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Teachers say yeah to snitching on 8 year olds anyway, so hardly suprising that muslims would either.

Gotta give the thought police their due. It's amazing they've managed to roll all this shit out yet still claim we're "free".
 

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We'll ignore the Orwellian "monitoring and analysis of 50,000 children's texts" because there's something more interesting.

How does it make the parents around here feel that your ten year olds, especially your girls, wanna fuck? With perhaps a preference for big dick.

It seems to me, as it has for a long time, that the laws around consent are particularly to protect our innocent young females. - that's always struck me as a little hypocritical.

I'm also sure that this isn't anything new to parents, but having the evidence so starkly obvious must give you pause for thought when you lie to yourself and go "not my little girl".

Pls to discuss?

BTW - I'm too old to be coleslaw, so don't be calling me a perv ;)
 

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We'll ignore the Orwellian "monitoring and analysis of 50,000 children's texts" because there's something more interesting.

How does it make the parents around here feel that your ten year olds, especially your girls, wanna fuck? With perhaps a preference for big dick.

It seems to me, as it has for a long time, that the laws around consent are particularly to protect our innocent young females. - that's always struck me as a little hypocritical.

I'm also sure that this isn't anything new to parents, but having the evidence so starkly obvious must give you pause for thought when you lie to yourself and go "not my little girl".

Pls to discuss?

BTW - I'm too old to be coleslaw, so don't be calling me a perv ;)

I don't think it suggests 'they wanna fuck' I think it suggests that most kids will chat shit about any subject in order to fit in with their coolest mate who knows all the terms because they usually come from a broken home.

But as for kids becoming more sexualised because of the internet and stuff? Yeah probably, but it's not as bad as people make out, just gotta make sure that parents are cool enough to chat about those subjects before their little girls end up pregnant ;)
 

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We'll ignore the Orwellian "monitoring and analysis of 50,000 children's texts" because there's something more interesting.

How does it make the parents around here feel that your ten year olds, especially your girls, wanna fuck? With perhaps a preference for big dick.

It seems to me, as it has for a long time, that the laws around consent are particularly to protect our innocent young females. - that's always struck me as a little hypocritical.

I'm also sure that this isn't anything new to parents, but having the evidence so starkly obvious must give you pause for thought when you lie to yourself and go "not my little girl".

Pls to discuss?

BTW - I'm too old to be coleslaw, so don't be calling me a perv ;)

My children dont have phones (age 7 and 9).
But yes this is quite concerning and also why I'm more inclined to give my children a "dumb" phone so they can just send a text or make a call in emergencies and not be on WhatsApp or social media etc until they are a bit older.
 

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Ate an almost healthy dinner tonight

Vegetable stir-fry with egg noodles
(Carrot, pepper, snow peas, baby sweetcorn, spring onion, red onion, water chestnuts, beansprouts, sesame seeds, chilli, low sodium soy sauce, and half a chicken breast fillet)

Bloody delicious

Got a bag of Maltesers Buttons in the fridge... Mmm
 

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But as for kids becoming more sexualised because of the internet and stuff? Yeah probably
Personally, it feels just like the 1980's to me.

Oh, and the girls weren't just "chatting shit" back then.
 

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My children dont have phones (age 7 and 9).
But yes this is quite concerning and also why I'm more inclined to give my children a "dumb" phone so they can just send a text or make a call in emergencies and not be on WhatsApp or social media etc until they are a bit older.
My nephews didnt get a phone till they went to senior school. I think thats about the right age
 

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@Scouse re girls in the 80s - where were these sexualised girls you refer to?

I was surrounded by girls in the 1980s - we discussed many issues, mainly to do with family vs career or the latest crush, but I don’t remember me or girls at my school being corse and discussing penis size - for most of us it was about fantasy and romance - there was some experimentation as there is in any single sex environment but when I look back I am overjoyed that I had that period of innocence, where at 10 I was out building dens and playing tag or British bulldog.
 

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Are you actually an Enid Blyton character.
 

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@Yoni - I suspect girls of 10 still play tic & british bulldog but absolutely my experience in the 80's girls were talking about sex, experimenting with it - and with boys, in not single-sex environments.

I don't think "sexualised" is a very helpful term. Humans are sexual beings - masturbation can start before the age of one for both sexes and is very common before the age of five. They are also social animals, so if one knows something pretty soon they all know it. You say you were glad of your innocence - I see it as parentally and societally enforced ignorance rather than innocence.

I don't see the world falling apart because kids have ways to access information that makes their parents uncomfortable. In fact, I see many positives (which we've covered on this forum numerous times before). Yes, there are pressures on kids but, frankly, there always have been and that's part of growing up. I think humans of all ages generally do better with access to more information than they do with less.
 

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My children dont have phones (age 7 and 9).
But yes this is quite concerning and also why I'm more inclined to give my children a "dumb" phone so they can just send a text or make a call in emergencies and not be on WhatsApp or social media etc until they are a bit older.

