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[BloodOmen]

Fishing rights row: France warns that agreements with the UK are at risk

French PM Jean Castex accuses the UK of not respecting its Brexit deal commitments on fishing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Figures, moany sods.

 

[Raven]

Fishing rights row: France warns that agreements with the UK are at risk

French PM Jean Castex accuses the UK of not respecting its Brexit deal commitments on fishing.

www.bbc.co.uk

France's weekly winge about something or other.

 

[Embattle]

The ironic thing is the main IC to France is still down after that fire on the UK side so we've not been getting much from France since then, although I suspect the UK might need to consider a move to help Jersey.

 

[Raven]

Overseas workers only way to solve shortages, says Next boss

Next boss Lord Wolfson says hiring overseas workers under a visa tax scheme is the solution to shortages.

www.bbc.co.uk

Retailer in finding they have to pay a suitable wage shocker.

 

[DaGaffer]

Overseas workers only way to solve shortages, says Next boss

Next boss Lord Wolfson says hiring overseas workers under a visa tax scheme is the solution to shortages.

www.bbc.co.uk

Retailer in finding they have to pay a suitable wage shocker.

Its all absolute horseshit. Wolfson wants cheap labour but he also wants to create the illusion that the jobs he's offering are good jobs that Brits will want to do. He knows full well that these jobs are still bottom rung jobs that Brits won't do because if the wages go up, the buying power of these jobs is going to go down because inflation is coming to wipe out any gains. Immigrants will live in shitholes and save their money to send home so bottom rung jobs will work for them but not for Brits who want to live in not-shitholes and not move for seasonal work like Christmas in a warehouse (for example).

In the meantime Boris is pretending the UK is fucking Singapore and Britain is going to become a high skill, low tax economy, which is absolute bollocks because half the population can't do those high skill jobs either. There are millions of people in Britain who can't afford to do the shit jobs and aren't able to do the skilled ones, and everyone's pretending they can.

 

[Scouse]

I remember George Dubya saying after the financial crash that Capitalism is the best system we have as it allows people dignity.

Dignity.

It allows the already rich to not do anything that they deem beneath them, more like, whilst creating slave labour conditions for huge swathes of the rest of the planet.

 

[Raven]

Funny that because when arguing for an increased minimum wage before you have stated that it would not create inflation. Not only would it raise the cost of goods it would raise all wages. Why would someone accept middle management responsibility when paid the same as the cleaner?

There are plenty of people on "job seekers" give them a list of 10 places desperate for staff and tell them the free money tap gets shut off in a month, sorted.

 

[Scouse]

There are plenty of people on "job seekers" give them a list of 10 places desperate for staff and tell them the free money tap gets shut off in a month, sorted.

It's an attractive option, of course.

Nice world you live in though.

 

[Raven]

Record low in unemployment, record vacancies.

~half a million people on "job seekers" allowance, as in available to work, allegedly wanting to work.

Square hole, square peg.

Edit, there is no excuse whatsoever for being on "job seekers" allowance. And I am sorry but Stacey who left school at 16 and wants to be a singer or whatever needs to wake up and take one of those low paid menial jobs, because that is exactly what she is qualified for, it is absolutely not below her.

 

[Raven]

Edit, that being said, thanks to our exit from the EU we no longer have a source of easily exploitable foreign workers, sleeping 15 to a house, the likes of Next need to realise that and start offering the living wage, not the very lowest legal amount, because they just aren't going to fill their vacancies. Tough luck Mr Wolfson, hand in pocket time.

Edit, edit, that's all we have ever wanted, wasn't it comrade @Scouse?

 

[Raven]

 

[DaGaffer]

Record low in unemployment, record vacancies.

~half a million people on "job seekers" allowance, as in available to work, allegedly wanting to work.

Square hole, square peg.

Edit, there is no excuse whatsoever for being on "job seekers" allowance. And I am sorry but Stacey who left school at 16 and wants to be a singer or whatever needs to wake up and take one of those low paid menial jobs, because that is exactly what she is qualified for, it is absolutely not below her.

1.5% of the working UK population; its just noise in the system.

 

[SilverHood]

Record low in unemployment, record vacancies.

~half a million people on "job seekers" allowance, as in available to work, allegedly wanting to work.

Square hole, square peg.

Edit, there is no excuse whatsoever for being on "job seekers" allowance. And I am sorry but Stacey who left school at 16 and wants to be a singer or whatever needs to wake up and take one of those low paid menial jobs, because that is exactly what she is qualified for, it is absolutely not below her.

What if you live in Hull, but all the vacancies are in Woking, Guildford, Basingstoke, Southampton, Bournemouth and Poole? Can you afford to move? What if you have kids, but rely on your retired grand parents for child care? Or someone else relies on you for care? It's not always so simple. It doesn't help that the UK system is full of benefit traps too: Work a few hours, and you could lose benefits worth hundreds of pounds.

