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BloodOmen

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Plastics will improve and within ten years these printers will be able to knock out steel strength objects with multiple materials including conductivity...batteries..electrical components...give it twenty years and theyll be like a slow version of the replicator.

Seems the Department of Defense has stepped in now and basically said want to download gun plans? not a chance! they're taking it quite seriously and rightly so.
 

DaGaffer

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I'm much more interested about the possibility of printing a car. Or home furniture. Or anything else that could be made out of the interesting materials that will happen when the tech takes off.

And the rich are absolutley shitting themselves that we'll be able to do that. Anyone could have anything. And why not? :)

Quite a few reasons why not actually. You wouldn't be printing out a car, you'd be printing out the parts to make a car - you'd still have to build the thing, and then you'd have to register it, and the DVLA would want to know where you got your pirated car from. And the "rich" would still make money because everybody can't make everything; 3D printing isn't alchemy, you need appropriate refined feedstocks to make the stuff you need, and the feedstock supply still requires big industry.
 

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DaGaffer said:
Quite a few reasons why not actually. You wouldn't be printing out a car, you'd be printing out the parts to make a car - you'd still have to build the thing, and then you'd have to register it, and the DVLA would want to know where you got your pirated car from. And the "rich" would still make money because everybody can't make everything; 3D printing isn't alchemy, you need appropriate refined feedstocks to make the stuff you need, and the feedstock supply still requires big industry.

Plans would be licensed - no doubt a black market of bootleg plans will exist along with open source versions.

I expect the range of feedstocks to grow rapidly - the current reliance on plastics isnt viable long term.
 

DaGaffer

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Plans would be licensed - no doubt a black market of bootleg plans will exist along with open source versions.

I expect the range of feedstocks to grow rapidly - the current reliance on plastics isnt viable long term.

I can see a lot of stuff that could and will be bootlegged, a car isn't one of them; too many existing audits and too public a possession.

As for feedstocks, there are already plenty of metallic, carbon and ceramic 3D techniques, but its going to be difficult to get the costs of those down to the consumer market level (especially the metallic stuff like sintering), because its not just the feedstock costs, its the energy costs and safety issues.
 

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i doubt the home 3D printing scene will take off in a big way anytime soon, beyond hobbyists or tech fans (like us ;) ) what i see as much more likely is the concept of "micro" manufacturing, take plumbing for instance, right now there are warehouses all over the place full of bits and pieces a plumber might need (and stock = costs), and if they are out of a part it can easily be a week or two before they can source it from the factory, so the plumber simply goes to another place and hopes they have it

imagine instead they simply have a bunch of 3D printers that make whatever parts needed in a few minutes

the same concept applies to hospitals and mechanics (especially for older models or motorcycles), Harley Davidson have already approved a dude in the US who prints out non-metallic parts (where applicable :p) and they have been using 3D printing to replace cartilage (ears, noses etc) in Canada for a year or two now and are beginning to use them for hip replacements soon

just have to consider where the added value is, is it worth spending €1000+ on a 3D printer you might only use once? makes much more sense to have a local mini factory where they can make pretty much whatever you want, fast, without having to absorb the cost of the equipment yourself
 

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It isn't that simple products have to pass a bevy of tests, batch testing and quality control, you couldn't bang out a plastic part in the shop, mainly because there are so many types of plastics with different strengths and heat properties, but it will happen as the printers become capable of altering the properties of the plastics as they print, which will make for even more exotic products.
Of course anything made in a 3D printer will be as valueless as a copied CD, everyone knows you just pressed print after downloading it off the net.
It will twist the rewards towards design and innovation from actual manufacture, which of course is the future of man's worth as all knowledge will be on the net and all building will be done by machines.
 

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Saw a cyclist jump reds at a junction earlier, then moaned at a driver for pulling out infront of him (I was standing at the junction, watched the driver look left and right, saw cyclist, saw lights were red, so pulled out, double standards or what, haha.

-initiate cyclist conversation again-
 

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Tom I choose you !


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Tom

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I'm 40 years old, I haven't a fucking clue what that is.
 

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Currently re-watching The Thick of It (such an awesome series)

Therefore, I have changed my lockscreen on my phone:

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Job

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Thinking of getting one..do you just send them 300 dollars or is there a catch?
 

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Thinking of getting one..do you just send them 300 dollars or is there a catch?
An oculus? There's a massive waiting list. It'll be autumn at the very earliest if you order today.
 

Job

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Ok np, just checking you didn't have to sign up ages ago or be an investor, they're shipping in August I think if you order now, maybe should wait till consumer version..or maybe not, there's one going for 1300 quid on ebay.
Though every time I didn't buy the latest VR helmet I was glad I did because they were crap, but the Oc looks like it's good enough to take the first dip.
 

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so do you use a keyboard and mouse or a controller when you use yours chilly?
 

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