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Anyone enjoy Ad Astra?
I'm 28 minutes in and bored
Should I persevere?
 

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Cool. I can free up 2GB on my phone then.

Brad Pitt's showing his age these days. Not as bad as two of his co-stars. Tommy Lee Jones and Donald Sutherland both look like they died 20 years ago and their monkey-scrotum faces are being held together by magic.
 

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I might try it tonight..... help??!!

Give it a go. But don't be surprised if you give up after making a brew and decide instead to see if you can make a flawlessly smooth polished ball out of aluminium foil.
 

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Alien written by Dan O'Bannon?

(Actually had to google that - I thought it was Alan Dean Foster - but that was actually the movie adaptation after the fact)
 

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Tommy Lee Jones and Donald Sutherland both look like they died 20 years ago and their monkey-scrotum faces are being held together by magic.

I mean it was twenty years ago that they starred in a film in which they played duffers who were deemed too old.
 

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Alien written by Dan O'Bannon?

(Actually had to google that - I thought it was Alan Dean Foster - but that was actually the movie adaptation after the fact)

It wasn't that, it was the ship, Nostromo.
 

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Context: Someone tricked her to going to Prague to accept a fake award.

That said... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, WHAT A FUCKING THICK CUNT

 

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Education for education's sake is valuable in it's own right.

Apart from being important to enrich the life of the student it enriches us all, every day.

Ask yourself this: who do you like to hang out with? People who know fuck all, or people with interest?

Education offers way more societal value than being a poop-tube churning out drones for the jobs market.
Only if not coupled with crippling debts
 

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Context: Someone tricked her to going to Prague to accept a fake award.

That said... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, WHAT A FUCKING THICK CUNT


She went there looking for some publicity and got 100X what she could have wished for.
 

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Only if not coupled with crippling debts
They're not though are they.

They're a penny in the pound payable once you earn over 25k aren't they? Hardly crippling.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer education to be funded like it was - but the money doesn't change the fact that education for education's sake is worth it.
 

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Only if not coupled with crippling debts

Yeah the whole funding thing is a joke really.

You pay back very little, and most people will never pay off all their debt, it's just big negative numbers that scare people.

The problem is that in the long run the government will end up spending way more on universities than they did prior to the £3k + Government funding.

Also its diminishing the quality of universities in the UK as most are trying to get as many bums on sears to make lots of money whilst universities like the University of Leicester are struggling because they're limited on space.
 

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They're not though are they.

They're a penny in the pound payable once you earn over 25k aren't they? Hardly crippling.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer education to be funded like it was - but the money doesn't change the fact that education for education's sake is worth it.
I'd say that's a perspective thing, given the current economic conditions even those with a above average salary will struggle to afford things that previous generations could. This is one of those things that contributes towards that. Frankly it is a tax on knowledge / education and I'd say that's crippling both to the individuals financially and to society as a whole.

Death by 1000 cuts, though maybe I should only say 100 if we're talking pennies in a pound?
 

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Yeah the whole funding thing is a joke really.

You pay back very little, and most people will never pay off all their debt, it's just big negative numbers that scare people.

The problem is that in the long run the government will end up spending way more on universities than they did prior to the £3k + Government funding.

Also its diminishing the quality of universities in the UK as most are trying to get as many bums on sears to make lots of money whilst universities like the University of Leicester are struggling because they're limited on space.

To be fair, UK universities that go after British students to get bums on seats are doing it wrong; the only way a uni can make real money is stuff the lecture theatres with foreigners; far more profitable, and its been that way since I was in uni during the last Ice Age. I’d say 50% of the freshers on my course were foreign (although the herd was thinned a lot by the end of the 1st year).
 

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Open University degree used to be 1400 a year..its now 5000.

The exact description of nothing but a money grab...a huge chunk of present graduates come out with a half arsed level of knowledge of a very specific subject.
The wifes co worker has an english degree and I was asking her basic questions about grammar and she knew less than ME!
The daughters got a first in business studies...yes I know.
It plays no part in her life...she never mentions it or has it spark the slightest opinion on any remotely connected subject.
I would say having a degree in something for a lot of people means they never want to hear a fucking word about that shit ever again.
 

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I was asking her basic questions about grammar and she knew less than ME!
Lets be honest here @Job. The conversation went like this:

Wife's mate: "No Job, grammar and punctuation are very important. They are critical in conveying exact meaning"
You: "No love, they're just functions of elitist snobbery to keep us down and anyway it's meaningless because AI will do all our talking in the future"
 

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Well no, I was asking her about my favourite subject..the apostrophe and she was even more clueless than me.

Though your post is mostly spot on.
 

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To be fair, UK universities that go after British students to get bums on seats are doing it wrong; the only way a uni can make real money is stuff the lecture theatres with foreigners; far more profitable, and its been that way since I was in uni during the last Ice Age. I’d say 50% of the freshers on my course were foreign (although the herd was thinned a lot by the end of the 1st year).

I dunno.

Problem is that Foreign students tend to be more demanding and rightly so.

Whereas on my course we had like 350 people x9,000. If you have say 100 of them as foreign students and perhaps half of them need lots of support then it eats away at your profits.

The problem is back in your day the government still subsidised universities and had a say in what they could do with their money, whereas now all the money they receive from students they can spend on what they want.

Which means investing it back into what gives back good profits as opposed to into good education.
 

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Well no, I was asking her about my favourite subject..the apostrophe and she was even more clueless than me.

Though your post is mostly spot on.

English degrees are usually in English Literature, not Language. I actually have an English Language A Level, which is actually quite rare (covered grammar, idiolects, international English etc.) so it wouldn’t be surprising if your wife’s friend wasn’t an expert on use of apostrophes
 

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English degree's are usually in English Literature, not Language. I actually have an English Language A Level, which is actually quite rare (covered grammar, idiolect's, international English etc.) so it wouldn’t be surprising if your wives friend wasn’t an expert on use of apostrophe's
FTFY
 

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Hmm
I never thought to ask that..she just went very quiet.
 

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