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I've eaten 3 bags of Haribo Tangfastics today.
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Share size? Seriously? Who are these people with god-like willpower who can open a bag of these and not scoff the lot?
 

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I've eaten 3 bags of Haribo Tangfastics today.
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Share size? Seriously? Who are these people with god-like willpower who can open a bag of these and not scoff the lot?
Respec'

I don't really do sweets as a general rule. I'm a crisps and meat-based snacker.

However, Tangfastics I can make an exception for. Fucking yum!
 

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Only sweet I miss on this keto thang. Got a small bag for free today with some cycling stuff from Wiggle. It'll get donated to my mate. :(
 

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What I want to know is what the bear is going to do with that unsuspecting cola bottle. The crocodile looks like he's been down the pub all day. He's bladdered. The only reason he's holding the cherry is because he thought it was a kebab.
 

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You see what you're missing @Scouse on this keto thing? Not only are you missing out on the sweet tangy addictive deliciousness of the sweets, but even the bag itself has more intruige than the Russian FSB and more realistic story lines than Eastenders.
 

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View: https://youtu.be/XXSyafI4Lz4


I've seen this being advertised on YouTube (don't have an ad blocker on phone).

Some nationalistic propaganda right there, lots of bullshit.

Whats wrong with that ?

Its styalized and dramatised. Butmost of what was said is true. If its made by poles then why wouldnt it paint a bias picture.

They went through a lot of shit with the nazis and the russians and were persecuted a lot.
 

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You see what you're missing @Scouse on this keto thing? Not only are you missing out on the sweet tangy addictive deliciousness of the sweets, but even the bag itself has more intruige than the Russian FSB and more realistic story lines than Eastenders.
True. On the plus side, I don't feel sick from eating a whole bag of them any more and my stomach thanks me for it.

Plus, my beef intake has gone up to compensate :)
 

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British IT contractors, self emplyed architects etc, to lose their ability to sell their services into Europe after Brexit.

Regardless of how the neanderthals and low-rents here will whine about who's fault it is - it still is a direct result of Brexit. Period.
Yup sure is. But only shows one side. The europeans will lose theirs in the UK so there should be more work in the UK.

It was obvious wasnt it. If we are restricting labour into our country the reverse would be true.
 

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Guessing it could probably still be done but first you would have to apply for a work VISA.
 

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Yup sure is. But only shows one side. The europeans will lose theirs in the UK so there should be more work in the UK.

It was obvious wasnt it. If we are restricting labour into our country the reverse would be true.

It’s a bit more complicated than that. EU people working in the U.K. are protected, so there won’t be new jobs, at least initially. Then U.K. people working in the EU will also be protected, but only in the EU member state they are domiciled in at the time the U.K. leaves. They won’t have the ability to go elsewhere in the EU, so if for instance, I was working in Dublin and needed to go on secondment to Amsterdam, I’ll need a work permit. So while it looks like U.K. workers’ rights are being protected, in reality employers will regard them as no different to say a Russian or an Indian, with all the additional paperwork that entails.

The simple answer of course is to get an EU passport (which I’m doing) but not everyone will be eligible
 

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Sorry, Cambridge Analytica made me vote Leave. Or was it the Russians? Or the bus? I lose track these days.

Nice getting a dig in against people who disagree with you before you've even made your point though. Awesome for changing people's minds!
 

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It’s a bit more complicated than that. EU people working in the U.K. are protected, so there won’t be new jobs, at least initially. Then U.K. people working in the EU will also be protected, but only in the EU member state they are domiciled in at the time the U.K. leaves. They won’t have the ability to go elsewhere in the EU, so if for instance, I was working in Dublin and needed to go on secondment to Amsterdam, I’ll need a work permit. So while it looks like U.K. workers’ rights are being protected, in reality employers will regard them as no different to say a Russian or an Indian, with all the additional paperwork that entails.

The simple answer of course is to get an EU passport (which I’m doing) but not everyone will be eligible
Sure so you will have to apply for permission to work like they will for us. Unless you are already there /here.

I dont see that as a problem personally cause i dont intend to work anywhere but the uk. Or if i need to i have a big organisation who i can sort it out for me.

