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Waymo pauses robotaxis in four Texas cities and Atlanta over flooded road risk

A Waymo spokesperson said it had expanded the temporary pause "out of an abundance of caution".
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I am all for self-driving cars, I cannot wait until I don't need to own a car.

But the whole thing feels like those wanky pay per mile scooters, dumped all over the place, half arsed, no real interest in a long term solution, but makes bank.

Fuck'um.
 
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Wow, just watched SpaceX rocket number 12 (I think) launch, fucking goosebumps the size of molehills. The camera shots are incredible. Seeing the curvature of the Earth wow wow wow.
 
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$1.25 trillion dollar IPO coming up.

Space flight, including upcoming moon landings, starlink, xAI.

Anyone think it's worth a punt? If he can mine rare materials and bring 'em back to earth cheaply. But I suspect we'll all be dead by then...
 
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Can someone explain the following to me, looking at buying some kit:

The total packaged weight is roughly 39 kg
Unboxed Weight: 57.5 kg (dry) to 58.5 kg

So if I empty the box it suddenly gets heavier by 18kg? Bet it was written by fucking AI.

I might organise a resistance to fight SkyNet.....
 
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We have a butlerian jihad channel at work now

Ironically it’s full of Dune quotes posted by a bot
 
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Ormorof said:
We have a butlerian jihad channel at work now

Ironically it’s full of Dune quotes posted by a bot
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Hopefully some quality Dune quotes. My fave was something like "Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."
 
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Shout out to fleet, lunch in The Station (pub food) yesterday and an Italian (Bella Capri) today, both fantastic.
 
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PS, I had a dirty carbonara (with Njura sausage on top) wonderful
 
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Scouse said:
$1.25 trillion dollar IPO coming up.

Space flight, including upcoming moon landings, starlink, xAI.

Anyone think it's worth a punt? If he can mine rare materials and bring 'em back to earth cheaply. But I suspect we'll all be dead by then...
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A few years back I bought 29 shares in Rocketlab, they're up over 1,000% since then. I wish I'd bought more. :(

With SpaceX, I would wait until they settle. But yeah, there's basically infinite resources in space, and there's no reason not to invest in companies going after them.
 
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Tom said:
A few years back I bought 29 shares in Rocketlab, they're up over 1,000% since then. I wish I'd bought more. :(

With SpaceX, I would wait until they settle. But yeah, there's basically infinite resources in space, and there's no reason not to invest in companies going after them.
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But unless he cracks getting resources down a gravity well, or robotic manufacturing of sattelites, that's like 100 years off...
 
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Scouse said:
But unless he cracks getting resources down a gravity well, or robotic manufacturing of sattelites, that's like 100 years off...
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I know it's science fiction, but For All Mankind is pretty realistic, with the continued space race fuelling fusion power, ending oil burning, fixing the climate, making space travel routine...

These things are possible and I believe the competition between SpaceX and Blue Origin may well be the start of another space race. Except where previously it was governments pulling the strings (and the funding when Nixon came in), now it's private businesses realising the profits to be made up there.

Musk and Bezos are cunts, but the engineers building these systems are doing a fine job. And Musk is right when he compares non-reusable rockets to a 747 that gets thrown away after a single flight. Just imagine how much flying would cost if you had to chuck the plane away at the end of the flight. 100 years from now going to the Moon might cost the same as going to Australia.
 
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He? The less Elon is involved the better SpaceX seems to fare
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I mean he's not in the same league as the engineers working there, but despite his cuntish views he's clearly heavily invested in the company he founded. SpaceX seems to be doing extremely well and Starship design is proceeding at a decent pace. A fully reusable rocket more powerful than a Saturn V - that's astonishing.
 
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Tom said:
with the continued space race fuelling fusion power, ending oil burning, fixing the climate, making space travel routine...
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They're in direct opposition unfortunately - unless we can resolve the massive carbon cost of wanging stuff into space (or permanent radiation cost if we use nuclear fission + ablative layers).

I'm still not seeing how it's profitable business any time in the short or even medium term (notwithstanding the space internet business). It's looking like very long term + government contracts. And "government contracts" = another phrase for taking taxpayers money and giving it to private citizens.
 
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SpaceX's rockets use oxygen and methane, fuels that can be manufactured on the Moon and Mars. Even at full launch frequency the emissions are nothing compared to what aircraft burn. What burns off on reentry or fails is irrelevant IMO.

I'm not going to bet against a company like this, that has gone from being almost bankrupt to being valued at over a trillion dollars. And those government contracts? Previously that would have gone to other launch companies like Lockheed Martin or Boeing, chucking empty rockets into the sea or designing spacecraft like the failed Starliner. Now it's going to a company that reuses them, massively reducing the cost of getting things up there. SpaceX and Blue Origin aren't being subsidised - they're being paid to develop cheap, reliable launch systems at massive savings to the taxpayer.
 
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SpaceX and Blue Origin aren't being subsidised - they're being paid to develop cheap, reliable launch systems at massive savings to the taxpayer.
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Whilst I like the other stuff you said (and I'll have a look at it) - this is absolutely a question of optics. If you previously funded NASA and all the engineers there, and then you defund NASA and give government contracts to private companies, who hire the engineers, then whether you call it subsidy or not is kind of irrelevant.

Ultimately SpaceX will own the technology - not the public. Despite the public paying through government contracts.

Edit: Now, whether we're arguing about whether the outcomes are better... :)
 
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