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[soze]

Anyway. Get used to the drones - the police are going to be using them to spy on all of us as a matter of course pretty soon.

Several UK police forces want to replace Helicopters with drones too. They are far cheaper to operate and maintain and have a far greater range.

Given how many CCTV cameras there are it is not a huge leap to think that Drones are already used in "extraordinary" situations when they do not want to risk a helicopter giving away the fact they are under surveillance.

 

[Job]

There arent many drones that keep up with a high powered car and the camera/ lighting tech on a full size copter is a bit out of the reach of present technology without ending up with something not far off a full sized chopper

 

[caLLous]

You could always use one of these...

 

[Edmond]

Celebration with 26,000 teddy bears
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25197681

 

[soze]

When I think of a drone I think of one of these. 20 Hours flight makes them much better suited to spying than a helicopter.

 

[rynnor]

When I think of a drone I think of one of these. 20 Hours flight makes them much better suited to spying than a helicopter.

It's a plane though - good for battlefield surveillance but no good for urban - it cant hover.

 

[soze]

It's a plane though - good for battlefield surveillance but no good for urban - it cant hover.

Yeah I was actually just thinking that. For chasing cars and searching for people in fields they can bank round in a circle and keep the camera aimed but in a built up city they would be really shown up.

 

[rynnor]

Yeah I was actually just thinking that. For chasing cars and searching for people in fields they can bank round in a circle and keep the camera aimed but in a built up city they would be really shown up.

Put an infrared camera on it and its great for searching for lost kids/escaped wolves etc.

I think it would save a lot of taxpayers money if they replaced police helicopters with drones.

 

[Chilly]

My only remaining upgrade is to get a proper deep IR camera for my quad so I can do thermal surveys of houses for a fee. You want to check your house for heat leaks? Sure, pay me £100 and I'll turn up and send you a high def video showing you all the hot spots and you can upgrade/thicken/whatever to fix.

 

[DaGaffer]

It's a plane though - good for battlefield surveillance but no good for urban - it cant hover.

Which is why it has a rotating camera dome and sideways looking radar. Truth is Watchkeeper would be massively over-specced for normal police use (its a Thales project so its about £15m a piece, enough to run a helicopter with a pilot for about eight years, and less useful in other roles), but being fixed-wing isn't necessarily as big a problem as you think.

 

[DaGaffer]

My only remaining upgrade is to get a proper deep IR camera for my quad so I can do thermal surveys of houses for a fee. You want to check your house for heat leaks? Sure, pay me £100 and I'll turn up and send you a high def video showing you all the hot spots and you can upgrade/thicken/whatever to fix.

My brother in law has one of those (he's a qualified surveyor), impressive bit of kit; not sure he'd put one on a UAV though; it cost him a fortune.

 

[Poag]

Yeah I was actually just thinking that. For chasing cars and searching for people in fields they can bank round in a circle and keep the camera aimed but in a built up city they would be really shown up.

Would they?

With current optics it could easily circle high enough to be invisible to the naked eye and out of sound range. This would also provide it with a high angle of optical attack into streets, meaning it could circle wider and still remain able to view down into urban enviroments.


I'm sure someone with better trig skills than me can work out how high something would have to be to circle with a <5 degree deviation from the vertical?

 

[Raven]

Proper IR surveying cameras are about £9k give or take. There are cheaper ones obviously, they may work for large things like properties though...its not like you need to go into massive detail to see that a window is letting heat out.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I can actually imagine NSA etc inner mailing system being filled with "posts" like these, they're as human as we are afterall, only american

 

[old.user4556]

*smug*

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ounts-leaves-millions-unable-access-cash.html

Shitty Indian offshoring and mass redundancies of good IT people come home to roost. Again.

I can imagine the war room calls now with the incident managers -

"OK, what's the issue here?" ....

" *scratch*... *hisssssssssss* ........hulllo? ...., hullo? ..... this is Gaurav ... *hisssssssssssss* can you repeat the question? .... hullo?"

"Hi Gaurav, the bank is fucked, what's the latest?"

" *scraaaaaaaaaaatch*... hullo? actually, please advice on your question .... hullo?"

"FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

 

[Chilly]

*smug*

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ounts-leaves-millions-unable-access-cash.html

Shitty Indian offshoring and mass redundancies of good IT people come home to roost. Again.

I can imagine the war room calls now with the incident managers -

"OK, what's the issue here?" ....

" *scratch*... *hisssssssssss* ........hulllo? ...., hullo? ..... this is Gaurav ... *hisssssssssssss* can you repeat the question? .... hullo?"

