Wedding Trashers!

[Genedril]

Stop writing like a first year philosophy student and have some simple fucking human decency.

In all fairness A first year Philososphy student would come up with some trite along the lines of 'I have never met you; therefore you don't exist'. Which does seem to be the level of some people here, but there you go.

However, I'm not justifying that stance. Anyone who claims that "it's a game & the people behind it & their feelings dont' matter" while playing an online game which requires a degree of social interaction beggars belief to people that actually operate in the real world as well.

On top of that all this 'thou shalt not add' (which I try to adhere to + not taking soloers unless far too drunk (yeah, everyone has an excuse so I apologise now to those that suffer my "I'm hammered & it's an enemy" targetting sometimes)) & then whining about someone holding a funeral just rings a bit false to me. I suppose I agree with Mael on that - & not just cause we're in the same guild.

 

[Sharkith]

when I saw this thread and posted back a bit I felt then it was going to get out of hand. It is not surprising that it has in a way. I am just shocked by the comments of people in this thread they should really think about themselves very carefully and be ashamed.

When your here your not in the game just remember that.

This is a forum where people come to discuss things and express their views and share their gaming experience. This board is one step away from the game and I really wish some of you would stop treating this place like it is the game. On this board your not roleplaying.

 

[Olenda]

In my eye's no-one here has condonned the behaviour in that video saying "yeh thats fine i would do exactly the same". Because the majority of the people would'nt, but in a Game like wow in which this took place you think the ones holding the ceremony would think for more than one second and realize that they could have done this in a place where members of another realm could attend and they would be immune to attack to prevent something like this. Especially in a game where the average player is a 13 year old l33t kiddy.

At no point did Jjuraa say he would do the same, he merely stated that putting an event similar to this smack bang in the middle of one of the most active RvR areas is in my eyes as well as his apprently like forcing it upon the community. I have no issue with offering my respect to those who lose friends in the online world, and i would indeed give my sympathys to them. But that doesnt mean i feel the same degree of loss as them, i never knew them, i never knew whether they were funny, serious or anything about them... Therefore how can i even begin to mourn their death or show the respect and depth of feeling i would see from my real life friends and family if i was to die.

In my opinion if these events are to be held in what is essentially rvr zone they should be held away from the main 'active' areas of RvR because although people can show respect and sympathy the main reason the majority of us play these games is for escapism to escape to a world where death is not death and is not the end of everything, where you can type /rel and carry on. For instance surs is a very unactive area for albion based rvr and therefore it did not disrupt or prevent people from playing the game and doing rvr. I did indeed feel some empathy towards those who had lost thier friend but i was not in attendance as i did not know him and therefore i would feel uncomfortable and in my eyes it would have been inappropriate for me to take part.

I think many of you have blown this arguement from its rails and taken it into a completly different area from the original comments. Jjuraa was clearly stating, in my eyes, that he would not attend these functions, this is rightly his choice whether he attends or does not attend. But it should for all intensive purposes have been held in a more suitable zone in which rvr was not so hotly contested. It is unfair to force these memorials upon others yet by no means does this non attendance make you a unsympathetic soul less bastard.

Just my 2cents on this situation...

 

[Sharkith]

I would like to point out that my comments were not actually directed at Jjuraa they were reserved for those occassional posters in the thread who really should have avoided posting.

As I said previously I have some sympathy for Jjuraa's views (and yours Olenda) although the manner in which those views were expressed could have been put a bit more sensitively. My point was reserved for some of the really stupid comments made by people who really should show some respect.

 

[ebenezer]

In my eye's no-one here has condonned the behaviour in that video saying "yeh thats fine i would do exactly the same". Because the majority of the people would'nt, but in a Game like wow in which this took place you think the ones holding the ceremony would think for more than one second and realize that they could have done this in a place where members of another realm could attend and they would be immune to attack to prevent something like this. Especially in a game where the average player is a 13 year old l33t kiddy.

At no point did Jjuraa say he would do the same, he merely stated that putting an event similar to this smack bang in the middle of one of the most active RvR areas is in my eyes as well as his apprently like forcing it upon the community. I have no issue with offering my respect to those who lose friends in the online world, and i would indeed give my sympathys to them. But that doesnt mean i feel the same degree of loss as them, i never knew them, i never knew whether they were funny, serious or anything about them... Therefore how can i even begin to mourn their death or show the respect and depth of feeling i would see from my real life friends and family if i was to die.

In my opinion if these events are to be held in what is essentially rvr zone they should be held away from the main 'active' areas of RvR because although people can show respect and sympathy the main reason the majority of us play these games is for escapism to escape to a world where death is not death and is not the end of everything, where you can type /rel and carry on. For instance surs is a very unactive area for albion based rvr and therefore it did not disrupt or prevent people from playing the game and doing rvr. I did indeed feel some empathy towards those who had lost thier friend but i was not in attendance as i did not know him and therefore i would feel uncomfortable and in my eyes it would have been inappropriate for me to take part.

I think many of you have blown this arguement from its rails and taken it into a completly different area from the original comments. Jjuraa was clearly stating, in my eyes, that he would not attend these functions, this is rightly his choice whether he attends or does not attend. But it should for all intensive purposes have been held in a more suitable zone in which rvr was not so hotly contested. It is unfair to force these memorials upon others yet by no means does this non attendance make you a unsympathetic soul less bastard.

Just my 2cents on this situation...

I wasnt at the service either. And i wouldnt wanna force anyone to attend it. nor though i expect anyone else to. What i was discusted over was the fact that some people dont know when to shut up...or be respectfull to other people that may read this boards,,or to people that hear about these threads and know the guy. No they just have to make there little comment or point because thats more important. And then make a comment that state that they dont symphasise with them cause they dont know them...or they dont care etc..what the fuck?? Why make a comment at all a bout it. Just say i want there or whatever. No i didnt even disagree that the place for the memorial might be a bit of a starnge choise cause of the some elements in this game. But i do think there is a moment were you should shut it..and not only think about me me me. And this was clearly such a moment. Not a moment to make it worse for those in need....
over and out..

 

[Genedril]

I think many of you have blown this arguement from its rails and taken it into a completly different area from the original comments. Jjuraa was clearly stating, in my eyes, that he would not attend these functions, this is rightly his choice whether he attends or does not attend. But it should for all intensive purposes have been held in a more suitable zone in which rvr was not so hotly contested. It is unfair to force these memorials upon others yet by no means does this non attendance make you a unsympathetic soul less bastard.

Just my 2cents on this situation...

I wish that Ag was a hotly contested RvR area . Can't argue that it's not the ideal place to hold a funeral, but I think someone pointed out that there was another ceremony for the event that wasn't held there. However, somewhere in the frontiers it had to be so that friends from other realms could attend. I didn't attend either as I didn't know the person & it would have been hypocritical of me to do so in my eyes for that reason - how could I attend a rememberance of someone I have no memory of. If I'd seen it & was RvR I'd have avoided it. There's plenty of places to fight - even in the Isle of Lag.

 

[Kalba]

I do agree that it's bad, but doing something like that with a group of people that #nocare can be a lot of fun!

And seriously, if you want to ensure this doesnt happen you should of course keep it in a non pvp zone