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As for protected areas, if you can't build, you've created scarcity by default, so the prices will rise out of reach of most people anyway. And let's be honest, in the UK such protected areas are few and far between so using that as an example is whataboutery.
Yep.

I live in a protected area. Despite nobody being able to build - houses here are still cheap cheap cheap!

Come to Wales if you want to pay fuck all for your housing! :)
 

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Mr Altrincham, who almost certainly had more money than he knew what to do with and decided to buy a house that spends most of its time empty, doesn't benefit that part of Wales. He's doing it because he can. Meanwhile, people who actually live there and contribute, can't afford a house, in part because of people like Mr Altrincham. You know, the guy who complains in the article about "the rising cost of living", while sitting pretty on an empty house someone could be living in.

I'm all for what the Welsh government are proposing. If you own a residential property, live in it. Otherwise, pay some pretty mega taxes. Homes should be for people to live in - not to accumulate wealth.

I'm also very much for taxing the living hell out of landlords, they should be providing a valuable service only, not funding their retirement off the back of increased house prices.
Given your argument turns on utilisation, anyone who is single and has more than one bedroom should be more highly taxed as well then, right?
 

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Given your argument turns on utilisation, anyone who is single and has more than one bedroom should be more highly taxed as well then, right?

Are they not already? Wasn't that the whole bedroom tax bollox a decade ago?
 

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Are they not already? Wasn't that the whole bedroom tax bollox a decade ago?
It reduced housing benefit, so only affected the less well off. But I'm sure @Tom will be happy for it to extend to everyone because he believes that under utilisation needs to be resolved through taking things away from people.
 

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Private ownership of "affordable housing" to rent out to people who have no choice, drives up the cost of "affordable housing" and is part of the problem. It doesn't really matter where it is.

Obviously, it goes back to the fire sale of affordable, social housing, which in itself was no bad thing, giving people the opportunity to buy their homes, but doesn't work if that money isn't put back into social housing.
 

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Behead the bosses of housing companies and then nationalise them (the company, not their severed head.)
 

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It reduced housing benefit, so only affected the less well off. But I'm sure @Tom will be happy for it to extend to everyone because he believes that under utilisation needs to be resolved through taking things away from people.

No I don't. Fuck off.
 

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No I don't. Fuck off.
Mr Altrincham, who almost certainly had more money than he knew what to do with and decided to buy a house that spends most of its time empty, doesn't benefit that part of Wales. He's doing it because he can. Meanwhile, people who actually live there and contribute, can't afford a house, in part because of people like Mr Altrincham. You know, the guy who complains in the article about "the rising cost of living", while sitting pretty on an empty house someone could be living in.

I'm all for what the Welsh government are proposing. If you own a residential property, live in it. Otherwise, pay some pretty mega taxes. Homes should be for people to live in - not to accumulate wealth.

I'm also very much for taxing the living hell out of landlords, they should be providing a valuable service only, not funding their retirement off the back of increased house prices.
So that shouldn't apply to rooms then? Presumably because that would impact you, right?

PS: Fuck off yourself, hypocrite
 

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Why whine about houses when this sort of thing is par for the course?


It's almost like "divide and conquer" is alive and well eh? Oh. Wait.

Because personally I don't get angry when people go from being a cashier to running their own company, pay all their taxes in full and provide a hell of a lot of employment in an otherwise downtrodden area. If it wasn't for Bet 365 (and Vodafone), I dread to think what the employment situation in Stoke would be like.
 

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So that shouldn't apply to rooms then? Presumably because that would impact you, right?

PS: Fuck off yourself, hypocrite

No, it shouldn't apply to rooms. Anyone with a brain knows the difference. What a pathetic position for you to argue.
 

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I didn't even know there was a white version.

The white chocolate Twix is OK
 

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So had to put my hand down the outside drain to remove fat build up. Couldn't get far. Initial smell was bad.

Getting it done properly tomorrow by people with a better gag reflex than me. No way in hell I'm dealing with that again.
 

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No, it shouldn't apply to rooms. Anyone with a brain knows the difference. What a pathetic position for you to argue.
It's not a position, just proof you're only in support of something so long as it completely exempts you from being affected in any way. Carry on Nimby.
 

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So had to put my hand down the outside drain to remove fat build up. Couldn't get far. Initial smell was bad.

Getting it done properly tomorrow by people with a better gag reflex than me. No way in hell I'm dealing with that again.

Man with a van and a high powered jet came. Nothing was coming out so he stuck another high powered jet in the bigger outside pipe and then everything gurgled, erupted and started flowing again. Lovely smell for half 9 this morning.
 

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Israeli artists getting their work banned in Israel.


Reeb wonders if the tone of public debate is changing in Israel. “The readiness to use antisemitism as a way to attack anything that challenges nationalistic symbols is new, I think.
Lol. Welcome to how it is for the rest of the world mate.
 

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More important than Ukraine:


Don't you think one of the ways we can help with the environment is the defeat of a tyrant who is known for spreading misinformation on the climate?

Inb4 no because humans are dumb and need systemic change. Ie nothing helpful.
 

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I thought Trump had been voted out?

I will concede that Biden's no fucking angel either.

But if we're talking global risks vs local risks - absolute risks to human life etc. - it's orders of magnitude more important than Ukraine.
 

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I thought Trump had been voted out?

I will concede that Biden's no fucking angel either.

But if we're talking global risks vs local risks - absolute risks to human life etc. - it's orders of magnitude more important than Ukraine.

I'm talking about Putin.
 

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I'm talking about Putin.
I know.

Lots of people are spreading misinformation on the climate. The defeat of Putin will be largely meaningless in changing that.

We know what to do on the climate, we're simply not doing it. Misinformation or not.

And none of this changes the fact that the Amazon potentially turning into an African savannah is way more important than deaths due to run-of-the-mill human warring in Ukraine.
 

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