"Hi Gaurav, the bank is fucked, what's the latest?"

" *scraaaaaaaaaaatch*... hullo? actually, please advice on your question .... hullo?"

"FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

I remember doing exactly this at Betfair with people in Malta, Romania, Portugal etc. Nothing beats having the ten lads who designed, build and run the system around a table with an angry CEO pacing up and down (like the good old days, sigh) to get shit done. We used to have the top boys come raging into ops screaming blue murder about the tens of thousands per minute we were shitting away during outages

 

[Raven]

Hmm sir am I am trying to be fixing your problem sir. Please be saying the question hmmm

 

[Raven]

Bacon flavour pop corn from M&S. Thought it couldn't possibly taste like crap...it does.

 

[Chilly]

Bacon flavour pop corn from M&S. Thought it couldn't possibly taste like crap...it does.

This makes me sad

 

[old.user4556]

I remember doing exactly this at Betfair with people in Malta, Romania, Portugal etc. Nothing beats having the ten lads who designed, build and run the system around a table with an angry CEO pacing up and down (like the good old days, sigh) to get shit done. We used to have the top boys come raging into ops screaming blue murder about the tens of thousands per minute we were shitting away during outages

Ahhhhh *sips red wine*, the good 'ole days of sitting beside your Oracle DBA, your Unix expert, a Webpshere admin, a team of highly skilled devs and the architects who actually designed it properly.

A distant and romantic memory for me .

 

[DaGaffer]

I remember doing exactly this at Betfair with people in Malta, Romania, Portugal etc. Nothing beats having the ten lads who designed, build and run the system around a table with an angry CEO pacing up and down (like the good old days, sigh) to get shit done. We used to have the top boys come raging into ops screaming blue murder about the tens of thousands per minute we were shitting away during outages

This is why I've always preferred in-sourcing, but its an incredibly difficult business case to make, until something goes wrong or you want something NOW. Add in that's often easier to CapEx outsourced dev than in-house and it get's even more difficult. I hate being completely reliant on external agencies.

As for RBS, they seemed to fucked in far more ways than just IT.

 

[Bigmac]

 

[soze]

Would they?

With current optics it could easily circle high enough to be invisible to the naked eye and out of sound range. This would also provide it with a high angle of optical attack into streets, meaning it could circle wider and still remain able to view down into urban enviroments.


I'm sure someone with better trig skills than me can work out how high something would have to be to circle with a <5 degree deviation from the vertical?

The only thing would be with all the little side streets, yes it could stay up high enough and fly in a circle to cover one street but how would it then deal with with someone nipping down another street. It would have to change course to get an angle on that street again.

 

[Madmaxx]

interesting trick...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3x2U4CaEs

 

[Yoni]

I out for dinner with work tonight http://jimmys.se/sodermalm/huvudmeny/.... Yum! (Mums!)

 

[Raven]

Rather amased that I can read that menu and understand it. When swedes speak it sounds like a waste disposal system but written it nearly makes sense.

 

[Poag]

The only thing would be with all the little side streets, yes it could stay up high enough and fly in a circle to cover one street but how would it then deal with with someone nipping down another street. It would have to change course to get an angle on that street again.

I was wondering about that myself. Did some trig using a calculator, it really boils down to how tight a circle the drone moves in.

Assuming its able to circle inside a 2500m radius, its going to be about 10,000m in the air. Even if you moved 200m sideways, from the drones POV you've moved less than 4 degrees to the side, so its really still fairly, directly above you.

TL;DR if you moved over a large distance the drone would have trouble, but if you moved down and alley between roads it may not lose you. Basing this off of a bit of research into the corona sats optics at 75,000m up giving res down to 1foot in the early gen units. Who knows what current keyhole sats are able to do :s

 

[Yoni]

Rather amased that I can read that menu and understand it. When swedes speak it sounds like a waste disposal system but written it nearly makes sense.

I think you mean Danish as Swedes sound like they are singing ... Not guttural at all. I like speaking Swedish especially compared with Dutch... Unless you possess a softer toned accent dutch really doesn't sound nice and in someways harder to pronounce the words,(suiker comes to mind.. Although Rådjur in Swedish is a vit of s fucker also)

 

[Aoami]

Swedish and Danish sound horrible to me. Norwegian sounds nice though, and Icelanders sound like Eastern Europeans when speaking Icelandic.

 

[BloodOmen]

I'm getting drunk, that is all.

p.s new avatar dedicated to @old.Tohtori