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[Belomar]

Arauddry and Kklas tried to pull this stunt on us last night as well, but that time the idiots were too slow (probably due to a premature orgasm at the thought of the RPs to be cashed in). Yes, the little respect I ever had for Kklas has long since diminished due to idiot abuse like this; it does indeed prove that some people will do anything for free RPs.

 

[Arethir]

Miff, here's an idea, try /macro disembark /disembark.. put it on qb.. push it.. a miracle happens.. you get off the boat on the sec... also.. how long time do you use to type /g FZ'd? It doesn't take to long really, and ppl know what it is about if you do. Myself i don't have a char with FZ, and prolly never will, but fgs.. this is like ppl using volley at bb's at pk's etc... it's rude and free rps blah blah.. but still.. they worked for the skill.. why shouldn't they be allowed to use it?

 

[Nausilus^^]

it wont be solved through rightnow because its fixed in 1.72 & they wont be banned, the only way it will be solved is if people flood rightnow with pleads to have it hotfixed, or put in with 1.71 (which probably wont happen anyway)

Kinda contradictory, but atleast you get the point about RN flooding. And since it wont be fixed until 1.72 I really don't see any point in crying about it.. deal with it and wait until it's fixed. Amazing what people can cry about these days.

 

[Puppet]

Arauddry and Kklas tried to pull this stunt on us last night as well, but that time the idiots were too slow (probably due to a premature orgasm at the thought of the RPs to be cashed in). Yes, the little respect I ever had for Kklas has long since diminished due to idiot abuse like this; it does indeed prove that some people will do anything for free RPs.

Both Arauddry and Kklas are two good players who can probably stand their man in a 1 vs 1; especially Kklas; I never beaten him in a 1 vs1 (had once twice; lost both; nice fights tho).

I dont mind they duo; nothing I can do about it to make em stop; and if they enjoy playing together.. why not.

I do feel its sad they need to resort to 'lamer tactics' tho. Two of the strongest stealthers (in terms of RP's and thus available RA's) with a bucketload of experience; gadgets, arti's and ML's as well as CC (mezz/stun etc) should be able to take on atleast twice their numbers due to the element of surprise and the experience they got in playing together.

However; I never see those things happen. I dont see Kklas and Arauddry killing 4+ Hibs. I see em resort to Fz'ing people off a boat who ofcourse cannot properly defend themselves due to FZ, stun, mezz and if things go wrong SoS/Vanish whatever.

But hey; you can point em in the direction in how to get some respect; but instead we now get Arauddry coming in with 'lol grow up fucktat my english skillszor lol go play game lolzor QQ' instead.

Showing Im wrong and he can indeed do the things together with Kklas a RR11 infiltrator and a RR11 minstrel would be nice; but I guess they fail too many times on that and get killed and therefore go back to the 'lame stuff'.

Ah well; inc. Arauddry prolly tells me Im wrong :kissit:

 

[Belomar]

I dont mind they duo; nothing I can do about it to make em stop; and if they enjoy playing together.. why not.

I do feel its sad they need to resort to 'lamer tactics' tho.

Yes, that's exactly my point. I won't comment on Arauddry, since I don't have a solo/stealth char and thus can't say much about his in-game behavior (of course, I've had him pop on FG fights), but I have seen Kklas in FG fights (and I've even taken rides with his FZs) and concluded that he is a good group minstrel. However, this kind of pathetic abuse, coupled with Arauddry's illiterate gloating here on FH, clearly shows the true nature of these two.

 

[Nausilus^^]

It might be lamer tactics in your eyes, but in their eyes perhaps it's just a way of using FZ to confuse and create disturbance in the enemy ranks. Some people also say that sojo's taking SoM with portal ML ability is abuse, but I'm pretty sure the people who use it think it's alright.. and I know that mythic don't consider Sojo SoM way abuse, because it's been described as game design.

The bottom line here is, that people have different opinions - I'm sure Kklas wouldn't have FZ'ed if it collided with his common sense unless it's broken so he doesn't have any (I don't know Kklas at all, never fought him, never seen him). But as long as mythic don't do anything about it, it's not abuse. Until 1.72 calling FZ on a boat abuse, will be a misinterpretation from the whiner's PoV. Yes I call it whine, because those who call it abuse ARE whining. They're prolly whining because they can't do it themselves, because they have been FZ'ed off a boat themselves or because their common sense forbids them to do it (we all have different understandings of common sense). But until mythic fixes it, it's not abuse, there's nothing you can do about it apart from fight back when it happens and when you whine about it on FH and I read about it, I'll laugh at you because you don't have discipline enough to take it as a man and forget about it. Get on with your business instead of hovering around 1 subject that you have no power of anyway.

