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Jonaldo
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stt & stun 
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kemor
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Another little "clarification" after another little "smack the CSR" session:
- Yes, this is a bug, just like First Aid being able to be used in Combat.
- No, you guys can't do anything about it. Heck, you buy the Realm Ability, you use it, not your fault if it's not really working "as intended".
- No, we will not send the "Hounds˜" after you if you use it.
- No, you guys are not cheating nor exploiting bugs.
- No, this will not be fixed in 1.54.
- No, I don't know when this will be fixed.
- Yes, we will offer our CSR, enchained and ready to be flogged, tomorrow morning, between 10am and 12am, just next to the entrance of our building. I will personally sell tickets, 20cents/lash.
- Yes, this is a bug, just like First Aid being able to be used in Combat.
- No, you guys can't do anything about it. Heck, you buy the Realm Ability, you use it, not your fault if it's not really working "as intended".
- No, we will not send the "Hounds˜" after you if you use it.
- No, you guys are not cheating nor exploiting bugs.
- No, this will not be fixed in 1.54.
- No, I don't know when this will be fixed.
- Yes, we will offer our CSR, enchained and ready to be flogged, tomorrow morning, between 10am and 12am, just next to the entrance of our building. I will personally sell tickets, 20cents/lash.
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You wouldnt be saying that if you were on the receiving end.
This bug makes ALL mid/alb pet classes unable to use their primary tool in RVR vs hibs.
Anyone that says abusing this is right, is simply condoning cheating
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Brannor McThife
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This is precious. Posted moments after Kemor did...
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fatgit
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If thats the official word, then fine.
It stinks, but thats life :/
Seems GOA cant even agree on what constitutes cheating/exploiting/farming
Kemor's basically saying, if you find a bug, you are free to use it as much as you want.
End of story.
It stinks, but thats life :/
Seems GOA cant even agree on what constitutes cheating/exploiting/farming
Kemor's basically saying, if you find a bug, you are free to use it as much as you want.
End of story.
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Jonaldo
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No, Kemor says that if you use a Realm Ability the way it has been designed then fine... even if it's not how they intended it to be, similar to FA in fights you only need to put your weapons away for a couple of seconds to use it.
It's slightly different to abusing bugs like hiding in walls or screenshot jumping or lag warping or whatever (most of which have now been resolved I think).
Also consider this, I have had Severing the Tether since RA's started and only now does it even BEGIN to almost work properly, for a long time I've had a useless ability that helped me in no way.. the fact we can maybe use it more often than we should may actually make up the lost time for it.
And.... Dear Mythic, please make it work against pulsing charm, kkthxbye
It's slightly different to abusing bugs like hiding in walls or screenshot jumping or lag warping or whatever (most of which have now been resolved I think).
Also consider this, I have had Severing the Tether since RA's started and only now does it even BEGIN to almost work properly, for a long time I've had a useless ability that helped me in no way.. the fact we can maybe use it more often than we should may actually make up the lost time for it.
And.... Dear Mythic, please make it work against pulsing charm, kkthxbye
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fatgit
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Cornell, I totally agree that RAs SHOULD work properly, a non-working one is as bad as one that has a bug like STT.
Until the last patch Wild Arcana got worse after level 2, so I can sympathise there.
As I kept saying, I have nothing against the RA working as stated, and I also agree that it should work on pulsing charm
Until the last patch Wild Arcana got worse after level 2, so I can sympathise there.
As I kept saying, I have nothing against the RA working as stated, and I also agree that it should work on pulsing charm
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Main pulsing charm users = mentalists. Minstrel charm negates too many of our abilities to be useful.
Minstrel charm negates too many of our abilities to be useful.
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Jonaldo
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Minstrels aren't supposed to be useful, you're supposed to be afk!
But that's another matter also
But that's another matter also
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Damini
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Bonna - please do not spam links in other people's threads to an unrelated site
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(to those that are confused, I've deleted the post)
Damini xx
(to those that are confused, I've deleted the post)
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If exploits were taken seriously, there wouldn't be any archers left. How many times have you been shot through a solid wall?
The real culprits are Mythic, not people using an ability given to them.
The real culprits are Mythic, not people using an ability given to them.
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Jonaldo
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was tempted to tell him to f**k off when I saw those spams appearing everywhere
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Delket
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Well i respecced out of juggernaught today, our unique RA which is a pet on a 30 min reuse timer, and he can be STT.
So basically kermor is saying screw your uniqe RA because its only useful against 1 realm.