It also means that we will be able to stipulate qualifications or need for someone to come and work in the uk going forward. Like we do for the rest of the world. Rather than just economic migration.
 

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Well bully for you @Moriath. I see IT leaving UK shores at a massive rate and my ability to work where I want curtailed. Fucking great.
 

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Well bully for you @Moriath. I see IT leaving UK shores at a massive rate and my ability to work where I want curtailed. Fucking great.
I dont think they are leaving at a massive rate. My business is just as good now as it was two years ago in the uk. And i work for a major IT company.
 

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Sure so you will have to apply for permission to work like they will for us. Unless you are already there /here.

I dont see that as a problem personally cause i dont intend to work anywhere but the uk. Or if i need to i have a big organisation who i can sort it out for me.

It also means that we will be able to stipulate qualifications or need for someone to come and work in the uk going forward. Like we do for the rest of the world. Rather than just economic migration.

Oh well, sure, so long as you're OK, everything is fine.

And the complaint here isn't about what the UK gets, its what UK citizens who engaged with Europe lose. In 2018 they can work in 28 countries, in 2019, they can work in two, whereas EU workers still in the UK can still work in 28. Fair much?
 

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Oh well, sure, so long as you're OK, everything is fine.
Yup. This @Moriath.
its what UK citizens who engaged with Europe lose. In 2018 they can work in 28 countries, in 2019, they can work in two
Yep.

So what if some people never want to leave the UK? Even if we never do we should be free to have that option.

Not any more. The "passport" feels like a little red portable prison more and more each day. It fucking sucks balls, big time.
 

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Kruskal's tree theorem states that the set of finite trees over a well-quasi-ordered set of labels is itself well-quasi-ordered under homeomorphic embedding.

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So now you know

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Yup. This @Moriath.

Yep.

So what if some people never want to leave the UK? Even if we never do we should be free to have that option.

Not any more. The "passport" feels like a little red portable prison more and more each day. It fucking sucks balls, big time.
Seriously..a prison..a passport?
One of the great enablers of trouble free travel around the world.
Thete is no difference..we werent in the shitson zone anyway.
How many brits travel to Europe on ID cards...practically non.
 

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Yes @Job. Before the invention of passports in their current form (not that long ago in historical terms) European borders were porous and people freely intermingled.

The current borderless community is an effort to recreate the past. The requirement to carry a passport is a hinderance to real freedom. As are strongly policed borders.
 

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Free to cross borders.
Fuckin hilarious, what s lovely rose tinted view.
Free to drug traffic, slave trade and invasion is the reality.
 

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Yeah, because the majority of the human race have always been drug trafficers and slave traders, not normal people going about their daily lives.

Must suck to be you - so institutionalised in prison britain that the very idea that hard borders are a relatively recent artificial invention causes your mind to implode.
 

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The drug /people traffikers and the invaders controlled the masses.
A bit like the EU is trying to do.
I just want my overlords to be thosr useless plebs in Westminster where I can keep an eye on them
 

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The drug /people traffikers and the invaders controlled the masses.
A bit like the EU is trying to do.
I just want my overlords to be thosr useless plebs in Westminster where I can keep an eye on them
You're just waffing meaningless drivel at me Job. The subject has been discussed on FH before (and you ignored the facts then because you're in love with your precious borders and your Westminster slavemasters.

The truth about migration and how we lived without passports is this.

new scientist said:
the main reason was that an individual’s nationality had little political meaning before the late 1700s. The passport as an instrument of state regulation was born of the French revolution of 1789. At first, ordinary people were issued passes to control internal movement, especially to Paris. But after the king tried to escape, and foreign aristocrats attacked the revolution, the authorities started requiring such papers for exit and entry to the country. The revolution created one of the world’s first “nation-states”, defined by the “national” identity of its people rather than its monarchs’ claims. “This novel importance of the people and their nationality made identity papers integral to creating the modern state,”

Your notions of nationality are separatist bullshit. Thinking like that makes us slaves to our political masters and pits us against other humans for demonstratively bullshit made-up reasons.
 

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Ss that article explains, ordinary people had no nationality, there was no technology to do it and the barons just treated them as movable workers, they had no power or influence.
The rich moved around with fanfare and everybody knew who they were.
Nati9nalism rides on the back of people power.
 

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