Just rambling off here, but I sincerely hope that you get my point. If not I'd be happy to elaborate if I can.

 

[Puppet]

It might be lamer tactics in your eyes, but in their eyes perhaps it's just a way of using FZ to confuse and create disturbance in the enemy ranks. Some people also say that sojo's taking SoM with portal ML ability is abuse, but I'm pretty sure the people who use it think it's alright.. and I know that mythic don't consider Sojo SoM way abuse, because it's been described as game design.

The bottom line here is, that people have different opinions - I'm sure Kklas wouldn't have FZ'ed if it collided with his common sense unless it's broken so he doesn't have any (I don't know Kklas at all, never fought him, never seen him). But as long as mythic don't do anything about it, it's not abuse. Until 1.72 calling FZ on a boat abuse, will be a misinterpretation from the whiner's PoV. Yes I call it whine, because those who call it abuse ARE whining. They're prolly whining because they can't do it themselves, because they have been FZ'ed off a boat themselves or because their common sense forbids them to do it (we all have different understandings of common sense). But until mythic fixes it, it's not abuse, there's nothing you can do about it apart from fight back when it happens and when you whine about it on FH and I read about it, I'll laugh at you because you don't have discipline enough to take it as a man and forget about it. Get on with your business instead of hovering around 1 subject that you have no power of anyway.

Just rambling off here, but I sincerely hope that you get my point. If not I'd be happy to elaborate if I can.

No need to elaborate. I, as a ML10 Sojourner Ranger can do it too.. I choose not to; since I consider it lame.


I sure as hell wont group up and duo the poor one gettign FZ'ed from the boat.. Even more lame from my PoV.

It didnt happen to me; Im not the 'sore looser' who 'cannot take it as a man'. From my point of view someone with Vanish and SoS, grouping up THEN using Vanish/SoS if u FZ the 'wrong one' (RR8+ hammer-berserker could wrack havoc on mr. infil quite easy for example) is the kind of people I consider 'not taking it as a man'.

Now dont come with the 'this is war if Hitler had deployed enemy forces behind bla bla bullshit'. I've had enough of that bullshit

 

[Nausilus^^]

No need to elaborate. I, as a ML10 Sojourner Ranger can do it too.. I choose not to; since I consider it lame.


I sure as hell wont group up and duo the poor one gettign FZ'ed from the boat.. Even more lame from my PoV.

It didnt happen to me; Im not the 'sore looser' who 'cannot take it as a man'. From my point of view someone with Vanish and SoS, grouping up THEN using Vanish/SoS if u FZ the 'wrong one' (RR8+ hammer-berserker could wrack havoc on mr. infil quite easy for example) is the kind of people I consider 'not taking it as a man'.

Now dont come with the 'this is war if Hitler had deployed enemy forces behind bla bla bullshit'. I've had enough of that bullshit

So you consider Sojo SoM lame, so do I. You consider FZ from boat lame too, because you think it's not very masculine (prolly not the right word, but I'm sure you get my point) of the 2 people who do it (well basically it's only the sojo who does the FZ'ing). But why is it so lame of them to use FZ to create disturbance and pick on an easy target? It's kinda the same as killing an afk stealther sitting in a tower.. would you leave him alone because he can't do anything about it?

Hey, I'd probably be annoyed if it happened to me too, but I'm sure as hell not gonna piss my pants and whine on FH about it. I chose to sit in that boat, I chose to use the highly insecure way of travelling in NF, thus I don't expect any mercy from anyone attacking me while being in such a vulnerable position. I don't come crying to anyone when people attack me while I operate a ram either.

 

[Wazkyr]

It might be lamer tactics in your eyes, but in their eyes perhaps it's just a way of using FZ to confuse and create disturbance in the enemy ranks. Some people also say that sojo's taking SoM with portal ML ability is abuse, but I'm pretty sure the people who use it think it's alright.. and I know that mythic don't consider Sojo SoM way abuse, because it's been described as game design.

