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rynnor said:
I just took it to a logical conclusion :)

All clothing conceals stuff - by Muslim tradition (from the supporting texts that interpret and add to the Quran) women are meant to cover up once they reach puberty except in private/with their family. The main area of dispute is how much cover is required.
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Its basically chest/curves it says cover up, it also says they are seen as honorable for doing so - nowhere does it say they have to wear a bin bag to achieve this. As for the honorable things its a double edged sword because its giving off a message that woman that don't dress like them are not honorable at all.
 
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BloodOmen said:
You counter these reasons why it should be banned and I'll shut my gob
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If you can't see the self-evident answers to those questions, if you have to ask, then you're not engaging your own brain enough Blood. I suspect you already know what I'd say, however, so why ask in the first place?

And if you already know the answers, why are you discounting them out of hand?

I certainly ain't going to get into a big debate with you - last time I tried intellectual discussion you had brain-fail and accused me of going into "rant mode" rather than answering my points :)
 
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If you can't see the self-evident answers to those questions, if you have to ask, then you're not engaging your own brain enough Blood. I suspect you already know what I'd say, however, so why ask in the first place? And if you already know the answers, why are you discounting them out of hand?

I certainly ain't going to get into a big debate with you - last time I tried intellectual discussion you had brain-fail and accused me of going into "rant mode" rather than answering my points :)
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You were going into rant mode tho? and humour me :p pretend I don't know what you were going to say and say it anyway.
 
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OK then Blood. Just to humour you :)

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1. People can hide things under them - weapons, explosives, other illegal objects
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People can and already do hide things in bags, or under "normal" western attire and have been doing so since long before we were born.

BloodOmen said:
2. People can use them to hide their identity - by this I mean criminals, its done on a regular basis
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Lots of things can be done to hide their identity. Hoodies, balaclavas, false mustaches, groucho marx goggles and false jewish noses.

Turns out a lot of "terrorists" don't want to hide their identities tho eh? They just turn up, chop people's heads off and then run at plod with a meat cleaver :)

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3. It covers up physical abuse of the person wearing it, how do you know woman walking past you with a burka on arent being brutally beaten daily?
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So does makeup, western clothes etc. It's not like physical abuse is absent from the western world is it?


Your turn: Justify why peaceful, law abiding, perfectly happy and nice muslim women in loving muslim families who want to wear traditional clothing should be banned from it.

Other than you think it's fucking stupid, of course...
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Why do you defend such silly things Scouse
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Because what is "silly" is subjective. Minorities need defending from the tyranny of the majority - and it's only by taking personal responsibility for fighting against intolerant viewpoints, wherever they are found in our day-to-day life, that we will have a chance to defend against it.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
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The above is NOT just a platitude...
 
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Scouse said:
People can and already do hide things in bags, or under "normal" western attire and have been doing so since long before we were born.


Lots of things can be done to hide their identity. Hoodies, balaclavas, false mustaches, groucho marx goggles and false jewish noses.

Turns out a lot of "terrorists" don't want to hide their identities tho eh? They just turn up, chop people's heads off and then run at plod with a meat cleaver :)


So does makeup, western clothes etc. It's not like physical abuse is absent from the western world is it?
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1. Yes they can, but a Burka is so much more practical for doing so, its like comparing a t-shirt to a jumper or shorts to a pair of trousers or a short coat to a long coat

2. Bit of a difference between wearing between a fake nose, goggles, hoodie and false mustache and the below

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3. I don't remember claiming physical abuse doesn't happen anywhere else? I merely said a Burka hides it which it does (again see above picture), not even makeup covers up the worse cases of physical abuse.
 
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BloodOmen said:
Marginal stuff
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The IRA carried out bombings just fine, london was bombed just fine, suicide bombers all over the world are just fine - all without ninja suits. The burka is an inconsequential piece of fluff that's bugger all to do with security.

You also failed to address the one question I asked - so humour me please:
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Justify why peaceful, law abiding, perfectly happy and nice muslim women in loving muslim families who want to wear traditional clothing should be banned from it.
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:)
 
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The IRA carried out bombings just fine, london was bombed just fine, suicide bombers all over the world are just fine - all without ninja suits. The burka is an inconsequential piece of fluff that's bugger all to do with security.

You also failed to address the one question I asked - so humour me please:


:)
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Because its necessary. You claim all this and that about how its all been done before with normal clothing yet wearing a Burka just makes it even easier to conceal things, surely logic would say we should be making it harder for people to do such things? not easier? doesn't matter what way you spin it or what you try and compare it to, the fact of the matter is it makes hiding trivial, it hides people from CCTV etc etc.

It'll never be banned tho sadly because not only the race card comes out every time someone brings it up but Hate Clerics and Terrorist groups call for woman to become suicide bombers to protect their so called freedom.. not sure why people tiptoe around it when people try and play the race card - Islam is not a race and the sooner the government wakes up and stops treating it as such the better. You don't see people walking around every day with balaclavas on do you? no, because as soon as someone walks into a bank or post office with a balaclava on all hell would break loose by the very sight of it yet a Burka is virtually the same thing? it conceals the face more so than a balaclava.

I could go on all night giving reasons why it should be banned and I'm sure you could go on all night about how X crime was committed by X person at X place without the use of a Burka ultimately creating an endless argument. Its quite evident my opinion differs greatly from yours, if you honestly feel the Burka isn't an issue that's up to you :) I certainly cannot change your mind and you will not change mine.
 
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When is this to-and-fro going to produce tits?

To answer both of you.

If a bird wants to dress up in a star wars outfit then that's perfectly fine! If she doesn't want to dress as a jawa but is forced to by her husband/dad then that's bad mkay.

Either way, she has to show her face when asked by the man.

It's a pretty unimaginative outfit if you are planning on blowing shit up, the IRA managed to do it without it.
 
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