Hell i only look at a hib now and my pet is chomping on my ass.
Im sorry but this is completely rediculous, our primary tool and unique ra is effectively useless vs hib encounters now and GOA dont give a flying [insert expletive] about it.
Lets all go hunt for exploits now and ruin the game for all classes!
So basically kermor is saying screw your uniqe RA because its only useful against 1 realm.
Hell i only look at a hib now and my pet is chomping on my ass.
Im sorry but this is completely rediculous, our primary tool and unique ra is effectively useless vs hib encounters now and GOA dont give a flying [insert expletive] about it.
Lets all go hunt for exploits now and ruin the game for all classes!
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It ain't been fixed in the US yet because it ain't that much of a problem, the chance that you will get more than 1 or 2 (3 max pets) with it is small, and I know the radius is huge but since you don't see many cabbys/sms around it ain't much of a problem. The only time people started complaining in force was when groups of chanters where getting wiped out by one mentalist on the dreds, but in normal RvR I don't see it as much of a problem. Would you buy it for 10RA's if you could only use it once every 30 mins? Pets get mezzed for most of the fight anyway.
Besides, if that is the worst bug you can find to moan about you need to look ALOT harder.......
Besides, if that is the worst bug you can find to moan about you need to look ALOT harder.......
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Delket
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dewey, the points is they ARENT spending 10 rsp to use it every 30 mins which is fine, they using it every second, which i cant live with!
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old.Iunliten
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Your RA is usefull against all but one class
My RA is usefull against SM, Cabba,Sorc, Hunter and Theurgist.
And sidenote: StT timer is 15 min when it kicks in.
And there is times when I am forced to target pets instead of players, Figure those out and it will help you a great deal. Or maybe not since I haven't seen any situation of spamming it arise except from your relic attempt yesterday maybe, if your story of getting pet turned on you 5 times or what was told is true.
My RA is usefull against SM, Cabba,Sorc, Hunter and Theurgist.
And sidenote: StT timer is 15 min when it kicks in.
And there is times when I am forced to target pets instead of players, Figure those out and it will help you a great deal. Or maybe not since I haven't seen any situation of spamming it arise except from your relic attempt yesterday maybe, if your story of getting pet turned on you 5 times or what was told is true.
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Delket
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Well 4 cabbies were present faik
I havnt spoken to Belcar but Kaitlyn, Gluttenfer and myself all noticed this, dont forget we recycle pets for power, and if every pet u cast turns on u its fairly obvious u not hiding 30 ments in there!
I havnt spoken to Belcar but Kaitlyn, Gluttenfer and myself all noticed this, dont forget we recycle pets for power, and if every pet u cast turns on u its fairly obvious u not hiding 30 ments in there!
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Jonaldo
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how many ments do you actually see or could you name in rvr?
can't name me cos I can't remember the last time I did emain style rvr as Cornell
can't name me cos I can't remember the last time I did emain style rvr as Cornell
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Delket
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problem with that is cornell, think ive seen 4 lone hibs in my time playing daoc.
So when theres 40 of u running round emain theres bout to be a ment or 2, naturally
So when theres 40 of u running round emain theres bout to be a ment or 2, naturally
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Jonaldo
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there aren't even 40 people in hib... so u must be lying here somewhere
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Aha, corny can't count!
I once got zerged by 300 hibs!!1 pwned! etc
I once got zerged by 300 hibs!!1 pwned! etc
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old.Eynar_Vega
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Join the club. Skald's unique RA is worthless against all realms. It's called "Fury of the Gods", and it's a group damage-add spell that lasts for 30 seconds and stacks on top of other damage-add effects (which it doesn't, not even with normal skald dmg add. It's on a 30 min timer and costs 14 points. Now look at clerics' unique RA "Bunker of Faith". This is 30 seconds of 50% bonus to group's melee absorption, which means your group will be able to absorb much more damage than normal. After some testing we noticed that it not only nullifies the skald RA, but does even more. Seeing the fact that it's also on a 30 min timer and costs only 10 points, you can see my point. Haven't met a single skald who has it and hasn't respecced it afterwards...
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old.xetius
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Anyway, if these things were bugs, then Mythic would fix them... as they havent fixed them, then they cant be bugs QED
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Hats off to Mr. I don't know shit of the month
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Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
Hats off to Mr. I don't know shit of the month
Except...he just summarised what Kemor stated in bullet-pointed babble.
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old.Mitsu
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So...