Mine won’t get phones until they’re 13; which has lead to grumbling already (8 and nearly 10) and will probably be outright warfare by the time they’re teens. My daughter uses my wife’s phone to WhatsApp her two best friends but it’s supervised, as is their PC access (Robloks and Minecraft are played in the kitchen where there’s an adult around). The only real PITA is YouTube because the kids curated version is only via app so I have to keep an eye on their PC consumption. Other social media is banned.

As for sexual stuff; kids are clearly talking and my son in particular seems to take great pleasure in dropping in the odd inappropriate hand grenade into polite conversation, but it’s abstract to them at this point, especially for boys where it’s innuendo and bullshit (it’s the boys with big brothers you have to watch out for; they’ll be the ones who first start talking about porn etc.) For girls shit gets real much faster as soon as the first early developer gets her period in Junior school (there’s always at least one). My kids already know the mechanics but I’d say “the talk” with my daughter is probably some time in the next 18 months (10-11), which doesn’t feel much different to when I was a kid.

As for experimentation; I realised most of my contemporaries who were talking about sex at school were bullshitting on an industrial scale. There were a few genuinely at it from an early age, but they were definitely the exception.
 

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@Yoni - I suspect girls of 10 still play tic & british bulldog but absolutely my experience in the 80's girls were talking about sex, experimenting with it - and with boys, in not single-sex environments.

I don't think "sexualised" is a very helpful term. Humans are sexual beings - masturbation can start before the age of one for both sexes and is very common before the age of five. They are also social animals, so if one knows something pretty soon they all know it. You say you were glad of your innocence - I see it as parentally and societally enforced ignorance rather than innocence.

I don't see the world falling apart because kids have ways to access information that makes their parents uncomfortable. In fact, I see many positives (which we've covered on this forum numerous times before). Yes, there are pressures on kids but, frankly, there always have been and that's part of growing up. I think humans of all ages generally do better with access to more information than they do with less.
Donno i never had any experience of it that early. Everything was very innocent until after we got to secondary school. Maybe it was a liverpool thing.
 

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@Yoni - I suspect girls of 10 still play tic & british bulldog but absolutely my experience in the 80's girls were talking about sex, experimenting with it - and with boys, in not single-sex environments.

I don't think "sexualised" is a very helpful term. Humans are sexual beings - masturbation can start before the age of one for both sexes and is very common before the age of five. They are also social animals, so if one knows something pretty soon they all know it. You say you were glad of your innocence - I see it as parentally and societally enforced ignorance rather than innocence.

I don't see the world falling apart because kids have ways to access information that makes their parents uncomfortable. In fact, I see many positives (which we've covered on this forum numerous times before). Yes, there are pressures on kids but, frankly, there always have been and that's part of growing up. I think humans of all ages generally do better with access to more information than they do with less.
I do not see it. When I left the convent at 16 and went to the comp the girls in my year were just experimenting with boys and vice versa ...... it was all who fingered who not who fucked who... on top of that there was a fear of Aids even amongst heterosexuals - remember the adverts and this was discussed a lot in the 6th form common room. As it happened after the first summer vacation the year seemed to have gotten over the losing virginity and aids scare hurdle and by 17 everyone was fucking like rabbits mostly responsibly (even the rugger buggers) taking lots of drugs and drinking to capacity.
 

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The posh catholic girls were by far the worst.
It was utter debauchery when you hung around with them.
 

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Not usually my first port of call when seeking a few laughs but Woody Allen is on fine natural form here

 

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You wanna see a Master at work. Check out Groucho Marx here from 1969. He once said when he died he'd like to be buried on top of Marilyn Monroe

 

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What happened to that othrr major flaw a few years back...all gone quiet on that one.
 

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I just found out that my car has been untaxed for over a month. All because I put my middle name on the V5 when I changed my address (Pretty sure I did that last time too). Despite the first and last names being the same the DVLA took it as a new registered keeper and cancelled my direct debit without notifying me. I drove past a bloody traffic car on the way home last night too. How the hell I haven't been pulled over I don't know!
 

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I just found out that my car has been untaxed for over a month. All because I put my middle name on the V5 when I changed my address (Pretty sure I did that last time too). Despite the first and last names being the same the DVLA took it as a new registered keeper and cancelled my direct debit without notifying me. I drove past a bloody traffic car on the way home last night too. How the hell I haven't been pulled over I don't know!

I thought DVLA knew automatically if you were untaxed and just sent out the fine? I thought that was the deal with the whole "no tax disc" thing these days?

I had a similar thing last week when one of my wife's friends was chatting with her at the front door and said "you do know your car insurance is out of date don't you?" (you display your insurance in Ireland), cue panicked checking of the bank account to see if we'd been paying our insurance premiums (we had), the insurance company had forgot to send the disc out and we hadn't noticed. Bloody direct debits.
 

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