The bottom line here is, that people have different opinions - I'm sure Kklas wouldn't have FZ'ed if it collided with his common sense unless it's broken so he doesn't have any (I don't know Kklas at all, never fought him, never seen him). But as long as mythic don't do anything about it, it's not abuse. Until 1.72 calling FZ on a boat abuse, will be a misinterpretation from the whiner's PoV. Yes I call it whine, because those who call it abuse ARE whining. They're prolly whining because they can't do it themselves, because they have been FZ'ed off a boat themselves or because their common sense forbids them to do it (we all have different understandings of common sense). But until mythic fixes it, it's not abuse, there's nothing you can do about it apart from fight back when it happens and when you whine about it on FH and I read about it, I'll laugh at you because you don't have discipline enough to take it as a man and forget about it. Get on with your business instead of hovering around 1 subject that you have no power of anyway.

Just rambling off here, but I sincerely hope that you get my point. If not I'd be happy to elaborate if I can.

So what ur saying is that its ok to ABUSE (imo) bugs until they are fixed??

 

[Araudry]

stop crying we did it maybe 2-3 times no more
and first time u do it its rly funny to get one off fg and none jump hah ^^

 

[Araudry]

Both Arauddry and Kklas are two good players who can probably stand their man in a 1 vs 1; especially Kklas; I never beaten him in a 1 vs1 (had once twice; lost both; nice fights tho).

I dont mind they duo; nothing I can do about it to make em stop; and if they enjoy playing together.. why not.

I do feel its sad they need to resort to 'lamer tactics' tho. Two of the strongest stealthers (in terms of RP's and thus available RA's) with a bucketload of experience; gadgets, arti's and ML's as well as CC (mezz/stun etc) should be able to take on atleast twice their numbers due to the element of surprise and the experience they got in playing together.

However; I never see those things happen. I dont see Kklas and Arauddry killing 4+ Hibs. I see em resort to Fz'ing people off a boat who ofcourse cannot properly defend themselves due to FZ, stun, mezz and if things go wrong SoS/Vanish whatever.

But hey; you can point em in the direction in how to get some respect; but instead we now get Arauddry coming in with 'lol grow up fucktat my english skillszor lol go play game lolzor QQ' instead.

Showing Im wrong and he can indeed do the things together with Kklas a RR11 infiltrator and a RR11 minstrel would be nice; but I guess they fail too many times on that and get killed and therefore go back to the 'lame stuff'.

Ah well; inc. Arauddry prolly tells me Im wrong :kissit:

yes u are wrong now stfu.

 

[Belomar]

It might be lamer tactics in your eyes, but in their eyes perhaps it's just a way of using FZ to confuse and create disturbance in the enemy ranks.

Enough with the roleplaying, Arauddry himself is gloating about it in this thread. They are not doing it to "create disturbance in the enemy ranks", they are doing it because it is free RPs and it seems to give them a kick doing it (judging by the replies here, at least).

 

[Araudry]

Arauddry and Kklas tried to pull this stunt on us last night as well, but that time the idiots were too slow (probably due to a premature orgasm at the thought of the RPs to be cashed in). Yes, the little respect I ever had for Kklas has long since diminished due to idiot abuse like this; it does indeed prove that some people will do anything for free RPs.

atleast u are the idiot whining here too :>

Yes, that's exactly my point. I won't comment on Arauddry, since I don't have a solo/stealth char and thus can't say much about his in-game behavior (of course, I've had him pop on FG fights), but I have seen Kklas in FG fights (and I've even taken rides with his FZs) and concluded that he is a good group minstrel. However, this kind of pathetic abuse, coupled with Arauddry's illiterate gloating here on FH, clearly shows the true nature of these two.

maybe i m illiterate as u say but i m not a retarded prick that wast my time posting bs on forum all days long get real for once twat

 

[Araudry]

Enough with the roleplaying, Arauddry himself is gloating about it in this thread. They are not doing it to "create disturbance in the enemy ranks", they are doing it because it is free RPs and it seems to give them a kick doing it (judging by the replies here, at least).

yes QQ more a pleasure to see moron like u whining here

 

[Puppet]

but instead we now get Arauddry coming in with 'lol grow up fucktat my english skillszor lol go play game lolzor QQ' instead.

Bit slow but none the less so predictive

 

[Nausilus^^]

So what ur saying is that its ok to ABUSE (imo) bugs until they are fixed??

I'm saying that if people don't improvise RvR will stay the same forever, and until mythic fixes it, this is only abuse to some people.. until mythic actually says: "FZ'ing people off their boats is considered bug-abuse and by doing so you will recieve first a warning, and after continuous abuse your account will be banned" there's nothing wrong in FZ'ing people off their boats.

