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Anyone watching the Trump announcement?

Have gotten really excited as it looks like he was announcing The Wire 2.

If I was a resident of D.C. or the other US cities I would be getting worried. Fucking hell, now he is bringing up men playing in women's sports.
 

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Quote "A lot of people die in years". Fucking hell. What is the average IQ of Americans watching this?
 

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Trump is away with the fairies, ranting like a pissed grandad.
 

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Watching some stream, the viewers are saying that there was also a school shooting with 3 dead.
 

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Thoughts and prayers...always works fine.
Thoughts and prayers and...


It's just all too on the nose to be real life - his last words were mocking shootings, playing down gun violence and blaming the trans community.
 

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It seems like the BBC feels the need to create loads of live pages for events that just don't need them.
 

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Thoughts and prayers and...


It's just all too on the nose to be real life - his last words were mocking shootings, playing down gun violence and blaming the trans community.
Fuck him, good riddance, a genuinely terrible human being.
 

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Live by the sword and all that... political violence seems par for the course in US nowadays.

Now for endless bleating about how abhorrent it is from politicians who regularly encourage violence against their opponents, pearl clutching and claims of hypocrisy, then it will be back to usual grift
 

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They were all applauding the extrajudicial killing of a bunch of suspected drug dealers on a boat the other day. Now they're all crying at the killing of one of their own. Nancy Mace even said that the Democrats need to own it, and when someone asked her if Republicans should therefore own the killing of two Democrat senators a few months back, she was outraged.

America is fucked in the head. If they catch the shooter they'll almost certainly be on the right (just like the guy who went for Trump).
 

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It's just all too on the nose to be real life - his last words were mocking shootings, playing down gun violence and blaming the trans community.
Not according to what I read on the guardian they weren't.

And even if they were, so what? Doesn't deserve to be shot for having his own ideas.

It does seem like tge intolerant left is more shooty when it comes to politicians than the right doesn't it?
 

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Didn't see that reported anywhere?
Melissa Hortman, her husband and their dog. Not a senator, my mistake, a local politician. Along with politician John Hoffman and his wife (although they survived).
 

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Not if you do two seconds of research it doesn't
If even the Guardian isn't reporting on leftist US politicians getting shot at, then there's not even any smoke.

Why would I look for a fire when the noisiest of fire marshalls aren't shouting?
 

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If even the Guardian isn't reporting on leftist US politicians getting shot at, then there's not even any smoke.

Why would I look for a fire when the noisiest of fire marshalls aren't shouting?

Because you're not keeping up and we (royal) can't be arsed to keep telling you because you put your fingers in your ears and go lalala and drop insults.

Boring.

Boring and ignorant.
 

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Some say he's got a smooth brain, the smoothest. Everybody says it.
What a smooth brain they say.
 

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If even the Guardian isn't reporting on leftist US politicians getting shot at, then there's not even any smoke.

Why would I look for a fire when the noisiest of fire marshalls aren't shouting?

Yeah, I'm going to stop you there. When you start using the word "leftist" unironically, you're already beyond help.

There was a time when you would have laughed at any American politicians being described as left wing.

The fact that you're unaware of these incidents says more about the feedback bubble your own personal Overton Window is moving you into. Here's some you might have missed since 2020:

- Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul Pelosi, was attacked with a hammer in 2022 by a man who broke into their San Francisco home, reportedly seeking to harm the then–House Speaker.
- Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (Michigan) was the target of a kidnapping plot in 2020 by militia members angry over COVID restrictions.
- Gov. Josh Shapiro (Pennsylvania) had a fire set at his home while he and his family were inside.
- Rep. Melissa Hortman (Minnesota) and her husband were shot and killed in 2025 by a man impersonating a police officer.
- Sen. John Hoffman (Minnesota) and his wife were also shot in the same incident and hospitalized with serious injuries.
- Sen. Jon Tester (Montana) received dozens of violent threats from a man who was later arrested and found with a large cache of weapons.

On the flip side, Trump (although his *ahem* "attacker" wasn't "leftist"), Steve Scalise, and now Kirk.

So your premise is incorrect.
 

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What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism

Since 1990, far-right extremists have carried out 227 ideologically motivated homicides, resulting in more than 520 deaths.

In contrast, far-left extremists were responsible for 42 such attacks, with 78 deaths.
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Took me about 20 seconds to find a source, one that links to the actual data.
 

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It isn't even a day and the conspiracy crowd are already hard at work.

From the two guys next to him signalled the shooter, to his shirt flapping =ai deepfake and some qanon level conspiratard jump to he's still alive/god emporer trump flushing out the traitors/, to the same with his hinge ring.
To people saying a 200yard shot is really hard and the shooter musta been a government assassin who's fled the country already.

Also some stuff about kirk talking about epstein.
 

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Yeah, I'm going to stop you there. When you start using the word "leftist" unironically, you're already beyond help.
I have repeatedly decried the use of the left-right divide as bullshit and not particularly useful.

However, people, including around here, continue to use it all the time. So horses for courses, from "comrade Scouse".

I remember the Pelosi stuff. Really, all this is down to whackjobs. And the shootings are simply because of the two facts of a) having a culture of guns and, b) two sides bare-faced lying to each other.

If political discourse descends into what's happening now (I mean Trump didn't write that note? It was fake? Lol!) then there's really a couple of options - one's to shrug and carry on with life, but a small section of society will get shooty.

I guess the another is to get rage-inducingly angry when someone lobs a tongue-in-cheek 'leftist' barb into a thread, or twitter, or something.

I guess if you're feeling anger (mixed with a little bit of high-horse) then you're feeling something.

:)
 

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I don't recall any "leftist" "whackjobs" storming the US capitol in January this year.
 

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Q.E.D. :)

Comrade Scouse apparently qualifies as rabidly left and at the same time "captured by the rightwing media" and whatever social networks I use*.



*which are: none.
 

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All you had to say was "I missed that as im a silly goose who's been outside all summer" and we would have all moved on and frolicked in the fields

Now it seems anyone, anywhere outside the US, who "makes light" might be denied entry to the US in the future. Land of the free, champions of free speech indeed
 

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