hope and believe in higher help/justice.

It's so achnored in a human brain to believe in some god, through the evolution and how we're being raised by religious parents/society that people don't want to see some straight facts that speak against it. I hope that something really big like the sun maybe will crash into earth tomorrow so we can all find out by ourselfs what the fuzz is about.

One thing is sure, if we would nuke out the majority of the so called religious people then earth would be a better place. No gay priests molesting children, no popes playing king of the world, no Islamists behaving like we're still in the medieval time.

Today, religion is just a different name for capitalism and God is a brand.

 

[echome]

religion is the opiate of the people.

Hehe funny, I said the same thing last time we had this "discussion".

 

[Zede]

are you actually being serious?

so the culmination of all the planets "whatever flowers evolved from" , only led to the evolution of one?

hate these fucking religion discussions, but that statement was lol worthy.

did you bother reading the rest of the post ?

go look it up please, the fossil records do indeed support this lol worthy FACT.

absolutely NO transitional fossils exist of any flowering plants what so ever - darwin states that with survival of the fittest and genetic mutation over a long period of time a species becomes dominent. Flowering plants just "happened" No fossil records, then Bam - whole plant is covered with em !

 

[Zede]

I hope for you this is a bad joke

Lets start with another fact. Plants didnt go from no flowers to flowers in one go.

thats just the point, they did, the factual fossil records that exist through out the globe indictate just that. id love you to show me other wise.

 

[Ctuchik]

So what do we all believe in, are their actual stone strong facts about the explosion and so on and shit like that? Or is it still a mystery? Fux knows, but its interesting stuff.

ui believe in anything i can touch, taste, see, hear or smell.
and no, just because some deluded idiot tells me that god exist doesent mean the hearing part come to effect

now if god HIMSELF were to come and hit me with his allmightyness, then it would be a different matter. but untill he/she(?) does he's nonexistant and will be happily ignore.

 

[Ctuchik]

wtf is this shit, man?

every other word is evil, stupid or dumb.

read the bible and is not THAT much that differs when it comes to retardedness

 

[old.Tohtori]

My theory, that i thought...or should i say...got the holy knowledge of!!...was that life on earth, is simply a prison sentence.

You, me, those guys around, are all higher beings, much higher, basically what we would call gods(but not, just would 'cause they are at a higher level). But even those beings, or us, get out of line, and break some rules. 'cause that's what things do. That when they get stripped of their powers, memory and so forth, locked in this body and sent on earth to do "hard time".

So when you die, your time is done.

Babies die, short sentence.
OAPs, dirty evil motherf*ckers in real life.
Etc.

So when you return to your old body, and remember this time, you won't be rushing to new crimes as you remember how hard it was without your powers/intelligence/whatnot.

Even the "paranormal" powers that some people have(believe it or not), could be explained with this, asit's simply a glitch in the system and some of their "real body" powers seep through. Also many MANY more things are explained with this.

 

[Bahumat]

THERE WAS NEVER AND EXPLOSION!!!!!

There, now that I have got that out of my system, let me continue, the term "Big Bang" for the theory was made up by scientists at the start of the 20th century who didn't believe in it, and it was a term meant to make fun other the theory. It was never called that by Hubble himself (the guy who came up with the theory). The whole idea of it being an explosion is just a strawman, made up by people who don't like the theory. There is loads of evidence for the "Big Bang", just look at background radiation and the way the universe is expanding (although thats effected by other things like Dark Matter, and so called "Anti-Gravity", but the main reason is still the "Big Bang"). An interesting side note to this is the so called Oscillating Universe Theory, which says the the universe has forever been following a pattern of expansion, contraction, a "big Crunch" followed by another "Big Bang", but this is just speculation, to be fair.

As for evolution, watch videos like this and this, and if you are still in doubt, then there is no help for you =P

However, there is nothing in Evolution, or the "Big Bang", that goes against a belief in god, I mean personally I am a Neo-Pagan, but that doesn't mean I close my eyes to all the evidence that science has.

On that first url, at about 4:20 he smacks the wine glass on his teeth, and he speaks with god awful pauses every few seconds.

 

[Bahumat]

Why at 5:10 is he taking a dump?

 

[Bahumat]

My theory, that i thought...or should i say...got the holy knowledge of!!...was that life on earth, is simply a prison sentence.

You, me, those guys around, are all higher beings, much higher, basically what we would call gods(but not, just would 'cause they are at a higher level). But even those beings, or us, get out of line, and break some rules. 'cause that's what things do. That when they get stripped of their powers, memory and so forth, locked in this body and sent on earth to do "hard time".

So when you die, your time is done.

Babies die, short sentence.
OAPs, dirty evil motherf*ckers in real life.
Etc.

So when you return to your old body, and remember this time, you won't be rushing to new crimes as you remember how hard it was without your powers/intelligence/whatnot.

Even the "paranormal" powers that some people have(believe it or not), could be explained with this, asit's simply a glitch in the system and some of their "real body" powers seep through. Also many MANY more things are explained with this.

They should make a film about it. It's a strange idea but who's to say its not plausable.

 

[crispy]

thats just the point, they did, the factual fossil records that exist through out the globe indictate just that. id love you to show me other wise.

Go post that shit over at www.iidb.org and see it torn apart by evolutionary scientists, who actually KNOW their stuff. I am by no means claiming that i know how, just that i am pretty sure there is an explanation, and these guys will give you one if you ask them.

 

[Lamp]

The real question is, can anything come from nothing?

Yes.

What we term as "our" universe is everything that was propelled into the Primal Darkness, (or the Void) as a result of the Big Bang. In fact, since the Primal Darkness is infinite, there are an uncountably huge number of so-called Big Bangs, each of which has exploded into its own region of Primal Darkness, each of which can be termed a universe. There are trillions of universe nurseries. These warp space-time creating wormholes which propogate more universes throughout the eternal nothingness of the Primal Darkness

 

[pikeh]

Hehe funny, I said the same thing last time we had this "discussion".

=p
cant remember who said it famously, but its so true!

 

[Jeremiah]

Wasnt it Karl Marx?

 

[Laddey]

Interesting stuff!

I've got news for the lot of you noobs! I'm the creator of earth!

 

[Himse]

Creator of teh earthz,

yet bad at cs:source


lolol Laddey

 

[Laddey]

Creator of teh earthz,

yet bad at cs:source


lolol Laddey

lmao

Man Made shit sucks, i'd beat you at swinging on trees and nature shit!

 

[Marc]

So what was around before the big bang, ie, where did the matter etc come from that created the big bang, and before that, the matter that created the matter that created the big bang and before that, the matter that........

The scientists answer?

It has always been there

In other words, "we dont know, but we will never entertain the thought of a supreme being".

And before anyone starts, im not forcing my beliefs on anyone, or trying to change their way of thinking. I believe in God, but I am also open minded.

 

[Himse]

lmao

Man Made shit sucks, i'd beat you at swinging on trees and nature shit!

Stronglies.

I can poop in the woods better than you.

 

[Laddey]

Did the chicken come before the egg?