And if you can't take it go pve instead.

Enough with the roleplaying, Arauddry himself is gloating about it in this thread. They are not doing it to "create disturbance in the enemy ranks", they are doing it because it is free RPs and it seems to give them a kick doing it (judging by the replies here, at least).

Roleplaying?

So fucking what if they're doing it to get free rps.. if you get a chance of getting free rps will you pass the oportunity? No, I didn't think so. I wouldn't gloat on FH about it if it was me who did it, but I'd certainly have a hearty laugh about all the incredibley bitter people posting in here

C'mon, we only have the fun we create ourselves.. no reason to become hostile and bitter over it - let it go, RN it if you find it abusive and get on with your life

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

Wtf strong QQ in this thread.
Im on Puppets side.

 

[Puppet]

I'm saying that if people don't improvise RvR will stay the same forever, and until mythic fixes it, this is only abuse to some people.. until mythic actually says: "FZ'ing people off their boats is considered bug-abuse and by doing so you will recieve first a warning, and after continuous abuse your account will be banned" there's nothing wrong in FZ'ing people off their boats.

And if you can't take it go pve instead.

PvE is always the same; so I dont see how u can possibly suggest going PvE

And, we just gotten New Frontiers for 10 days and u talk about 'RvR will stay the same forever' wtf?

The point you, and Arauddry, seem to miss is I dont say its illegal, bugabuse or whatever. I say its LAME. Thats not from a rule-book POV; thats from my personal, humane POV.

Say for instance 1 of my classes, hypothetically, gets the ability to insta-kill you by spinning around twice then type /dance. No chance to retaliate; insta dead. Im talking hypothetical here. Would I do it? Nope.. since it takes any fun away in the game for both me AND for the enemy; who afterall is a human being just like me and you.

Thats the point you seem to miss. I dont see any Alb as 'my enemy must die at any price !!!11' . My case is abit more extreme; but the principal is the same.

So fucking what if they're doing it to get free rps.. if you get a chance of getting free rps will you pass the oportunity? No, I didn't think so. I wouldn't gloat on FH about it if it was me who did it, but I'd certainly have a hearty laugh about all the incredibley bitter people posting in here

Guess there is the difference between you and me then. I dont resort to 'lamer' tactics to get free RP's. I got over 9 million RP's on all my chars; you honestly think I go ruin the fun for me AND OTHERS just by doing lame tactics to get 'free RP's' ?

C'mon, we only have the fun we create ourselves.. no reason to become hostile and bitter over it - let it go, RN it if you find it abusive and get on with your life

I ask yourselves the question what is the fun in FZ'ing an unprepared person who has, by definition (due to Vanish/SoS) no chance to win both for me as for him.. There is none.

That's the difference. You dont seem to understand that. Too bad because further argueing is therefore useless.

 

[raid]

I sure as hell wont group up and duo the poor one gettign FZ'ed from the boat.. Even more lame from my PoV.

The point you, and Arauddry, seem to miss is I dont say its illegal, bugabuse or whatever. I say its LAME. Thats not from a rule-book POV; thats from my personal, humane POV.

lol really u cant be serious ?

It was YOUR fg doing this to soloers first or second day of NF, got killed by your FG at beno docks 3 times in a row in ~5-10mins (i kept going back because I thought that a high rr grp wont resort to camping), last time I even got to boat but you FZed me out and killed. Then I QQed smth on /gu and Kklas was like "oh you can zephyr ppl out of boat, gotta try that"

 

[Puppet]

lol really u cant be serious ?

It was YOUR fg doing this to soloers first or second day of NF, got killed by your FG at beno docks 3 times in a row in ~5-10mins (i kept going back because I thought that a high rr grp wont resort to camping), last time I even got to boat but you FZed me out and killed. Then I QQed smth on /gu and Kklas was like "oh you can zephyr ppl out of boat, gotta try that"

You keep saying this; provide to show me a picture where *I* am playing in that so called high RR group? My memory is pretty good and I dont recall camping Beno docks with 'a high RR group' let alone FZ'ing people out of a boat.

Played mostly my ranger FYI and the 3 times I played my druid seriously in a high RR group I did not camp docks at Beno; let alone FZ'ing peeps 3x in a row in 5-10 mins.

So.... no clue wtf u talking about.

 

[raid]

You keep saying this; provide to show me a picture where *I* am playing in that so called high RR group? My memory is pretty good and I dont recall camping Beno docks with 'a high RR group' let alone FZ'ing people out of a boat.

