Politics US Election 2020

Who do you think will win the Presidential election of 2020?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 17 85.0%
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Apparently tRump is going to announce a lawsuit against Nevada soon.
 
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Deebs said:
Apparently tRump is going to announce a lawsuit against Nevada soon.
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He can announce whatever he wants, legal experts and even republicans say theres fuck all they can do lol. We already knew he wouldn't go quietly.
 
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He can announce whatever he wants, legal experts and even republicans say theres fuck all they can do lol. We already knew he wouldn't go quietly.
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I hope he squats in the WH and has to be forcibly marched out :)
 
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He's awake....

First tweet "Stop the count".

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Trump might be about to lose Georgia - about 60,000 votes left to count. Biden needs 60% of the remaining votes to beathim, most of them are absentee votes as well I believe.

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Trump might be about to lose Georgia - about 60,000 votes left to count. Biden needs 60% of the remaining votes to beathim, most of them are absentee votes as well I believe.
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OK. Lets indulge tin-foil for a while. :)


If you're confident that absentee votes would go for Biden, maybe Trump's got a point about absentee votes? Why would they be politically biased?

I've read a lot of articles about why they say voter fraud isn't a thing. The two main points repeatedly being raised when I read about this to prove the security of postal votes are:

There are provisions in place to prevent people from impersonating voters or stealing ballots - such as authorities checking that ballots have come from voters' registered address and requiring signatures on envelopes.
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Are they really going to verify every single signature on every postal vote against a record?

If they don't detect false signatures, then they've "no evidence of fraud" is there? Which is what they say. But absence of evidence etc. etc.

At this level of closeness a vanishingly small amount of fraud could tip the balance.



But meh. I don't think it's a thing. And, frankly, couldn't care less either way. The only thing that makes me lean towards Biden is that the US will jump back in to the Paris agreements. Nothing else.
 
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Scouse said:
OK. Lets indulge tin-foil for a while. :)


If you're confident that absentee votes would go for Biden, maybe Trump's got a point about absentee votes? Why would they be politically biased?

I've read a lot of articles about why they say voter fraud isn't a thing. The two main points repeatedly being raised when I read about this to prove the security of postal votes are:



Are they really going to verify every single signature on every postal vote against a record?

If they don't detect false signatures, then they've "no evidence of fraud" is there? Which is what they say. But absence of evidence etc. etc.

At this level of closeness a vanishingly small amount of fraud could tip the balance.



But meh. I don't think it's a thing. And, frankly, couldn't care less either way. The only thing that makes me lean towards Biden is that the US will jump back in to the Paris agreements. Nothing else.
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Because Trump literally told his voters not to mail-in votes and do it in person? Trump say and his voterbase do.
 
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Scouse said:
OK. Lets indulge tin-foil for a while. :)


If you're confident that absentee votes would go for Biden, maybe Trump's got a point about absentee votes? Why would they be politically biased?

I've read a lot of articles about why they say voter fraud isn't a thing. The two main points repeatedly being raised when I read about this to prove the security of postal votes are:



Are they really going to verify every single signature on every postal vote against a record?

If they don't detect false signatures, then they've "no evidence of fraud" is there? Which is what they say. But absence of evidence etc. etc.

At this level of closeness a vanishingly small amount of fraud could tip the balance.



But meh. I don't think it's a thing. And, frankly, couldn't care less either way. The only thing that makes me lean towards Biden is that the US will jump back in to the Paris agreements. Nothing else.
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Dems have taken advantage of postal ballots because its a way around systematic voter suppression (like not opening enough polling stations are ID checks that have proven to be Constable Savage levels of wrong). The Dems actually started pushing this as a workaround even before COVID, which is why Trump has spent the last year trying to gut the US Postal Service. So no, Trump doesn't have a point. Somewhat ironically, postal votes may actually be working in his favour in Arizona, which is why they were expected to declare much earlier and everyone was calling it for Biden but have now gone a bit quiet...
 
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Dems have taken advantage of postal ballots because its a way around systematic voter suppression (like not opening enough polling stations are ID checks that have proven to be Constable Savage levels of wrong). The Dems actually started pushing this as a workaround even before COVID, which is why Trump has spent the last year trying to gut the US Postal Service. So no, Trump doesn't have a point. Somewhat ironically, postal votes may actually be working in his favour in Arizona, which is why they were expected to declare much earlier and everyone was calling it for Biden but have now gone a bit quiet...
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Yep. Don't doubt that.

But the fraud point I'm still interested in. You know I don't think there's much in it between Dems and GOP and don't give much of a fuck either way but for the environment - but if the thing that they're using to stop fraud is a signature then despite there being "no evidence" of widespread fraud, it doesn't mean that that's not taking place.

(To be fair - the real fraud is that there's no real democracy, but lets not go down that rabbit hole again).
 
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Biden reported at 253....
 
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I think it's pretty clear that our voting system isn't really fit for purpose for the 21st century.

I think it's odd that we hold democracy in such high regard but we clearly don't spend enough money on 'doing' it imo.
 
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And registered address.
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So, it's got an address on the thing.

How is that protection? Can a fraudster not write an address?

And are they visually comparing every signature against a record?

Is that even secure??
 
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I think it's pretty clear that our voting system isn't really fit for purpose for the 21st century.

I think it's odd that we hold democracy in such high regard but we clearly don't spend enough money on 'doing' it imo.
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Blockchain. :)
 
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Scouse said:
So, it's got an address on the thing.

How is that protection? Can a fraudster not write an address?

And are they visually comparing every signature against a record?

Is that even secure??
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Well here it would be difficult to claim my postal vote by changing my address.

There was a study done that claimed fraud in postal votes in the USA is something like 0.0009%, either way it isn't why he is saying it or the particular states were setup to count late anyway.
 
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