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Lads... saying anything that could be perceived as negative about Islam is Islamophobia remember.
 

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You wouldn't understand the context, so it's highly unlikely you would write that.
 

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Imagine if I wrote that.

Let's get something very clear here @Job, I have no problems with criticising religion or political affiliation, no matter what it is. My line, and it should be the line of all sensible people, is criticism for what you do should never be off the table, criticism of what you are, should. The problems come when people try to muddy the waters between the two (e.g. criticism of the actions of the state of Israel is anti-semitic as a very live example).

Now, that doesn't mean I don't think your politics aren't bullshit and your opinions hateful ignorant twaddle, but except when they're being actually racist, fill your boots.
 

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In that vein, after a painful 6 months fight, the RAF finally gave in to a freedom of information request...by some racist obviously.. to reveal applicants scores by ethnic origin.
Even though the test were pattern recognition and spatial manipulation based, they still blame it on racism...which means I guess white people are descriminated against because Asians did better than us.

Cue..racist telegraph.
 

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In that vein, after a painful 6 months fight, the RAF finally gave in to a freedom of information request...by some racist obviously.. to reveal applicants scores by ethnic origin.
Even though the test were pattern recognition and spatial manipulation based, they still blame it on racism...which means I guess white people are descriminated against because Asians did better than us.

Cue..racist telegraph.

Can't read it, paywall. The headline is a statement of fact, it is not racist and it is not accusing anyone of being racist. Again, you completely fail to understand what is in front on you.

However, the very top line that is visible, 'Defence chiefs claim the tests have been proven not to be biased, and blamed the disparity on 'underlying' educational issues ' Which may well be correct...I can't read the rest of the article. I'm afraid it's highly unlikely that the reason is that black people aren't as intelligent, because that is not an actual thing in the real world, just in your tiny little mind. The reason many Asians do well in education is a cultural one, they are driven to succeed. An awful lot of them also do menial jobs too...

Still, at least you managed to link it correctly so we're making progress!
 
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I see that cock is putting his feet in it again.... When I read UNICEF would support poor children in the UK yesterday I was saddened but also overjoyed athe the issue of child poverty in the UK was being recognised.....

Rees-Mogg however does not recognise it...
 

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Job

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Heres an open link.


Its a small sample but the results are clear, I presume the same type of people from every minority would apply, though maybe this push for black numbers might well have motivated people who might have considered thenselves not up to it to apply.

Gypsys rule though it seems
Interesting that Black Africans scored lower on average than Black Caribbeans. I believe Black Africans are the highest (or one of the highest) performing ethnic group in schools, where as Black Caribbeans are the worst.
 

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Heres an open link.


Its a small sample but the results are clear, I presume the same type of people from every minority would apply, though maybe this push for black numbers might well have motivated people who might have considered thenselves not up to it to apply.

Gypsys rule though it seems

On a sample size of 53, no, the numbers aren't clear. You'd need a couple of thousand applicants to get a usable normal distribution curve. In fact the only meaningful dataset is the White British one.
 

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Yep. Just another non-story about race, yet again, from @Job.

@Job - direct question - why are you so obsessed about race and all things race?

Don't you think the cost of fat tyres or coastal erosion would be more your thang? Why race? What harm are people of ethnic minorities doing to you that warrants so much of your life spent focussed on it and not other, more pressing, subjects?
 

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Probably one of the top 5 issues for western society.
Right bang in the middle of blm, increase in racism, britain decolonising its history because of slavery and rewriting it for minorities and all you want to do is ignore it.
Which is why were are where we are.

It will go away of we ignore it and anyone who brings it up is a trouble maker.
Fiddle away.
 

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Probably one of the top 5 issues for western society.
Right bang in the middle of blm, increase in racism, britain decolonising its history because of slavery and rewriting it for minorities and all you want to do is ignore it.
Which is why were are where we are.

It will go away of we ignore it and anyone who brings it up is a trouble maker.
Fiddle away.

Article about how black people are failing more than white people in becoming pilots.

OMG THEY'RE TRYING TO ERASE US!

Seriously.
 

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Probably one of the top 5 issues for western society.
OK. Lets proceed on the basis that you're not a complete imbecile like @Raven says and have a constructive discussion?

What are the top 5 issues for western society?

You can, of course, include your particular obsession - it would be madness if you didn't - but you have to be able to say what it is about your chosen topic that makes it "top 5"...
 

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Are we talking about halal/kosher in general are we talking about the non-stunning part?

Because didn't we establish a while back that most in the UK is stunned, and after somebody (probs Job) insisting that Muslims demand their meat not to be stunned it turned out it was actually more of a Jewish thing?
 

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