Politics US Election 2020

Who do you think will win the Presidential election of 2020?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 17 85.0%

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Gwadien

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This guy does a good job at explaining why Biden needs to win; to normalise us politics.

I play a game with a former Marine who now sells guns and helps the police out when they have sieges and stuff, he's voting for Biden for the same reason, even though its not really in his best interest.


View: https://youtu.be/RQhvhKBwwx0
 

Ormorof

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Most recounts dont end up changing more than a few hundred so if difference is thousands then its just playing for time
 

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From the beeb:

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a close ally of Donald Trump, has pledged to donate $500,000 (£380,000) to help fund the Trump campaign's lawsuits.

"The allegations of wrongdoing are Earth-shattering," Graham, who was re-elected in South Carolina, told Sean Hannity in an interview with Fox News, without providing any details.

"I'm here tonight to stand with President Trump - he stood with me, he's the reason we're going to have a Senate majority," he said.

The money donated to Trump's legal team will come from Graham's own campaign funds, the Associated Press reports.

Trump, who has filed a barrage of lawsuits alleging irregularities and lack of transparency in several states, has said he is prepared to take the election to the Supreme Court, and his campaign is asking Republican donors to help fund legal challenges.

Democrat rival Joe Biden is also gearing up for battles in the courts.

Biden's campaign manager, Jen O'Malley Dillon, has started a fundraising effort, sending an email to supporters. "We are standing up the biggest and most comprehensive legal effort ever assembled," she wrote, adding: "I am coming to you to ask you to pitch $25 in to the newly-formed Biden Fight Fund."

Biden's running-mate, Kamala Harris, earlier tweeted asking supporters to contribute $5 to help pay for litigation that could "stretch on for weeks".
 

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Except that the guy on the starting line with him is almost identical.

If it ends up as a few tbousand votes in it then absolutely recounts will be incoming - and considering it's for the presidency that's not unreasonable.

Why should there be a recount if the process was done lawfully?

Just because Trump makes up the truth doesn't mean can force a recount:
 

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Trump is completely correct about big tech and media using their power against him, its nothing new on the whole..but this is the first time weve seen the titans of propaganda and information filtering, turn their reach against a president.

As for the voting fraud, he's just stirring shit...and that also, is nothing new.

The saddest thing for me is seeing democrats moaning about their lack of a landslide.
'How can people vote for something....weve clearly been told by our liberal press....that is so evil.'

If Biden wins, he'll be a lame duck president, I dont even know what he wants to do outside of beat orangeman, just more pandering to the voter base I presume as for both sides, except his voter base has a very slim grip on reality while totally convinced they are the ones with all the truths.

Half the country will just keep listening to Trump on twatter and calling conspiracy everytime they block his tweets.
 

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Trump is completely correct about big tech and media using their power against him, its nothing new on the whole..but this is the first time weve seen the titans of propaganda and information filtering, turn their reach against a president.

They punished him for spreading false information, inciting violence and etc.
 

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Good graphic from the BBC

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Job

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This seems like a legit Twatter ban.

Typical CNN putting a picture of angry Trump alongside the story.
 

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Oh..
So it was punishment.
Its all becoming clear.
They are the judiciary now.
 

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Oh..
So it was punishment.
Its all becoming clear.
They are the judiciary now.
No, if you spread bullshit or incite violence they are more than welcome allowed to censor or show that you are wrong. tRump deserves all that he gets.

Like for instance his latest WH speech where he spread more lies so many news networks simply cut him off. Good.
 

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Media cuts off man complaining about the media.
Go figure.
 

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Media cuts off man complaining about the media.
Go figure.
What? Are you really that fucking dumb? tRump said on air that the election was fraudalent, rigged and they are trying to steal it. ALL LIES AND MISINFORMATION. That is why they shut the cunt down.
 

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What? Are you really that fucking dumb? tRump said on air that the election was fraudalent, rigged and they are trying to steal it. ALL LIES AND MISINFORMATION. That is why they shut the cunt down.
They cut off the president of the United States, can you not see the absolute power there and the absolute corruption of that power.
He was making an accusation, to be settled..no doubt..in court.
They decided to be prosecution, witness and judge on the spot.
They proved his point in real time, just because you agree does not make it right.
Its the most fucking outrageous abuse of their position.
 

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They cut off the president of the United States, can you not see the absolute power there and the absolute corruption of that power.
He was making an accusation, to be settled..no doubt..in court.
They decided to be prosecution, witness and judge on the spot.
They proved his point in real time, just because you agree does not make it right.
Its the most fucking outrageous abuse of their position.
Because he was talking absolute nonsense and didn't present a shred of evidence to support his absolute nonsense. He's pathetic. Look back through history to see how presidents have reacted when they don't think it's going to go in their favour and then look at that sad bullshit from Trump. He's the President for fucks sake. He's going to send lawsuits flying around but let them do the talking, don't just stand there whining about how it's just not fair.

He doesn't think votes should be counted past election day. All of the states (if not all, the vast majority) disagree with that. He knew this, this is why he encouraged Republican voters to vote on the day and not by mail and then did his level best to cripple the USPS. He's tried his level best to steal the election himself and it doesn't look like it has worked. Boo hoo.
 

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They cut off the president of the United States, can you not see the absolute power there and the absolute corruption of that power.
He was making an accusation, to be settled..no doubt..in court.
They decided to be prosecution, witness and judge on the spot.
They proved his point in real time, just because you agree does not make it right.
Its the most fucking outrageous abuse of their position.
Fuck me, they can choose to air what they want. The moment his mouth opened he was talking lies. They cut him off and explained why they did it.

Take 5 minutes and read the following article which fact checks all his lies.

 

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Biden's just taken the lead in Georgia with the latest batch of votes - he's 917 votes up.
 

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What? Are you really that fucking dumb? tRump said on air that the election was fraudalent, rigged and they are trying to steal it. ALL LIES AND MISINFORMATION. That is why they shut the cunt down.
To be fair, it's likely lies and misinformation - totally agree. However that can be brought throught the courts to decide either way and we should reserve judgement - they say they've got proof. It's for them to prove it as it's a serious allegation.

On your point about the censorship - again, totally agree. As private companies they can do whatever the fuck they like. However, there's definitely a wider issue in play around corporate control of a primary speech medium.

That issue is wider than just a single election - a country with constitutionally protected free speech is lagging behind on governance of companies that control a huge swathe of expression.

It rankles with me that neither of the political sides have an appetite to enhance the constitution's protection of free expression - rather both sides only want their version of the truth to be allowable.

Trump or Biden, meh. Free speech is bigger than any of this - and goes to the heart of the only country where humans are constitutionally protected in their freedom to express their thoughts.
 

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Trump is having an EPIC meltdown on Twitter, this is so funny.
Fucking cannot wait to see tRump's response over the next few days. I bet Twitter is installing servers at a stupid rate :p Wonder if it will crash....
 

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Fucking cannot wait to see tRump's response over the next few days. I bet Twitter is installing servers at a stupid rate :p Wonder if it will crash....

Lol, courts are throwing Trump's lawsuits out as well because the judges can see its bullshit.
 

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Expect recounts in GA and PA at least but looks wrapped up for Sleepy Joe now
 

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