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DaGaffer said:
Sorry, not our problem, and we'd only make it worse anyway based on the west's intervention track record.
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Honestly baffled this isn't the line @Scouse is taking.

Especially when its more obvious than ever this is another oil grab and fuck the populace.
 
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Actually @Gwadien, @DaGaffer, I hoped you'd both make a Second Amendment connection.

Guns'd be mighty useful for the Iranian people, who are fighting a brutal government right now, eh?
 
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Scouse said:
Actually @Gwadien, @DaGaffer, I hoped you'd both make a Second Amendment connection.

Guns'd be mighty useful for the Iranian people, who are fighting a brutal government right now, eh?
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Um the Second Amendment worked back then when guns were fucking next to useless. Let the American people rise up against their military and local police forces with access to far more deadlier weapons than some automatic guns.

Oh yeh I forgot the Second Amendment means all those citizens can just jump into their fighter planes, Apaches, MBT, access their satellites and make a proper stand.
 
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I knew that's where that'd go, but it's not how revolution works @Deebs.

Even if a military was 100% loyal to orders, rather than the family members they'd been told to massacre, people wouldn't line up, like idiots, on some sort of immovable small battlefield, where everyone can see each other.

It's a nonsense idea.

These people are largely fighting law enforcement and they can't be deployed everywhere all the time. If the public was armed not only would the massacre not be ongoing right now, the Iranian revolution would be over - and the Ayatollah likely dead (or in Russia by now).
 
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Scouse said:
Actually @Gwadien, @DaGaffer, I hoped you'd both make a Second Amendment connection.

Guns'd be mighty useful for the Iranian people, who are fighting a brutal government right now, eh?
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Oh ffs. Absolute bullshit and literally not what the Second Amendment was for. It was about having a cheap army, not "death to tyrants", but of course 2A apologists always ignore the first half of the Amendment.

And I'd also point out that Iran managed to have a revolution in 1979 without the Second Amendment.
 
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Actually baffled where the bloke who loved to chime on about war criminal Blair has gone.
 
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Actually baffled where the bloke who loved to chime on about war criminal Blair has gone.
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Last time I looked, we weren't invading Iran and I've not called for that either?

I'm talking about the ability of a people to hold their own revolution and my point being repeatedly being born out that government is the biggest danger for a people?

Please explain how the two are linked?
 
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Please explain how the two are linked?
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Happily.

Regardless of the intent of the West, the war on Iraq got rid of a massively oppressive dictator, which you should celebrate with your new approach to Iran.

However.

The reality is that it's not 'their' revolution, it's a 'revolution' orchestrated by the US, it's pretty obvious because why would they want a return to an equally (if not more so) oppressive regime from the past.

Trump wants their oil, he doesn't give a fuck about the people, he wants a US friendly regime that will send barrels of the good stuff to the US for peanuts. Which is something Scouse of old would absolutely find abhorrent.

Iran is a big mess of different cultures/ideologies etc, so finding a uniting cause to take down the current regime is largely impossible - which is what I suspect the US has been doing since the revolution - trying to find a way to unite the people behind an opposition and they settled for probably the most common one, but still deeply unpopular with a large majority of the Iranian population.

As for your 2nd amendment suggestion - absolutely not - if Iran started putting APCs on the streets of Tehran and shooting down the people, even Russia and China would raise an eyebrow, but they wouldn't care a less if the protestors were shooting back, which would possibly lead to a civil war which would mean the lives of Iranians would be even worse. - See Syria.

Also, what happened to your whole fuck Ukraine thing because Russia has nukes - why don't you fear what Iran has, which we'll probably see if America gets a-bombing or invading.

Honestly, the biggest lesson we've still not properly learned from Iraq/Afghanistan etc is that the people don't give a shit about their government, so long as they're largely left alone and they're able to provide for their families they're happy to get on with whatever. The protesting is for students who have nothing to lose and people that have a bee in their bonnet and have some dollars to back it up.
 
