To mentalists abusing Sever The Tether bug to chain cast it

[fatgit]

Hello,

This is considered as a bug abused. Can you tell us the name of the charcter involved and as well what do you mean by well known bug?
Regards,
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European Dark Age of Camelot Customer Support

 

[old.Iunliten]

So for 10 RSP I get to buy Bug Abuse?

And watch out everyone using FA 2 and MCL in combat, Fatgit is gonna report you if you don't wait the 10 seconds as you are you supposed to...

Because it clearly states NOT USUABLE IN COMBAT at herald.

Btw fatgit, report all mentalists for not using GTAE marker to fire it too, as it states it is at herald.

If they ban me they bloody well throw me a free Realm ability respecc too, or an timer that I can hit each time I use StT so I can check when I am allowed to use it again.

Goa don't have a clue of anything though:
"and as well what do you mean by well known bug?"

They don't know what "bug" you are talking about. But they know it is bug abuse. uke:

 

[Jonaldo]

I used StT once at albs relic attempt on Sunday on a cabalist pet thing, didn't see any result as I think it was just a lag ghost and it just disappeared in front of me, saw another simulcrum a few minutes later, needed to wait about 9 minutes till I could cast again... indeed I apologise for the chaincasting of it, next time I'll wait an hour instead of the TIMER which PREVENTS it being chaincast.

I also want to complain about all the people abusing the IP bug where they use it every 30 minutes and get all their health back, and the purge bug...



I wonder if <shock!> - <horror!> there was more than one mentalist that cast StT? omg!! no way!!!!1 nerf

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Since Iuanza admitted to using it five times or so on IRC, you're way off Cornell

 

[old.Immortal]

Since they don't know, maybe its not really a bug.

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
Since Iuanza admitted to using it five times or so on IRC, you're way off Cornell

She must've missed anyones pet the first 4 times she cast it.

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Originally posted by Cornell


She must've missed anyones pet the first 4 times she cast it.

You do realise there's a bug with the timer?

 

[fatgit]

They do know, as Ive replied giving full details.
Bypassing a fixed, intentional timer, deliberately, is an obvious bug.

I have np with legitimate use of STT, in fact, it helped me check which pets do what

Im sure there would be uproar if I found a way to bypass the timer on MoC and started DD'ing without interrupt all the time

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by - Pathfinder -


You do realise there's a bug with the timer?

and the bug is?

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by fatgit
Im sure there would be uproar if I found a way to bypass the timer on MoC and started DD'ing without interrupt all the time

Not really I'd just stun you.

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Originally posted by Cornell


and the bug is?

I refuse to post bugs on an open forum for obvious reasons. It's not very hard to find information on it, however.

 

[old.Noita]

Bugs in DAoC?... Surely you mean an Unintentional Design Element?

 

[old.Iunliten]

The bug in question is not specifally targetting the pet but firing it at first thing that comes into range, in this occassion the alb wizzie going up to get a bolt off.
I want the bloody timer fixed so I can use my RA, without being called cheater

And still I have seen tons of people deliberately using FA2 and MCL while being in combat!

What about those? What is the difference?

This bug is even stated in the mentalist TL report, and tons of reports on it, still mythic doesn't fix it. But it is bug abuse using my RA?

 

[Danya]

Using FA/MCL in combat is a lot different to bypassing a 30 minute timer on an RA.

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

Have to agree with Iunliten on this one. Same goes for using FA and MCL in combat. If these spells aren't meant to be used this way, then it's up to Mythic to fix it so they can only be used the way they are intended to. Imagine that the timer of IP wouldn't be reset after using it. I wonder how many people would actually wait (and time) 30 minutes before they hit the key again.

 

[old.Iunliten]

Originally posted by Danyan
Using FA/MCL in combat is a lot different to bypassing a 30 minute timer on an RA.