Played mostly my ranger FYI and the 3 times I played my druid seriously in a high RR group I did not camp docks at Beno; let alone FZ'ing peeps 3x in a row in 5-10 mins.

So.... no clue wtf u talking about.

I dont take screenshots if I get ganked by a fg when I'm soloing, but you were definitely in the group as you were the first one I targeted and recognized the name, not any doubt about it. Your grp was not exactly camping, more like roaming the beno bridge/dock area but whats the difference in "camping" or passing them often enough so that a soloer gets killed 3 times in a row when I just /release, rebuff, run back (zephyred only once)? Btw I dont mind dying or dont care at all about the zephyring, its just the hypocrisy in your posts I find really sad.

 

[Joohl]

Apperantly FZ'ing peps of boats and horse are not suposed to be in this game but it will not be fixed untill patch 1.72. So can we all agree thats this is a "game feature" witch we are not suposed to have. Anyways 1.72 will nerf that free RP skill of those Sojs-Boys, who ever they are (all realms).

http://www.camelotherald.com/patches.php?mode=live
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Dark Age of Camelot
Version 1.72 Release Notes
Fallen Barriers
October 26, 2004

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NEW THINGS AND BUG FIXES

- Forceful Zephyr will no longer pull players off of boats or horses.


My opinion about this, since I'm a pve player mostly, I'd proly go along with it one time a night, then go back to pve if same char keept doing it. This due to camping docs with FZ seams lame to me. Hell I even got a better idea camp the shit out of docs so alot of peps whine and go to right now, soon enough we get docs inside keeps

 

[Derric]

Raid, don't bother, Puppet got one of the most selective memories in the world.

 

[Araudry]

Guess there is the difference between you and me then. I dont resort to 'lamer' tactics to get free RP's. I got over 9 million RP's on all my chars; you honestly think I go ruin the fun for me AND OTHERS just by doing lame tactics to get 'free RP's' ?

lolage irl hahahah

 

[Zedenz]

Originally Posted by Puppet


Guess there is the difference between you and me then. I dont resort to 'lamer' tactics to get free RP's. I got over 9 million RP's on all my chars; you honestly think I go ruin the fun for me AND OTHERS just by doing lame tactics to get 'free RP's' ?

Yes I do actually, Mister Spineless "Cheap Shot Special" Sprout.

 

[Puppet]

lolage irl hahahah

but instead we now get Arauddry coming in with 'lol grow up fucktat my english skillszor lol go play game lolzor QQ' instead.


And Im awaiting Dreami to come in and aid the PE-members soon enough.. Farrell already showing up 'telling his guildies puppet his memory is very selective'..

Oh God you guys are so predictable.. Arauddry is now Forgetten Legends but still same old.

Have fun discussing anymore; and have fun telling me how selective my memory is and how my druid FZ'ed people whatever..

 

[Araudry]

but instead we now get Arauddry coming in with 'lol grow up fucktat my english skillszor lol go play game lolzor QQ' instead.


And Im awaiting Dreami to come in and aid the PE-members soon enough.. Farrell already showing up 'telling his guildies puppet his memory is very selective'..

Oh God you guys are so predictable.. Arauddry is now Forgetten Legends but still same old.

Have fun discussing anymore; and have fun telling me how selective my memory is and how my druid FZ'ed people whatever..

just read my first reply i think its enought said

yes u are wrong now stfu.

 

[Derric]

You're so cute when you're like this Puppet, can I come visit in your world some day?

 

[Borvo]

the only reason mythic/goa say FZing people out of boat is not a bug is because then they have to fix it fast and to ban cash. therefor they just fix it in later patch and let it stay ingame meanwhile...not really hard to figure out

 

[raid]

but instead we now get Arauddry coming in with 'lol grow up fucktat my english skillszor lol go play game lolzor QQ' instead.


And Im awaiting Dreami to come in and aid the PE-members soon enough.. Farrell already showing up 'telling his guildies puppet his memory is very selective'..

Oh God you guys are so predictable.. Arauddry is now Forgetten Legends but still same old.

Have fun discussing anymore; and have fun telling me how selective my memory is and how my druid FZ'ed people whatever..

I don't blindly defend my guildies, it was never the reason I posted in this thread and not that it matters but Arauddry is in PE again. Sure your druid cant FZ anyone I am well aware of it but last time I checked Arauddry can't either yet you still flame him.