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Fafnir
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Whats next people bragging how good they are useing radars, and other cheatprog's
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Nightchill
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This thread started off as an Alb congratulating his realm mates on the night's activities. It wasn't a brag.
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Bagloor
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GregorFlambasto
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Loads of problems in the game of which the Necro issue is one of, Mythic have attempted to fix it within the next patch set we will receive next 1.60. If and until GOA post saying this is bug abuse or game exploitation then people will use the tools they've been provided in anyway they can. Why not appeal to GOA about the problem for them to take action on, rather than to get nasty about people's personal sense of honour which differs from person to person. I'm sure if GOA documented it as a known issue which shouldnt be used the majority of necros who currently use it would stop. As it is at the moment you're just asking players to try and kill you differently.
Cheers....
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stafford
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no1 gives a shit when its chanters abusing LoS
or when spirit warriors can run through walls to hack down casters
oh and too the 2 mids who found me in the water with the icebreakers
FUKING NERF SUPPRESSION !
you killed me and 2 shotted the yellow icebreaker i was swimming towards
or when spirit warriors can run through walls to hack down casters
oh and too the 2 mids who found me in the water with the icebreakers
FUKING NERF SUPPRESSION !
you killed me and 2 shotted the yellow icebreaker i was swimming towards
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The reason nobody bothers to complain to GOA is because GOA have already officialy stated that using a necro pet at the wall of a keep is neither a bug or an exploit .. only if the pet is placed inside the keep wall where it can not be targeted does it become a exploit of game geometry and thus against CoC ..
So Mids are whining about something because it give the Albs an advantage .. I personally would like all Mid stealthers to stop stealthing because I can't see them and I can't stealth .. oh and they can stop climbing walls too as I can't do that .. might be an idea if they also stop killing me too as I can't kill myself neither .. all casters can stop casting spells .. etc .. etc ..
It's basically a feature that was put in the game .. if they change it latter on in a patch it's because they screwed up the game balance again and are trying to sort it .. for example : they are going to stop recently ressed people summoned by CorpseSummoner from gaining Realm Points for 30mins .. are people who then gain RPs after such a res in the current game exploiting a bug? No they are not because it's a feature of the game ..
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old.Hellskor
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lemme see ...
Chanter Pet : ~90dmg a nuke, rather slow
Necro Pet : ~200-300dmg close to cap speed
hmm...
never been killed by an enchanter pet unless seriously hurt before it started nuking (or kicked my out of stealth).
The -only- reason why Mythic/GOA can't call this a bug is, that every single Necro would be banned within 2 or 3 days due to bug exploiting.
If it's not considered a bug, why does it get 'fixed' i.e. removed in 1.58(?) ?
Chanter Pet : ~90dmg a nuke, rather slow
Necro Pet : ~200-300dmg close to cap speed
hmm...
never been killed by an enchanter pet unless seriously hurt before it started nuking (or kicked my out of stealth).
The -only- reason why Mythic/GOA can't call this a bug is, that every single Necro would be banned within 2 or 3 days due to bug exploiting.
If it's not considered a bug, why does it get 'fixed' i.e. removed in 1.58(?) ?
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Stafford, noone cares about chanters you say?
Apart from the necros shoving off the number one spot, they've been well and truly complained about.
Ah well, nothing to do with the LOS bug until 1.60 - so please bring it on GOA...
And NERF FRIARS - feel better Stafford?
Apart from the necros shoving off the number one spot, they've been well and truly complained about.
Ah well, nothing to do with the LOS bug until 1.60 - so please bring it on GOA...
And NERF FRIARS - feel better Stafford?
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ImLestat
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GOA has of course stated that the LoS issue isn't bug abuse, but that doesn't change the fact that it's lame. It's the worst lame thing I've seen in this game that ISN'T considered bug abuse yet, and all I can do is agree with Granite in all that he said. You Albs can keep abusing this issue, but don't pat each others back and say well done because you haven't got anything to be proud of. I would gladly congratulate you if you were using normal tactics, but this is so lame that you don't deserve any respect at all. So you say that those that didn't use the LoS issue fought well? Maybe, but did you win because of that? No, we all know why you won. Bow your heads in shame and I will at least accept that, but don't try to stand tall and proud because you don't deserve it.
It is true that it gets fixed in next patch, but we have to wait many times longer for the next patch than the players in the US had to. I knew this issue would arise if Goa decided to patch to 1.57 for SI. It just goes to show that Goa fucked up again, they should have gone to 1.58 directly because of the LoS issue alone, because there are always lameasses abusing all the issues they can. Now we have to wait several more weeks (maybe even months) before this gets fixed, knowing that Mythic fixed it within what, 2-3 weeks from when the issue arose? And the lameasses can just continue being lame...
