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[old.Tohtori]

Man Valve are such evil masterminds. They've given the greenlight to sell Black Mesa, a fanmade mod for halfylifey) which they ofcourse couldn't sell themselves, but now they get their share of the sales(30% i think) while at the same time looking like benefactors

 

[DaGaffer]

Man Valve are such evil masterminds. They've given the greenlight to sell Black Mesa, a fanmade mod for halfylifey) which they ofcourse couldn't sell themselves, but now they get their share of the sales(30% i think) while at the same time looking like benefactors

They are benefactors, sort of. They're taking 30%, because they're acting as a retailer (Steam) and taking a typical retail margin. Since the mod uses Valve IP, they could also take a licencing fee if they wanted to, but they've taken a much more sensible long view on the whole thing.

 

[Raven]

It isn't/wasn't just sold through steam, I bought my copy directly as far as I remember.

That's not to say 30% isn't a reasonable amount, it is using Valve code, level design, storyline etc after all.

 

[mooSe_]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFKx_lzF6e4

 

[rynnor]

I see the Anglicans have voted for Women Bishops.

I just don't think women can do a priests job tbh - I mean how are they going to bugger all the little boys for one thing?

 

[Raven]

Strap ons!

 

[old.Tohtori]

They are benefactors, sort of. They're taking 30%, because they're acting as a retailer (Steam) and taking a typical retail margin. Since the mod uses Valve IP, they could also take a licencing fee if they wanted to, but they've taken a much more sensible long view on the whole thing.

Yeah i know, just saying they sure do know how to maximize profit while keeping their shiny gods of gaming crown on. Not judging at all.

 

[rynnor]

Strap ons!

Do you think they will issue them with a kit or are they expected to provide their own?

 

[Madmaxx]

 

[Madmaxx]

 

[rynnor]

I see they are looking at the idea of banning HGVs in London during the rush hour to cut down on cyclist collisions.

HGVs are already limited between midnight and 7 so perhaps the answer is to allow lorries in during the night - this will mean more noise pollution for those who live on the main roads but less cyclist deaths.

The real solution is separation - I saw these great ideas for raised cycle paths above the roads - expensive to build but a proper solution and they look cool too

 

[mooSe_]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAFcEU6atk&feature=youtu.be

 

[Raven]

I see they are looking at the idea of banning HGVs in London during the rush hour to cut down on cyclist collisions.

HGVs are already limited between midnight and 7 so perhaps the answer is to allow lorries in during the night - this will mean more noise pollution for those who live on the main roads but less cyclist deaths.

The real solution is separation - I saw these great ideas for raised cycle paths above the roads - expensive to build but a proper solution and they look cool too

"They" are heading towards hubs outside of the city with smaller vehicles delivering within the city. Totally uneconomical and less eco friendly ofc but Terry Hipster won't see any more gas guzzling HGVs any more.

 

[Gwadien]

I see they are looking at the idea of banning HGVs in London during the rush hour to cut down on cyclist collisions.

HGVs are already limited between midnight and 7 so perhaps the answer is to allow lorries in during the night - this will mean more noise pollution for those who live on the main roads but less cyclist deaths.

The real solution is separation - I saw these great ideas for raised cycle paths above the roads - expensive to build but a proper solution and they look cool too

I quite the 'cycling highway' idea, would be -really- expensive but it would be good to see something in the UK pioneering something

 

[mooSe_]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhjGXCk-RVU

 

[rynnor]

"They" are heading towards hubs outside of the city with smaller vehicles delivering within the city. Totally uneconomical and less eco friendly ofc but Terry Hipster won't see any more gas guzzling HGVs any more.

I thought about this but it's unworkable when you consider that each HGV would take what 6 -10 normal vans to replace - there is no such fleet and a 600-1000% increase in commercial traffic is not a pleasant thought. HGV's are actually a pretty efficient way to transport large amounts of freight - if they weren't there wouldn't be so many of them.

 

[rynnor]

I quite the 'cycling highway' idea, would be -really- expensive but it would be good to see something in the UK pioneering something

It's great and not much in the grand scheme of things costs wise - it has to be the real solution to cycling in London.

 

[Raven]

I thought about this but it's unworkable when you consider that each HGV would take what 6 -10 normal vans to replace - there is no such fleet and a 600-1000% increase in commercial traffic is not a pleasant thought. HGV's are actually a pretty efficient way to transport large amounts of freight - if they weren't there wouldn't be so many of them.

Exactly but small shuttle vans are the future...apparently.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Moriath]

Ban bikes and motor cycles and the death rates on roads will halve. Rather than stopping car drivers breaking the speed limit in non residential roads.

 

[caLLous]

Winamp is ceasing to exist.

 

[soze]

It's great and not much in the grand scheme of things costs wise - it has to be the real solution to cycling in London.

It would mean a bike tax licence or something being introduced to fund it the money would have to come from somewhere and cyclists should be paying if it is exclusively for them.

 

[soze]

Exactly but small shuttle vans are the future...apparently.

That is based around a fleet of small electric vans. It dose not have to make sense if it is green.

There was also talk in the states about the big rigs being replaced with a series of depots where the goods are moved via bloon and a cable network to central hubs.

 

[BloodOmen]

Winamp is ceasing to exist.

havent used it for years, always used foobar because its less of a system hog

 

[DaGaffer]

It would mean a bike tax licence or something being introduced to fund it the money would have to come from somewhere and cyclists should be paying if it is exclusively for them.

It can be argued increased bike usage is a social good, so the tax burden should be shared. There's certainly no arguing that the number of cyclists has increased massively in London over the last decade (I think I read somewhere that its trebled?)

That is based around a fleet of small electric vans. It dose not have to make sense if it is green.

There was also talk in the states about the big rigs being replaced with a series of depots where the goods are moved via bloon and a cable network to central hubs.

That's already been successfully trialled on Regent Street. Its been in place for a few years now (I went to presentation about it because they're looking at part of the idea for Dublin, where big rigs are already banned from the centre of the City). Not sure how well it scales across somewhere the size of London though. Of course if the train network hadn't been successfully sidelined by the truck lobby in the first place, HGVs would be far less of a problem.

 

[rynnor]

It would mean a bike tax licence or something being introduced to fund it the money would have to come from somewhere and cyclists should be paying if it is exclusively for them.

No - it's just infrastructure improvements - general taxation should fund it. It would benefit everyone - car drivers and pedestrians included.

 

[Scouse]

Ban bikes and death rates from heart disease will leap

It would mean a bike tax licence or something being introduced to fund it the money would have to come from somewhere and cyclists should be paying if it is exclusively for them.

Disagree. If drivers want to tool about london with their heads in the sky rather than with their eyes on what's around them then it can come out of VED.

Plus - I don't recall paying a pedestrian tax for my excessive use of exclusively-pedestrian pavements.

 

[fettoken]

It's going to be Tour De France with you, compulsive biking U.K:ers.

 

[Scouse]

So basically, you guys want Tour De France through London, each and every day.

Meh. Don't care really. Don't live there. Nice to visit tho.

 

[BloodOmen]

Has anyone noticed that -The British National Party- is actually an anagram of -Inhabitants pray to Hitler- or that -The Conservatives- is an anagram of -Cretins have votes- or that -Liberal Democrats- is an anagram of -A terrible old scam-