No timer don't reset correctly

Exactly the same problem as FA/MCL

 

[fatgit]

Originally posted by old.Iunliten
The bug in question is not specifally targetting the pet but firing it at first thing that comes into range, in this occassion the alb wizzie going up to get a bolt off.
I want the bloody timer fixed so I can use my RA, without being called cheater

And still I have seen tons of people deliberately using FA2 and MCL while being in combat!

What about those? What is the difference?

This bug is even stated in the mentalist TL report, and tons of reports on it, still mythic doesn't fix it. But it is bug abuse using my RA?

I've never called YOU a cheater, and I have no problem with the legitimate use of the RA.
If people are abusing other RA bugs, then they need sorting too.
MCL, Ive NEVER used "in combat", its always in a break from combat, and I dont have FA however much Id like it

Using the RA is NOT bug abuse. Spamming it IS.

 

[old.Iunliten]

Originally posted by fatgit

Using the RA is NOT bug abuse. Spamming it IS.

Where is the differance between spamming and using it?

And when do I know whetever I succesfully turned a pet or not?

 

[old.Mitsu]

How can you say using FA in combat is a bug?

If you want informations for EU daoc.. dont look at the Herald.

In some of the coming patches FA will not be usable in combat.
But for now, it's a working feature.

 

[Euthanasia.]

Originally posted by Danyan
Using FA/MCL in combat is a lot different to bypassing a 30 minute timer on an RA.

utter bollocks.
"steal a penny steal a pound"
it's exactly the same thing , you can't have a go at some for using a bug and not others.
doesn't make a difference that some of the bugs are better for the players then others it's all cheating.

 

[Gabrial]

Originally posted by Euthanasia.

utter bollocks.
"steal a penny steal a pound"
it's exactly the same thing , you can't have a go at some for using a bug and not others.
doesn't make a difference that some of the bugs are better for the players then others it's all cheating.

Techincally it is different: 1 is based on current game situation (i.e. in combat or not) and one is based on duration since last use.

However, both are 'cheats'. Can anyone tell me if the SHIFT+I description for FA or MCL actually says not usuable in combat?

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by old.Iunliten
And when do I know whetever I succesfully turned a pet or not?

Because you can't use it for another 15 minutes... hence 'you must wait another xxx before using this ability again' or whatever it says.

 

[Danya]

Is FA/MCL in combat a bug though, or just something that was nerfed to change game balance? AFAIK Mythic just said "not working as intended", but they said the same about assassins with IP, does that mean any assassin using IP is abusing a bug? Having said that, is the way STT works a bug? Maybe it's meant to work that way.

 

[Euthanasia.]

<slaps Danyan>
hush.

 

[Jonaldo]

The bug mentioned is apparently if you don't target a pet but an enemy person, although every time I turn a pet I can't cast it for 15 minutes again, maybe I'm just bugged.

Mythic were just stupid with FA, saying you can't be in combat when you cast it but only needing people to not have their weapons out to 'not be in combat' is how people have used this FA bug issue, although just about everyone has used it just thinking it was a feature that if they put their weapons away for 2 seconds they can use First Aid.

Also the only pets I manage to (maybe) sever yesterday were cabalist pets inside the keep.... so to all people who have regularly complained about enchanter pets running through walls/doors I don't think theres much to be said anymore.

 

[Danya]

The issue with chanter pets is they don't need to run through the door, they just chain nuke you from outside. But that's getting off the topic.

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by Danyan
The issue with chanter pets is they don't need to run through the door, they just chain nuke you from outside. But that's getting off the topic.

true, but then the whole issue of the stt bug is crap anyway, just another whine about nothing.

 

[Euthanasia.]

where can i go to boost my post count? boney says i've gotta get "talks too much" stamped on my forehead

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Boosting post count? What for?

<shrugs>

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Cornell
true, but then the whole issue of the stt bug is crap anyway, just another whine about nothing.

Doesn't bother me, stt doesn't work on pulse charm.