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They're in direct opposition unfortunately - unless we can resolve the massive carbon cost of wanging stuff into space (or permanent radiation cost if we use nuclear fission + ablative layers).
Absolutely trivial in global terms, barely a rounding error.
I'm still not seeing how it's profitable business any time in the short or even medium term (notwithstanding the space internet business). It's looking like very long term + government contracts. And "government contracts" = another phrase for taking taxpayers money and giving it to private citizens.
That rather depends on what they end up doing. It's massively high risk, but, if space resources (asteroid mining in particular) turn out to be doable, then the dividends are incredible and end the pollution of those industries on Earth. It's certainly worth a go and if the billionaires can fund/finance this, great.

But;
Musk and Bezos are cunts, but the engineers building these systems are doing a fine job. And Musk is right when he compares non-reusable rockets to a 747 that gets thrown away after a single flight. Just imagine how much flying would cost if you had to chuck the plane away at the end of the flight. 100 years from now going to the Moon might cost the same as going to Australia.
While Musk and Bezos lean into Robert Heinlein wish fulfilment, that's just about OK, it's when the billionaires start leaning into Ayn Rand, or think Snow Crash is a good template for society then we've got problems, or even worse the ones who think a bit of thinning the herd with an apocalypse is the way forward, Peter Theil for example.
 

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That rather depends on what they end up doing. It's massively high risk, but, if space resources (asteroid mining in particular) turn out to be doable, then the dividends are incredible and end the pollution of those industries on Earth. It's certainly worth a go and if the billionaires can fund/finance this, great.
Yeah, but then, share price question. Musk'll be dead before they can bring back metals from asteroids and get them safely down our gravity well.

So why bother with the shares? :)

While Musk and Bezos lean into Robert Heinlein wish fulfilment, that's just about OK, it's when the billionaires start leaning into Ayn Rand, or think Snow Crash is a good template for society then we've got problems, or even worse the ones who think a bit of thinning the herd with an apocalypse is the way forward, Peter Theil for example.
I think this is pretty much a given.

Even Musk & Bezos. I reckon they'd happily cull half the human race.

I mean, I would. And so would you ;)
 

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Yeah, but then, share price question. Musk'll be dead before they can bring back metals from asteroids and get them safely down our gravity well.

So why bother with the shares? :)
These bozos all think they'll still be around in 100 years; longevity or singularity, take your pick.
I think this is pretty much a given.

Even Musk & Bezos. I reckon they'd happily cull half the human race.

I mean, I would. And so would you ;)

Musk seems very keen on growing the human race as much as possible. Personally.
 

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Musk seems very keen on growing the human race as much as possible. Personally.
The right sort I guess.

If I was a mega multi billionaire I'd have thousands of kids.

And thousands of nannies to take care of them. :)
 

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I had a rule from 40. You always have to stand up when putting your socks on. One legged.

Trains one legged balance and stops you becoming the guy who sits down in a chair for a task you should be good for into your 90's ;)
 

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I had a rule from 40. You always have to stand up when putting your socks on. One legged.

Trains one legged balance and stops you becoming the guy who sits down in a chair for a task you should be good for into your 90's ;)

How do put your socks on stood up not one-legged?
 

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I had a rule from 40. You always have to stand up when putting your socks on. One legged.

Trains one legged balance and stops you becoming the guy who sits down in a chair for a task you should be good for into your 90's ;)

Is it ok, when you sit in a chair, to say "ahhhh ya bastard"?
 

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So google are going to kill their own search engine, they're going to start putting AI generated results first in search results.
 

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It is ok I have watched all the training videos several times so know what is to come and will start preparing for it.
 

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So google are going to kill their own search engine, they're going to start putting AI generated results first in search results.

Hasn't this been a thing for a while?

I don't see how this kills their search engine - if anything it's just a way more elaborate form of 'did you mean?'

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Like this?
 

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Except for Microsoft who paid them to allow tracking

Just the mobile duckduckgo browser apparently, I use the search engine + brave browser.

"That controversy was mainly about the DuckDuckGo browser apps, not the DuckDuckGo search engine itself. In 2022, a researcher found that DuckDuckGo’s mobile browser allowed some Microsoft owned tracking scripts (mainly Bing and LinkedIn trackers) on third party websites because of a search syndication agreement with Microsoft.
DuckDuckGo’s CEO confirmed it at the time and clarified that:
  • the issue affected the browser’s tracker blocking
  • it did not mean DuckDuckGo search was tracking your searches
  • search queries on DuckDuckGo were still anonymized and not tied to a profile
So:
  • DuckDuckGo search engine: still generally privacy focused, doesn’t build personal search profiles like Google or Microsoft search do.
  • DuckDuckGo browser/apps (at the time): had an exception where some Microsoft tracking scripts were not blocked.
DuckDuckGo later said they updated the agreement and improved blocking of Microsoft trackers afterward.
One important nuance though: DuckDuckGo search still relies heavily on Microsoft Bing for search results and ads, so Microsoft is involved in the backend ecosystem even if DuckDuckGo itself avoids user profiling."
 

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