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[Gwadien]

Phone fucked up whilst I was writing this - Are you a vet then?

 

[Scouse]

Good on Italy.

It's getting bad when we have to look at the home of Mussolini for protection from facists.

 

[caLLous]

The 5 Stupidest Things Ever Done With Borders

 

[old.Tohtori]

Here's the Finnish one;

 

[Gwadien]

What, the border?

 

[Zarjazz]

Croydon is full of wankers - http://www.timeout.com/london/sex-and-dating/time-out-london-sex-survey-2013-on-the-map

 

[TdC]

should map the LDN Freddies on that haha

 

[Gwadien]

should map the LDN Freddies on that haha

It'll pretty much be like the masturbating one.

 

[DaGaffer]

Good on Italy.

It's getting bad when we have to look at the home of Mussolini for protection from facists.

Meh, this is also a country that jailed geologists for not predicting the severity of an earthquake, so I'm not really feeling the love for the Italian judicial system.

 

[Scouse]

Meh, this is also a country that jailed geologists for not predicting the severity of an earthquake, so I'm not really feeling the love for the Italian judicial system.

I give you that. But credit where credit is due, I say.

We're the country that isn't prosecuting people it can get it's hands on for war crimes - so maybe Italy isn't perfect - but there are some things it does that are better

 

[Gwadien]

I give you that. But credit where credit is due, I say.

We're the country that isn't prosecuting people it can get it's hands on for war crimes - so maybe Italy isn't perfect - but there are some things it does that are better

(Nicolo) insisted he knew nothing of the 2003 kidnapping...

There's the fundamental flaw, if you live in such a democratic society with mass layers of bureaucracy, is it acceptable to directly blame the guy at the top who barely has any idea about the day-to-day doings of what's going on.

How do you also know it wasn't Berlosconi(sp?) that was telling him to do it all, now he's covering his back.

IE, Do you put Rupert Murdoch in prison for the phone hackings, because he's in charge?

 

[Raven]

I would love to see Murdoch in prison, with a nice friendly cell mate called Bubba.

 

[Scouse]

is it acceptable to directly blame the guy at the top who barely has any idea about the day-to-day doings of what's going on

Absolutely. Because by taking that job at the top he has accepted responsibility for the organisation below him.

Bob Diamond had to step down as head of Barclays - along with the rest of the management team who've now had the chop. Heads of intelligence services are responsible for the criminal activites of their organisations.

Without such arrangements then there's zero incentive for the top-down enforcement of playing by the rules.

Politicians should not have diplomatic immunity IMO. It's just a nice cushy get-out clause for the men at the top who decide to act in a criminal manner.

 

[Gwadien]

Absolutely. Because by taking that job at the top he has accepted responsibility for the organisation below him.

Bob Diamond had to step down as head of Barclays - along with the rest of the management team who've now had the chop. Heads of intelligence services are responsible for the criminal activites of their organisations.

Without such arrangements then there's zero incentive for the top-down enforcement of playing by the rules.

Politicians should not have diplomatic immunity IMO. It's just a nice cushy get-out clause for the men at the top who decide to act in a criminal manner.

But if you're looking at the 'head' of a government institute, surely the mean the guy right at the top is responsible?

IE PM/President/Monarch.

 

[Scouse]

But if you're looking at the 'head' of a government institute, surely the mean the guy right at the top is responsible?

IE PM/President/Monarch.

I think George Dubya should be hung for allowing the United States to be tainted by the brush of torture. Obama should be hung for not removing the secret military tribunals as he promised to do - despite them directly contravening the US constitution.

In one simple action they've given terrorists all the justification they ever needed - and they didn't need much.

 

[sayward]

In France CEO's are liable for what goes on in the company.

 

[DaGaffer]

But if you're looking at the 'head' of a government institute, surely the mean the guy right at the top is responsible?

IE PM/President/Monarch.

No. Think it through for 10 seconds. Want to bring down the government? Or a rival company? It becomes a trivial exercise to get someone within their remit to commit a crime (people will do anything for enough money). Whilst those at the top of an organisation (public or private) have an unlimited Duty of Care in certain specific circumstances (usually health and safety related), making them personally culpable for anything anyone in their organisation does is absurd. Prove they have knowledge of wrongdoing and covered it up, fine, prove they actively instigated wrongdoing, fine, but taking full responsibility for everything would never work.

 

[DaGaffer]

In France CEO's are liable for what goes on in the company.

CEOs are liable for what goes on in the company in most countries, but its not automatic liability for anything that happens, even in France. You still have to prove direct involvement or negligence (which is an easier charge to make stick).

 

[sayward]

Yup. Not difficult. From my point of view not difficult enough.

 

[caLLous]

Dell intros color-accurate U2413, U2713H and U3014 displays (updated)

Wooo, official U3014 announcement. I don't usually get excited about monitors but I think it's time to move up from my aging 2405FPW. It's still awesome though, I imagine it will have a place as a secondary, portrait monitor next to the U3014 (depending on UK/EU pricing ofc). I wonder if that guy is still on ebay that I (and Ch3tan and a few others iirc) bought the 2405FPW from...

edit - no he's not, unless he doesn't go by ericbunny anymore.

 

[Zarjazz]

I already have 4 of those U2713H and they are looooovely

 

[old.Osy]

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[Ch3tan]

I already have 4 of those U2713H and they are looooovely

I hate you

 

[Zenith]

This guy just won life.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Helsinki local train info screen;

 

[Edmond]

Helsinki local train info screen;

So is that saying that the train is travelling at 741 kilometers per hour??

 

[CorNokZ]

So is that saying that the train is travelling at 741 kilometers per hour??

That is exactly what it says

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeap, we have some mass accelerated mothertruckers around here

 

[TdC]

is that how fast you have to go to escape Finland?

 

[Fast]

460mph Train? Giv links. That's insane.