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Scouse said:
I'm talking about the ability of a people to hold their own revolution and my point being repeatedly being born out that government is the biggest danger for a people?
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I'll say again, they didn't need a Second Amendment last time.
 
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DaGaffer said:
I'll say again, they didn't need a Second Amendment last time.
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Erm. So?

Regardless, we've done the second amendment thing before. Webster, Jefferson, Madison and more all spoke out and linked the right to arms, the right to form militias as the "downright force" required to prevent government tyranny.

The language in the amendment isn't a carte blanche for revolution (it would be silly to write it like that). But like Webster said: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed".
 
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Happily.

Regardless of the intent of the West, the war on Iraq got rid of a massively oppressive dictator, which you should celebrate with your new approach to Iran.

However.

The reality is that it's not 'their' revolution, it's a 'revolution' orchestrated by the US, it's pretty obvious because why would they want a return to an equally (if not more so) oppressive regime from the past.

Trump wants their oil, he doesn't give a fuck about the people, he wants a US friendly regime that will send barrels of the good stuff to the US for peanuts. Which is something Scouse of old would absolutely find abhorrent.

Iran is a big mess of different cultures/ideologies etc, so finding a uniting cause to take down the current regime is largely impossible - which is what I suspect the US has been doing since the revolution - trying to find a way to unite the people behind an opposition and they settled for probably the most common one, but still deeply unpopular with a large majority of the Iranian population.

As for your 2nd amendment suggestion - absolutely not - if Iran started putting APCs on the streets of Tehran and shooting down the people, even Russia and China would raise an eyebrow, but they wouldn't care a less if the protestors were shooting back, which would possibly lead to a civil war which would mean the lives of Iranians would be even worse. - See Syria.

Also, what happened to your whole fuck Ukraine thing because Russia has nukes - why don't you fear what Iran has, which we'll probably see if America gets a-bombing or invading.

Honestly, the biggest lesson we've still not properly learned from Iraq/Afghanistan etc is that the people don't give a shit about their government, so long as they're largely left alone and they're able to provide for their families they're happy to get on with whatever. The protesting is for students who have nothing to lose and people that have a bee in their bonnet and have some dollars to back it up.
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I've so many things to say about this, but it'd take too much time. Suffice it to say, it seems that your own memory is failing you on Iraq.

As it is, Thai food incoming.
 
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My usual route home, other route is around 5 miles further, and word has it, also now flooding. I might be stuck in for a while.


...edit...and yes, that is some dickhead, hydrolocking his "commercial vehicle" 4X4.

Edit, edit, that flood water plane is about 1-2 metres away from spilling onto the M1.
 
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Should have gone on yer bike m8. I love ploughing through water on my bike :)
 
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Scouse said:
China has applied to launch 200,000 sattelites in 3600 orbits.
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I read that and the following had me in giggles

This wouldn’t be the first attempt at a land grab in space. In 2021, Rwanda filed for a constellation of 327,000 satellites with the ITU into 27 orbits. However, the filing hasn’t hampered the activity of Starlink and other operators. “People have not really changed what they’re doing,” says Farrar. “These Rwandan satellites don’t seem likely to be built in any significant quantity.”
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I'm starting to develop a little Lego addiction, started with a Fast and The Furious Nissan GTR, led to...
Parrot (gift, yet to finish)
Wall-E and his mate (yet to finish)
A few F1 cars (yet to open, any)
Pink flamingo (yet to open)
Some happy plant pot things with plants (finished!)

Nearly ordered this £260 Zelda 2 in 1 set last night.
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Actually insane idea when you think about it... people will buy this twice., I wonder how many, there are a few mental people in some of the Lego groups I seem to follow on Facebook.

I have no idea how much it cost them for a team to work out how to make both things, with the same parts, or at least with few left over parts for each build.

The parrot one I have can be 3 things...
 
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