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Lamp

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We've not long had some new carpet put in a few rooms. Anyway, I decided to hoover the room where my laptop is:

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http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-htc-one

I'm still not sure about the 4mp camera on the HTC One. I'm not going to be taking a lot of low-light photos, and look at the monster's fur. The HTC is pwnd by Samsung, and I take a lot of macro shots. There's no expandable memory on the HTC....BUT I prefer the HTC. Better sound, better looking, better ergonomics, better screen.....decisions decisions.....:unsure:
 

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http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-htc-one

I'm still not sure about the 4mp camera on the HTC One. I'm not going to be taking a lot of low-light photos, and look at the monster's fur. The HTC is pwnd by Samsung, and I take a lot of macro shots. There's no expandable memory on the HTC....BUT I prefer the HTC. Better sound, better looking, better ergonomics, better screen.....decisions decisions.....:unsure:
Er there is no decision..the 6.3 inch Samsung whopper for the win
 

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Just when you thought it couldn't get any easier to get a gun in the USA - you can now effectively download them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22464360
So, if you have a $5000+ 3d printer, know how to use it and know where to find the pattern, you can make a gun that can fire about 2 rounds. And still requires metal components? So what? A skilled craftsman could make a gun from metal for less than that and it'd be better. Why not just buy one? Anyone with those things is probably able to get a gun anyway.
 

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It's more the proof of concept.

Not everyone has the knowledge and ability to work with metal. Everyone has the ability to press print and then follow simple construction instructions. What with the designs becoming freely available pretty soon...along with places like the pirate bay offering designs soon.

3D printers won't be $5000 for long and they will also get better and simpler. I would imagine simple lathes becoming more popular to make metal components to 3D printed plastic objects in future too.

Besides which, in this case the only metal part was the firing pin, something extremely simple to duplicate in your garage.
 

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So, if you have a $5000+ 3d printer, know how to use it and know where to find the pattern, you can make a gun that can fire about 2 rounds. And still requires metal components? So what? A skilled craftsman could make a gun from metal for less than that and it'd be better. Why not just buy one? Anyone with those things is probably able to get a gun anyway.

I think the point is that as the barrier to entry costs for 3D printers drop (and they will), then this, and lots of other nefarious stuff, becomes possible, (read Charles Stross' Rule 34; it'll give you a fairly realistic idea) and besides, how many skilled gunsmiths do you know? If you read up on some of the high end applications for 3D printers already underway, and then think five years ahead, you can see where this little plastic pop gun can end up. Its certainly going to be an interesting future if you're a policeman.
 

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I read rule 34, I can see how this is going. There's absolutely no way any of it can be regulated, in my view. Shit is going to get very interesting.
 

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Yeah, it gets interesting once people replace the metal parts with printed components too. They added metal intentionally to make the gun detectable by airport scanners.
 

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This was on TV when I was out there. The gun was underpowered and the guy fired it at range as he had no idea if it would take his hand off. There are also very very harsh Jail sentences being discussed for people printing guns that are not registered. So while yes you could do this it will not be worth your while when you can buy a gun so easily.
 

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Quite a lot of people generally ignore the threat of jail sentences.
 

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This was on TV when I was out there. The gun was underpowered and the guy fired it at range as he had no idea if it would take his hand off. There are also very very harsh Jail sentences being discussed for people printing guns that are not registered. So while yes you could do this it will not be worth your while when you can buy a gun so easily in America

Fixed. And its all very well talking about harsh jail sentences; how are you going to track down which printer a gun (or designer drug etc.) came from? The only way I can see there being any control over this is if there's an audit trail for the feedstock used in printing. Anything on the software side is ultimately a waste of time so you have to track the physical.
 

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Quite a lot of people generally ignore the threat of jail sentences.
Over here yes but In America life is life. So yes they might still print a gun but if they get caught with it they lose a very large chunk of their life. And for most buying a gun will be simpler. But a gun that will fire thousands of rounds legally. Or print a plastic gun that will fire two shots maybe without blowing your hand off and get a 30 year jail sentence? The choice is clear.

As others have said printing a gun is not a real problem. Printing the part that changes an M4 from semi auto to full auto will be the problem.
 

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I think I'll wait until some Yahoo makes a laser pointer that goes straight through stuff. Then I'll find the plans for a Federation Marine Pulse Rifle :)
 

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Over here yes but In America life is life. So yes they might still print a gun but if they get caught with it they lose a very large chunk of their life. And for most buying a gun will be simpler. But a gun that will fire thousands of rounds legally. Or print a plastic gun that will fire two shots maybe without blowing your hand off and get a 30 year jail sentence? The choice is clear.

As others have said printing a gun is not a real problem. Printing the part that changes an M4 from semi auto to full auto will be the problem.

Yeayuh, but the guvmint is cummin, wif theyuh blayuck heelicopters, and Ow-baw-ma, to TAYUK ARR GUYUNS! So weuns need purty plastic guyuns to faat the guvmint wif theyuh tanks 'n drones 'n thangs.
 

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I'm much more interested about the possibility of printing a car. Or home furniture. Or anything else that could be made out of the interesting materials that will happen when the tech takes off.

And the rich are absolutley shitting themselves that we'll be able to do that. Anyone could have anything. And why not? :)
 

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Lamp said:
3D printers. Today we can make a rubishy looking gun, or a few Lego bricks. In 100 years time, you'll be able to make pretty much anything inorganic. Amazon will be fucked. In 4500 years time, assuming you have a photo and a DNA sample, you'll be able to bring your old relatives back to life....with a few Intel chips rattling around upstairs for the personality & speech ofc...

Actually its happening a lot faster than that - printed skin/organs are already being experimented with.

I think its rather refreshing and could mean no more big factories - just license the plans and your local garage will print you a car...
 

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So, if you have a $5000+ 3d printer, know how to use it and know where to find the pattern, you can make a gun that can fire about 2 rounds. And still requires metal components? So what? A skilled craftsman could make a gun from metal for less than that and it'd be better. Why not just buy one? Anyone with those things is probably able to get a gun anyway.

Missing the point tho :) someone could knock them up and sell them on, people could then have unregistered firearms all over the shop.
 

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Plastics will improve and within ten years these printers will be able to knock out steel strength objects with multiple materials including conductivity...batteries..electrical components...give it twenty years and theyll be like a slow version of the replicator.
 

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