When you use FA while someone is beating on you.. you are abusing bug?
What is the exact point of that RA then?
Imo:
You sheathe your weapons = out of combat = FA usable.
When you use FA while someone is beating on you.. you are abusing bug?
What is the exact point of that RA then?
Imo:
You sheathe your weapons = out of combat = FA usable.
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blaien Kayy
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Have to agreee with mitz if you put your weapon away you are closing combat which means you can use first aid as you are not in combat.The person can still hit you so what is the problem?.Its not a full heal and 9 times out of 10 you will be dead before using it anyway,Yes if Ip worked everytime you pressed it it would be of concern but what people are saying here is utter shite.
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can you stealth when you put your weapons away then? i sure as hell cant
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old.Mitsu
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No... and First aid was just "adjusted" on the US servers to require the same 10 seconds of no interruptions.
But do we exploit a bug because it's "fixed" in future versions?
Because lets talk about other stuff then:
Enchanter companion need los now - exploit then.
Assassins have IP - exploit. ;/
Assassins evade too much - cheaters!
Gtaoe hitting twice - report, ban and kill plz.
And other stuff I'm sure.
But do we exploit a bug because it's "fixed" in future versions?
Because lets talk about other stuff then:
Enchanter companion need los now - exploit then.
Assassins have IP - exploit. ;/
Assassins evade too much - cheaters!
Gtaoe hitting twice - report, ban and kill plz.
And other stuff I'm sure.
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> No... and First aid was just "adjusted" on the US servers to require the same 10 seconds of no interruptions.
> But do we exploit a bug because it's "fixed" in future versions?
> Because lets talk about other stuff then:
> Enchanter companion need los now - exploit then.
> Assassins have IP - exploit. ;/
> Assassins evade too much - cheaters!
> Gtaoe hitting twice - report, ban and kill plz.
It wasn't an adjustment to FA, FA wasn't working how they wanted it to work (It was never meant to be used whilst fighting, it was for between fights. IP is for in fights, IP & FAII in same fight is getting way overhand with healing).
Assasins having IP = adjust
Assasins evade too much = adjust
Warriors having too little damageoutput = adjust
Screenshot jumping = bug fix
Runspeed (You have been in combat recently and can't have this effect!) = Working fine
FA = bug fix (You can use this erm outside of combat after a fight, and you are pretty much knowingly taking your weapons away to exploit this plus tons of people do it so it becomes a "minor" offence like using Daox. The only reason they cant actually take action is because mythics documentation is shit and a lot of people really do/did think they using it legitametely).
GTAOE hitting twice = bug fix (You have no choice if this spell hits twice or not, unless you completly dont use it)
Enchanter pets = bug fix (If you put your pet on defensive and someone hits you how exactly are you deliberatly exploiting the game mechanics? if you stick pet in tree/stupid place then you are however)
Oh and back on topic, sure you dont know how long the timer is for Severing the tether, so you are lucky in that you can use it more regularly. You can't in good conscience spam it 5 times in one fight though
> But do we exploit a bug because it's "fixed" in future versions?
> Because lets talk about other stuff then:
> Enchanter companion need los now - exploit then.
> Assassins have IP - exploit. ;/
> Assassins evade too much - cheaters!
> Gtaoe hitting twice - report, ban and kill plz.
It wasn't an adjustment to FA, FA wasn't working how they wanted it to work (It was never meant to be used whilst fighting, it was for between fights. IP is for in fights, IP & FAII in same fight is getting way overhand with healing).
Assasins having IP = adjust
Assasins evade too much = adjust
Warriors having too little damageoutput = adjust
Screenshot jumping = bug fix
Runspeed (You have been in combat recently and can't have this effect!) = Working fine
FA = bug fix (You can use this erm outside of combat after a fight, and you are pretty much knowingly taking your weapons away to exploit this plus tons of people do it so it becomes a "minor" offence like using Daox. The only reason they cant actually take action is because mythics documentation is shit and a lot of people really do/did think they using it legitametely).
GTAOE hitting twice = bug fix (You have no choice if this spell hits twice or not, unless you completly dont use it)
Enchanter pets = bug fix (If you put your pet on defensive and someone hits you how exactly are you deliberatly exploiting the game mechanics? if you stick pet in tree/stupid place then you are however)
Oh and back on topic, sure you dont know how long the timer is for Severing the tether, so you are lucky in that you can use it more regularly. You can't in good conscience spam it 5 times in one fight though