Stafford, it seems like you are joking, but just in case you are not. The chanter LoS issue is less than ten times as bad as the necro LoS version, and I don't wish to repeat why once again. The sm spirit issue isn't even an issue since they are meleeing which doesn't exactly make them hard to stop.
And don't think I don't expect this post to be followed with a lot of "someone got pwned!" and "want some cheese with that?" posts. I don't care. It just needs to be said that you haven't got anything to be proud of.
It is true that it gets fixed in next patch, but we have to wait many times longer for the next patch than the players in the US had to. I knew this issue would arise if Goa decided to patch to 1.57 for SI. It just goes to show that Goa fucked up again, they should have gone to 1.58 directly because of the LoS issue alone, because there are always lameasses abusing all the issues they can. Now we have to wait several more weeks (maybe even months) before this gets fixed, knowing that Mythic fixed it within what, 2-3 weeks from when the issue arose? And the lameasses can just continue being lame...
Stafford, it seems like you are joking, but just in case you are not. The chanter LoS issue is less than ten times as bad as the necro LoS version, and I don't wish to repeat why once again. The sm spirit issue isn't even an issue since they are meleeing which doesn't exactly make them hard to stop.
And don't think I don't expect this post to be followed with a lot of "someone got pwned!" and "want some cheese with that?" posts. I don't care. It just needs to be said that you haven't got anything to be proud of.
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tenshi
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I would guess that the reason that they won't call the LOS issue a bug is because it's been in the game since release .. be a bit of a bad show if it took over a year to fix a bug wouldn't it .. they would also have to ban a few more classes than just Necro's for "exploitation" if they did .. but they seemed to class it as a game feature and until the Necro issue when it swung the game balance out the window again they didn't see a need to fix it ..
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GregorFlambasto
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Bug exploits that GOA dont like get flagged up in their news section as far as I know. If you exploit after being told then you deserve what you get. Mythic are always making changes to the game engine where "it's not running as intended". The only people who can call it a bug or exploit are mythic or GOA, until they do that you have a number of choices.
1) avoid conflicts with necros where possible
2) take a break from the game til its patched
3) quit
4) carry on filling the forums with posts which produce nothing
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Fafnir
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5) The necros can stop abusing the los. Or do they have to show how big their penis is before they get nerfed?
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Bagloor
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There you see even Mythic call it an EXPLOIT...
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cHodAX
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Guys my raid was Monday night not last night, we had 34 people and 2 of those were necros. I can't control how people play thier class but compared to a Hib keep raid there was alot less LoS exploiting going on. We had 2 rams total and took down 8 high level doors which meant 6 doors using nothing but swords and staves. By 2am our numbers were down to 18 Albs but we still fought off any Mid attacks, please don't be bitter because we went on the offense for once and actually made Midgard spend some money on doors.
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Hufner
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True, Chodax - I guess people here are taking the thread for Albion attacks in our frontier last night 
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the_smurflord
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Sorry, it was a present.
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GregorFlambasto
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Was a great raid and much fun Chodax thanks for leading.
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Granite_SC
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Appologies for my confusion cHodAX. Because the thread implied a current event I wrongly took it as being the last one. I speak personally about the alb raids on Tuesday night, not on Monday, and I mean not to put down any achievement you have undertaken through honest effort and good play.
Not being present on Monday, I can only appologise for bringing my opinions to this thread.
I am sure your groups played honourably and on that basis deserve praise indeed.
All I ask is that the albion community extend a little nderstanding to the players of Midguard, who for a reason that is clearly apparant to see, view the use of the necro exploit as a little bit more of a problem than you yourselves seem to be thinking it is.
Not being present on Monday, I can only appologise for bringing my opinions to this thread.
I am sure your groups played honourably and on that basis deserve praise indeed.
All I ask is that the albion community extend a little nderstanding to the players of Midguard, who for a reason that is clearly apparant to see, view the use of the necro exploit as a little bit more of a problem than you yourselves seem to be thinking it is.
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ImLestat
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Perhaps less PEOPLE exploiting the LoS, but they still do it to a larger degree than in a Hib raid. The necro issue IS worse than the chanter one.