 

[Raven]

What if you live in Hull, but all the vacancies are in Woking, Guildford, Basingstoke, Southampton, Bournemouth and Poole? Can you afford to move? What if you have kids, but rely on your retired grand parents for child care? Or someone else relies on you for care? It's not always so simple. It doesn't help that the UK system is full of benefit traps too: Work a few hours, and you could lose benefits worth hundreds of pounds.

From a quick search on Indeed, there is loads of work, Amazon, Lidl, Asda, all recruiting. And their unemployment levels are falling, Fourth successive monthly drop in unemployment rate in Hull

 

[Hawkwind]

The ironic thing is the main IC to France is still down after that fire on the UK side so we've not been getting much from France since then, although I suspect the UK might need to consider a move to help Jersey.

It was a soft threat. Very typical posturing.

 

[Ormorof]

Isnt this the 3rd time France has threatened this over same issue? Is it election season for the locals or something?

 

[BloodOmen]

France won't do shit, they are getting desperate for those fishing spots though... they've started trying really hard to stop migrant dingys getting to the UK, to the point where they opened fire on one of them recently with rubber bullets injuring the migrants on board it before it could leave a French beach, why would they do that? to make us (UK) happy I would assume, so they can go "look, we did a thing!" rather than escorting them across like they have been in recent months.

I don't think the French Government will ever be happy tbh, they'll just continue being whiny cunts even if they do get their own way in the end, they'll just find something new to moan about.

 

[BloodOmen]

Overseas workers only way to solve shortages, says Next boss

Next boss Lord Wolfson says hiring overseas workers under a visa tax scheme is the solution to shortages.

www.bbc.co.uk

Retailer in finding they have to pay a suitable wage shocker.

The funny part is (perhaps not him, I dunno) some of them campaigned for Brexit now reality is setting in they've shat themselves at the stark reality that they're going to lose a lot money.

 

[Aoami]

The funny part is (perhaps not him, I dunno) some of them campaigned for Brexit now reality is setting in they've shat themselves at the stark reality that they're going to lose a lot money.

He was massively pro-brexit. Up there with the biggest supporters.

 

[BloodOmen]

He was massively pro-brexit. Up there with the biggest supporters.

then i've got no fucking sympathy for him just like I have none for that mop headed twat that owns Wetherspoons.

 

[Moriath]

View: https://twitter.com/therealstatto/status/1445786306601267201

 

[Tom]

Bear in mind that some of the people on benefits like those discussed have a range of personal problems that make them unemployable.

 

[Moriath]

Bear in mind that some of the people on benefits like those discussed have a range of personal problems that make them unemployable.

Shouldnt be On job seekers if they are not looking for work right? There are other benefits for that?

 

[Scouse]

There's 338,000 (or thereabouts) people on jobseekers across the country.

That's fuck all in the scheme of things. Don't fall into the trap of making this about the jobless.

 

[Wij]

On wages, productivity and immigration:


View: https://twitter.com/simon_schama/status/1446043517680328705

 

[Scouse]

I don't think the PM is trying to say he can solve the productivity problem by reducing immigration? That's a straw-man argument.

The productivity problem is something for business to solve. And considering they take all the rewards from productivity gains then I've zero sympathy for them.


Interesting titbit - someone (some PhD) in the states testified in front of congress a few years back. He'd totted up what the minimum wage would be in the US if the proceeds of productivity gains had gone to the workers, rather than into the pockets of shareholders from 1950>today.

It was $35 dollars / hour.

Instead, businesses keep wages low and reap (or rape) the gains for themselves.

Johnson knows this. As far as I'm concerned his "plan" is to stop immigration - take away one of the drivers of low wages (immigrants sending money home, leaving the UK - or basically, people who are willing to work for less). And let business sort their shit out if they want to continue to make money.

He knows it'll be inflationary. But then we need to be buying less shit anyway IMO...

 

[DaGaffer]

I don't think the PM is trying to say he can solve the productivity problem by reducing immigration? That's a straw-man argument.

No, he explicitly said just that. I'll see if I can find the interview, it was in something I watched on Youtube the other day.

 

[Scouse]

No, he explicitly said just that.

Wowzers.

So he believes that the foreigners are work shy fops and Brits would be better/faster/more productive at the same job.

 

[DaGaffer]

Wowzers.

So he believes that the foreigners are work shy fops and Brits would be better/faster/more productive at the same job.

He seems to believe low pay, low skill jobs shouldn't exist at all as far as I can see.

 

[Wij]

He seems to believe low pay, low skill jobs shouldn't exist at all as far as I can see.

It's amazing how he suddenly started talking about his plan to increase wages by reducing the supply of foreign drivers AFTER the shortages started becoming noticed and not before.

I seem to remember him previously saying Brexit would reduce prices rather than increasing them due to wage pressure.

It's almost as if he just plucked it out of his arse again.