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Electric Chair, but even then that's a bit soft for him.
 

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Think the issue is with equal law.

There's no king judging over cses and persons, so you have to follow the law and give sentences according to it. If you went by "but he's a psycho", law would become biased.

The comforting part, to those who need it, is that usually repeat offenders will reach the magical 3 strikes and be thrown away for longer.
 

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i would happily beat him to death with an iron bar

him and his "mate" should both of been hanged by rights, and failing that, the torture and murder of a defenceless child should carry LIFE in prison, minimum 30 years

this country is fucking pathetic

/edit found the thing i was looking for

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Venables and Thompson abducted two-year-old James while he was shopping with his mother at the New Strand Shopping Centre in Bootle on 12 February 1993.

The toddler was beaten with bricks and iron bars and his body left on a railway line.

His killers were detained at Her Majesty's pleasure, the usual substitute for life imprisonment for juvenile offenders.

In 2001, when they turned 18, both were freed, despite public outcry.

my bold obv, now i may not be a maths genius, but 1993->2010 is a fucking joke of a sentence
 

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I hope someone throws paint in HIS face, shoves batteries in HIS mouth, stones him and beats him with a heavy iron bar before putting his dead body across a railway to be mutilated.

I'm not usually one for biblical "eye for an eye" but in this case, I'll make a welcome exception. No way in HELL should he have been let back out. Being released on licence means that if you commit a criminal act, you're back in jail. Do not pass go, do not collect £200.
 

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my bold obv, now i may not be a maths genius, but 1993->2010 is a fucking joke of a sentence

Presume you meant 2001 there?

I honestly cannot believe this sentence either. Murdering a 2 year old in such a way carries 8 years, after which getting away with possession of cocaine? And now distributing child pornography and he only gets 2 years?

Yet people carrying out euthenasia will serve longer terms then all of those acts combined. In fact fuck that, accidentally killing someone can still hold a longer sentence then all of those combined...

This countries justice system is just pathetic...
 

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I hope someone throws paint in HIS face, shoves batteries in HIS mouth

I've not checked, but I'm pretty sure that was a made up urban myth that did the rounds.

Edit: my bad, the sensationalism was that they rubbed paint in his eyes and shoved batteries up his bum.
 

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i would happily beat him to death with an iron bar

him and his "mate" should both of been hanged by rights

Yeah because the best way to deal with 2 children who had been abused their entire lives and were clearly very messed up individuals is to beat them to death. I mean once they've done something terrible that's just a green light for society to do something just as terrible isn't it?

It amazes me that whenever this issue comes up there are huge numbers of people who would apparently have quite happily put two 10-11 year old children to death, often with a side helping of torture/beating beforehand. It's just a shame society didn't/doesn't think to look at the real people behind the death of Jamie Bulger, i.e. the parents who systematically abused Thompson and Venables and turned them into individuals who thought nothing of walking out of a shopping centre with a todder and then murdering him.
 

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Wrote a reply to that, but decided not to post it. It'd jsut get the usual "you're trolling" replies so i'll just leave it at what i said earlier.
 

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Yes that is the best way to deal with them. Society doesnt need hand wringing idiot liberals, it needs the removal of scum like that.

From the face of the planet.
 

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Yes that is the best way to deal with them. Society doesnt need hand wringing idiot liberals, it needs the removal of scum like that.

From the face of the planet.

So instead of helping children who've been abused by their parents, older siblings and peers to the point where they can't tell right from wrong and think that beating another child with bricks and iron bars is acceptable behaviour we should just exterminate them?

In this world of yours where it's acceptable to kill children for having the cheek to have been born to violently abusive parents at what stage do we bring in the extermination teams? Do we wait till they've commited some sort of crime or should we just act early and nip in in the bud before they do something really bad?
 

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Except in this particular case, trying to put him on the straight and narrow didn't work, did it? It's 9 years later and he's still a fucked up person who gets jollies from watching kids being corrupted.

He has shown himself to be a recidivist and I have no patience or sympathy for him.
 

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You have to ask yourself what would be the appropriate punishment for having and showing naked kid pictures as an adult, not base the judgement on a crime done when he was 11.

Obviously it taught him something if he went from brutal murder to perverse computer pictures.

Oh and i do agree with Krazeh, anyone who would HONESTLY kill someone for something they did(especially with no personal issues in it), are no better. If not worse for being willing to kill a minor.
 

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Obviously it taught him something if he went from brutal murder to perverse computer pictures.

Ladies and gents, I give you Tohtori-Logic™. As you can see, it does not resemble our earth logic.
 

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No, beause i don't want a 10 page argument over it and with that attitude, it would be. If someone wants to talk about it, can pm without taking the whole thread about it.
 

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No, beause i don't want a 10 page argument over it and with that attitude, it would be. If someone wants to talk about it, can pm without taking the whole thread about it.
If you say so, but if you honestly think that the original statement is has a logical defense then it goes further to prove that you don't understand logic.
 

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So instead of helping children who've been abused by their parents, older siblings and peers to the point where they can't tell right from wrong and think that beating another child with bricks and iron bars is acceptable behaviour we should just exterminate them?

Yes. I make no apology for my opinion.

I honestly don't give a fuck what a terrible life a murderer / rapist has had, as soon as they commit a violent murder, assault or rape then they give up their human rights. They've ruined and torn apart someone's life and impacted those around them; they need removed permanently.

The case of Venables backs this up; he's got no purpose here, he'll offend again and I don't wanna have to be posting on a Freddy's thread 5 years from now saying "I told you so" while all the do gooders want to "understand and rehabilitate" him.

Electrocute the fucker. Twice.
 

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as soon as they commit a violent murder

Wouldn't that be the case with anyone who exacted vigilante justice on the wrong doer too?

Nath, no need to try baiting with the insults, PM if you're curious.
 

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Except in this particular case, trying to put him on the straight and narrow didn't work, did it? It's 9 years later and he's still a fucked up person who gets jollies from watching kids being corrupted.

He has shown himself to be a recidivist and I have no patience or sympathy for him.

Excuse me, but how do you know he was looking at child porn for sexual gratification?

Am I missing something in the news reports I've read about this?
 

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Excuse me, but how do you know he was looking at child porn for sexual gratification?

Am I missing something in the news reports I've read about this?
From the originally quoted report...
He pleaded guilty to three offences under the 1978 Protection of Children Act. The first involved downloading 57 indecent pictures of children between February 2009 and February 2010. The second involved distributing three indecent photographs of children in February 2010, while a third involved distributing 42 images in February 2008.
Applying a bit of predicate logic here.

Downloading indecent images of children on multiple occasions.
Indecent usually means sexually explicit.
Sexually explicit usually means for sexual gratification.
Therefore downloading indecent images of children is for sexual gratification.

Hence my comment about "gets jollies from watching kids being corrupted."


The one and only other reason I can think of for anyone to download this material would be if they were TRYING to get put into jail.
 

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The one and only other reason I can think of for anyone to download this material would be if they were TRYING to get put into jail.

Not far fetched either, seeing if he's spent 7 years of prime growing up time there.
 

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Both of them should not be alive today. No amount of talk about being abused as kids or any such talk will ever persuade me otherwise.

Just read that he will have another new identity issued when he is released at a cost of 250,000 (sterling). What on earth for? Clearly there is something wrong with this guy and it would be a crime to allow him to breed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...after-he-is-jailed-over-child-sex-images.html

That is just sick. On the one hand we are being told the government has no money for basic services and yet we must find money to hide the identity of this guy? Does he really deserve a new identity after re-offending again? Should he be entitled to any such anonymity and if so why?

Also for Krazeh, when you talking about the parents being so screwed up, personally i have always felt that the parents should have been killed for the murder in the first place because a) having such fucked up kids and b) responsible for irresposible behavour of their children C) taken out of the gene pool as clearly something is wrong. Some might it too hardcore to take decisions like this but in certain times /conditions for me this type of action is fair and justified. Someone must be held accountable and it is a travesty that both the murderers and their parents are still out there free and alive.
 

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id agree with that

it got to the point with kids not going to school that they started fineing the parents. if you use the "oh theyre too young blah blah" then fine, but SOMEONE is responsible for their behaviour, so yes, do the parents at the same time.
 

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how about those evil bastards who make computer games so lifelike? lets kill them all too for encouraging bad behaviour before it gets out of hand.

you lot are fucking barbarians. lock them up for their entire lives by all means but to go around hanging, stoning and generally behaving like cavemen is not the way forward. sure it will cost a few quid but its nothing compared to how much of my income tax went to paying bank bonuses this year so frankly I dont give a shit.
 

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