I wasn't there monday evening, but I could place a bet that those necros were using the LoS issue, so in my view you haven't got anything to be proud of. Had there indeed not been any necros there at all (or necros that didn't use the LoS issue, as if that will ever happen..) I would have congratulated you.
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tis still midgard though :l
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cHodAX
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I can't make them not abuse that bug, people on the raid asked them to stop and they did. I can feel proud I got 30+ people to work together for 4+ hours without arguement and cost Midgard a boatload of money. Again, I can only play my own character and ask others to play thiers as it was intended. I am not God and not all people won't always stop bug abusing because they are asked too. This thread was my way of personally thanking everyone on the raid and the Midgardian defenders, I didn't want it turning into a flamefest.
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old.Atrox
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haha....
Albs cant do anything good, cuz everyone are abuseing bugs!!!!!
geez you mids are dumb, it's so easy to counter necros, but hey you might have to use your brain ( god forbid ).
It's easier to just sit back and whine.
and for you who complain about necros and the LoS bug, please try to play a necro in a keep without "abuseing" it.
You cant, so please let them have their fun for 1 patch, you will still have your grosly overpowerd Supp BD's.
and Hellskor, everything that gets "fixed/changed" arent bugs, and those who gain from them arent abusers, or would you call yourself an abuser for haveing 50%+ evade chance or useing IP, or FA2 in combat etc ?
so if your 100% clean then whine if not join the club for the pwn losers ^^
ps. it's whiners like you ppl that makes me wanna use the bug as much as I can.
Albs cant do anything good, cuz everyone are abuseing bugs!!!!!
geez you mids are dumb, it's so easy to counter necros, but hey you might have to use your brain ( god forbid ).
It's easier to just sit back and whine.
and for you who complain about necros and the LoS bug, please try to play a necro in a keep without "abuseing" it.
You cant, so please let them have their fun for 1 patch, you will still have your grosly overpowerd Supp BD's.
and Hellskor, everything that gets "fixed/changed" arent bugs, and those who gain from them arent abusers, or would you call yourself an abuser for haveing 50%+ evade chance or useing IP, or FA2 in combat etc ?
so if your 100% clean then whine if not join the club for the pwn losers ^^
ps. it's whiners like you ppl that makes me wanna use the bug as much as I can.
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stafford
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not really i dont do 700+ dmg pbae on a 3sec cast
the only thing a friar is good at is 1 on 1 melee
and we all know how rarely that happens
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You can't expect it to turn into anything ELSE than a flamefest, as long as there are necros there.
I am fully aware that you can't make other people not use the LoS issue, but as long as there are people doing it you won't get my respect. Of course you may not care if you have my respect or not, but I don't think I'm alone in this opinion.
So you got the two necros to stop using the issue? Well /salut to you if you did, I really mean that.
Atrox, 1 patch? The necros will have time to use this for upwards the time of 4-5 Mythic patches I think. How long did the people in the US have to stand it? 2-3 weeks perhaps? We've already passed that time by 3-4 weeks over here. During this patch Mid and Hib can't do much against your forces in keep raids because of this exploit. Sure there are ways to counter necros, but it's a hell of a lot harder than leaving your pet inside a keep, jump out and start nuking. Using an excuse like that is nearly as lame as using it.
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old.Atrox
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hey news flash, this is the EU servers not US, 1patch here means the time til we get a new one.
and mids wont get any respect as long as you have BD's doesnt metter if theres any there or not, aslong as your realm got them you all suck.
oh and an other news flash for you, Hibs are 10x worse then Albs in keeps.
Anyway, we all know about the bug, necros wont stop useing it, and we also know that it will get fixed, so cut the cheese will you ?
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ImLestat
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Excuses excuses. You keep up your lameness, wouldn't expect anything else of you.
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Bagloor
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This just looks like a try to justify your exploiting. News flash... it wont work.
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Brannor McThife
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ahahahaOriginally posted by Fafnir
lol, heard you where 80 albs attacking our keeps. But guess you albs cant take keeps with less.
I have a screenshot of 130+ Mids at DC. How's that glass house of yours?
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Brannor McThife
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Agree totally on this. Lots of things are changed as the game developes. Everyone knew that FA was not supposed to be usable in combat, but did that stop those that had it from using what was clearly a bug? LoS is not a bug. It was designed to work that way, intentionally. Bah, who cares.
Anyway, your PS is so true. I used to target those I knew whined about necros. Made it all a little more amusing as "You killed xxxxx". I would snicker and chuckle in anticipation of the whine.
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dozigden
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At least when you cast from inside a glass house you can actually see the person youre casting at! :touch: