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[Cyradix]

Seems the mother of the killer was a teacher at the school and she has been killed too...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Nothing to admit Scouse dear, i'm not disagreeing with that sentiment, simply saying i didn't comment on that vein.

I personally find this a new level of school shootings/haven't seen this kind of school shooting before where 5-10 year olds were the target. That is all.

I'm commenting on the event that happened, not brushing everything else under the carpet.

 

[Aoami]

just read something on the gun control thing... someone saying 'if it was done with a hammer, would we ban hammers as well' of course not, what a stupid fucking argument. If i saw a man with a hammer attacking a child, would i tackle him? Of course, its just a fucking hammer. Probably the same with a knife, but im not so sure about that. A gun is a different kettle of fish... it can kill you instantly and is scary. You could kill 20 people with a gun in the time you could kill 1 with a hammer.

 

[Deebs]

Give it up Deeblar. He's not going to admit anything

Hehe, my point is this and it may sound harsh:

Children killed in USA by someone with a gun, so fucking what. Get over it. Just cos it happened in a Western world doesn't make it any worse or low than what happens on a daily basis everywhere else.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I don't agree with the "so f*cking what" part, but do agree with "equal f*cks should be given" no matter the locationm and if we were talking about any other killing in any otehr country, i'd feel the same way.

 

[Deebs]

I don't agree with the "so f*cking what" part, but do agree with "equal f*cks should be given" no matter the locationm and if we were talking about any other killing in any otehr country, i'd feel the same way.

But you have never mentioned it, that is my point. You gone off on one about the slaughter of kids in Iraq or Afghanistan? If so, point me to the post and I will eat humble pie.

 

[old.Tohtori]

But you have never mentioned it, that is my point. You gone off on one about the slaughter of kids in Iraq or Afghanistan? If so, point me to the post and I will eat humble pie.

I never did because this topic wasn't about them, it was about the schoolshooting in the US. You brought the other world kids into this and at that point i said my view on that, which was that it's equally horrible.

Show me a topic on FH that is about kids being killed in other countries and i'll gladly post my opinion on that.

 

[TdC]

are you really arguing about this? srsly dudes

 

[Deebs]

I never did because this topic wasn't about them, it was about the schoolshooting in the US. You brought the other world kids into this and at that point i said my view on that, which was that it's equally horrible.

Show me a topic on FH that is about kids being killed in other countries and i'll gladly post my opinion on that.

I cannot, but there is no "new low". Kids get murdered every day around the world, by cunts and by our own governments. This slaughter in USA does not make me think "fuck" as I know it happens elsewhere and is not reported. Those that think this is major news and unheard off need to be shot or educated. This is what bugs me and our news system breeds this.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes and i agree on that, was just trying to explain that by saying new low i meant in the US school shooting genre(so to say) that i've seen, not taking away from the rest of the world.

I jsut think it's major news because kids got shot, nothing more, no location based reaction, just reaction to a bad event.

This could've been about the UK military shooting schoolkids and i'd say things in similar fashion.

Hope that clears it.

 

[megadave]

Hehe, my point is this and it may sound harsh:

Children killed in USA by someone with a gun, so fucking what. Get over it. Just cos it happened in a Western world doesn't make it any worse or low than what happens on a daily basis everywhere else.

Did you see the guy on a US tv news network who basically said? "oh well, at least it's arab kids and not american ones" fucking mental

 

[megadave]

I can't find the video

Found this while looking though

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq:" We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

 

[old.Tohtori]

Easy to say when you're not the one paying the price.

 

[Deebs]

I can't find the video

Found this while looking though

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq:" We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

Like I said, kids dying in our "area" is sacrilege and so wrong, kids dying elsewhere, fuck em, let them die.

 

[opticle]

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/14ut4p/the_sandy_hook_elementary_murders_will_be_covered/

Deebs, I don't think Toht was ever disagreeing with you. Your point is right, his is fair enough - kids being slaughtered is pretty fucking low, wherever it happens. You both agree. There's no point arguing about it.

The world is a pretty miserable place full of some pretty awful people.

 

[opticle]

When a people rise up? Yes.

Look at what's going on around the world right now.

Fair enough. As long as you know that viewpoint led to these kids' deaths whilst we wait for a theoretical revolution. When do you think the people of the US will put down their iPhones, get out of McDonalds and rise up?

 

[opticle]

Like I said, kids dying in our "area" is sacrilege and so wrong, kids dying elsewhere, fuck em, let them die.

That's the unfortunate thing about news coverage - and the horribly narrow minded, selfish and downright evil views of so many people. Particularly in places like the Republicans and the Fox Network.

 

[opticle]

Fair enough. As long as you know that viewpoint led to these kids' deaths whilst we wait for a theoretical revolution. When do you think the people of the US will put down their iPhones, get out of McDonalds and rise up?

What about grenades and bazookas ? Do you think people should have a right to own those too? They'd be pretty damn useful in a revolution.. and a tank.

Where do you draw the line ?

 

[Scouse]

Fair enough. As long as you know that viewpoint led to these kids' deaths whilst we wait for a theoretical revolution. When do you think the people of the US will put down their iPhones, get out of McDonalds and rise up?

That viewpoint certainly didn't lead to these kids deaths. Madness did.

As for the theoretical revolution - it's not the future I'm concerned about - it's the present. The gun laws were drawn up as a people's defence against a government - and drawn up by people who knew very well what a government is capable of. That makes it very hard for the US government to act, for example, like Hitler's, or Assad's, or any other repressive totalitarian regime.

However, the yanks are having a good go at it aren't they? Domestically and foreign.

I think you're focussing on the wrong things opticle. Protest their aggressive imperialistic wars across the world first. When they stop then perhaps the US government will have gone some way to proving that the guns may not be necessary any more.

I don't hold out much hope...

 

[opticle]

That viewpoint certainly didn't lead to these kids deaths. Madness did.

Madness that was given easy access to a gun.

However, the yanks are having a good go at it aren't they? Domestically and foreign.

Indeed, and the guns of the foreign / domestic aren't making a great deal of a difference.

I do see your point of view. But I don't think most Americans have a gun because of the reasons you give.

What do you think about their Open Carry laws ?
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfN7woo2xRY&feature=youtu.be&t=12s


Society / government / politics / captialism / etc. is all a joke tbqfh.

 

[Bigmac]

LittleKurriboh rocks.

 

[Gwadien]

That gun crime argument was funny, it was like Toht and Deebs were arguing, and Scouse was Deebs' little bitch, and Opticle Tohts'.

Toht; Well, blah blah blah blah
Opticle; YEAH!

Deebs; Well, blah blah blah
Scouse; Yeah!

 

[old.user4556]

If you agree with someone, you're their bitch?

 

[Fweddy]

Shooting children is wrong. They should teach that in school.

 

[Gwadien]

If you agree with someone, you're their bitch?

Noo.. It was just like how they were 'agreeing' with every post, made me laugh.

 

[Chilly]

I read this whole us shooting section of the thread with the benny hill music playing in the background. Recommended.

 

[opticle]

Noo.. It was just like how they were 'agreeing' with every post, made me laugh.

I made one post agreeing with Toht you sensationalising mofo. You read the Daily Mail, don't you ?????????? You obviously don't read the thread

AND I WAS AGREEING WITH DEEBS TOO FFS.

 

[Gwadien]

I made one post agreeing with Toht you sensationalising mofo. You read the Daily Mail, don't you ?????????? You obviously don't read the thread

AND I WAS AGREEING WITH DEEBS TOO FFS.

I meant the 'agree' rating.

I was joking

Chill out.

 

[opticle]

I meant the 'agree' rating.

I was joking

Chill out.

SO WAS I. YOU CHILL OUT FIRST.

 

[Jupitus]

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